I just can't imagine Ashish as Bajirao. He doesn't fit character physically. Remember Balaji portrait Abhay had shared? Bajirao would be similar looking, to put in Marathi - gora ghara 😆
Abhay, I remembered reading this entire poem almost 2 years back! Don't remember where you had post those threads.
I really hope the Kashi we got to see is not how she will be shown in PB! In house vamp against Bajirao Mastani! How poor Bajirao was driven to Mastani due to a selfish shrew of a wife!I didn't like that actor playing Kashi. Not interested in watching this Kashi's wedding with Baji.Abhay hope IF come up with Android app soon and you post lot more. 😃
Originally posted by: history_geek
Nothing of that sort is going to happen, Maddy. With the leap going to happen soon, i think they will show the wedding of the young Kashi and Bajirao. After that, we will see the adult Bajirao and Kashi Bai straight away. Mastani is no where in sight.
Hope to see an IF app too. I had mentioned that long poem on Ahilya Bai Holkar in one of my JA threads, long back, in 2014. Glad, that you still remember.
Lol I remember lot of your wonderful posts Abhay, historical and others 😆Already showed that annoying Kashi in precap. I don't like this Kashi actor and they are shaping her character very irritating. I hope it is just due to this Kashi actor and post leap adult Kashi is better in all aspects.I am not looking forward to young Baji Kashi wedding.I wish they had devoted more time to show post Shahuraje release developments, they are so interesting.What do think about post leap cast?I like Chimanaji Nasir but have doubts about new Baji.Anuja Sathe will be missed and all the wonderful child actors. Bhiu is a special favorite of mine.
Originally posted by: Marathi_Mulgi
thanks for details about kashibai
and all things links giveni had too read that they got married at 11 n 8 agesthey had shown very stubborn kashi but she was quiet n soft spokenand pampered by family and foundly called as "Laadubai"giving details found in one article
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https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/life-style/kashibai-the-first-lady/
Built on Kashibai's suggestion, Someshwar Temple stands tall. Its speciality is a tall structure called the Deepmala, upon which 256 diyas can be placed at a time. (Express photo by Arul Horizon)
Sprinkled with small houses on either side of the narrow lanes, Chaaskaman paints an idyllic village scene " a farmer working his land with his pair of bulls; a shepherd and his flock of sheep; girls at a handpump busy filling water. However, the village, which is situated 70 km away from Pune, houses a structure in the heart of the village that stands out not only because of its impressive size but also the history associated with it. This is where Kashibai, the first wife of Bajirao Peshwa I, was born and raised. While Sanjay Leela Bhansali's recent release, Bajirao Mastani, explores the lesser-known love story of the Marathi warrior, a longer look into history reveals that there was more to Kashibai, other than being a devoted wife who struggled to accept her husband's relationship with Mastani.
Kashibai's father, Mahadji Krishna Joshi, was originally from Talsure village in Ratnagiri and later shifted to Chaaskaman. The descendants of Kashibai's brother, Krushnarao Joshi, still live in this village in the 300-year-old fort-like haveli where Kashibai was born. Weather-beaten in some places, the old massive house still stands strong.
Lakshmikant Chaskar Joshi, from 11th generation descendant of Krushnarao, says that once an owner of 300 acres of land, Mahadji was a wealthy sahukar (moneylender) as well as the subedar of the Maratha empire in Kalyan, a factor which he claims, played a strong role in the alliance of Bajirao and Kashibai. They were married in 1711, when Bajirao was 11 years and Kashibai, only eight.
The haveli in Chaaskaman, built in the wada style, is spread across nearly two acres and still has the delivery room where Kashibai, fondly called Laadubai, was born. "The newborn and the mother stayed in the same room for four months to keep away from infection," says Smita Chaskar Joshi, the younger daughter-in-law of the Joshi family. Today, the delivery room is used as a store room.
Every weekend, the house and family is visited by tourists who are keen to see Bajirao's sasural. A book, Sahali Ek Divasyachya Parisaraat Punyachya, by PK Ghanekar, that acts as a travel guide for the places one can visit in and around Pune, lists the house as a tourist spot.
According to historian Pandurang Balkawade, Kashibai was quiet and soft-spoken. "Historical documents suggest that Bajirao treated her with love and respect. She was ready to accept Mastani but couldn't go against her mother-in-law Radhabai and brother-in-law Chimaji Appa. Besides, 18th century women did not have a say in important matters and Kashibai was no exception," he says.
Balkawade adds though the society of that era was male-dominated and sati-pratha was rampant, a few strong and talented women did step out of the house. "Women like Tarabai, Ahilyabai Holkar, Umabai Dabhade ruled and fought battles just like their male counterparts," he says.
Pune-based Mahendra Peshwa, the ninth descendant of Bajirao Peshwa, says, "Mostly, male members of the family were out on the battlefield. Kashibai controlled the day-to-day running of the empire, especially of Poona. And it was possible because of her social nature. After the death of Mastani, she made sure that her son, Shamsher Bahadur, got his initial weapon training at Shaniwarwada, and took care of his overall well-being."
Mahendra says that after the death of Bajirao, Kashibai immersed herself in religious activities. "When she returned from a pilgrimage to Rameshwar in July 1747, she suggested to her brother that a temple like the one in Rameshwar should be built in Chaaskamaan also. The brother instantly began the work on Laadubai's suggestion," he says. The temple was built in 1749.
Situated over a kilometre away from the haveli, the Someshwar Temple stands tall. Spread across an area of 1.5 acre, the specialty of the temple is a tall structure called the Deepmala, upon which 256 diyas can be placed at a time. "On Tripurari Poornima, the whole family visits the temple. The Deepmala and the entire temple is then lit up with diyas," says Swati Chaskar Joshi, the elder daughter-in-law.
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Lol I remember lot of your wonderful posts Abhay, historical and others 😆Already showed that annoying Kashi in precap. I don't like this Kashi actor and they are shaping her character very irritating. I hope it is just due to this Kashi actor and post leap adult Kashi is better in all aspects.I am not looking forward to young Baji Kashi wedding.I wish they had devoted more time to show post Shahuraje release developments, they are so interesting.What do think about post leap cast?I like Chimanaji Nasir but have doubts about new Baji.Anuja Sathe will be missed and all the wonderful child actors. Bhiu is a special favorite of mine.
Originally posted by: history_geek
Thanks for sharing this beautiful snippet. I remember saving 4-5 pictures of this village from where Kashi Bai belonged. Will search. The entrance door of this village is quite grand, though the place itself lies in obscurity.
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https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/life-style/kashibai-the-first-lady/
Built on Kashibai's suggestion, Someshwar Temple stands tall. Its speciality is a tall structure called the Deepmala, upon which 256 diyas can be placed at a time. (Express photo by Arul Horizon)
Sprinkled with small houses on either side of the narrow lanes, Chaaskaman paints an idyllic village scene " a farmer working his land with his pair of bulls; a shepherd and his flock of sheep; girls at a handpump busy filling water. However, the village, which is situated 70 km away from Pune, houses a structure in the heart of the village that stands out not only because of its impressive size but also the history associated with it. This is where Kashibai, the first wife of Bajirao Peshwa I, was born and raised. While Sanjay Leela Bhansali's recent release, Bajirao Mastani, explores the lesser-known love story of the Marathi warrior, a longer look into history reveals that there was more to Kashibai, other than being a devoted wife who struggled to accept her husband's relationship with Mastani.
Kashibai's father, Mahadji Krishna Joshi, was originally from Talsure village in Ratnagiri and later shifted to Chaaskaman. The descendants of Kashibai's brother, Krushnarao Joshi, still live in this village in the 300-year-old fort-like haveli where Kashibai was born. Weather-beaten in some places, the old massive house still stands strong.
Lakshmikant Chaskar Joshi, from 11th generation descendant of Krushnarao, says that once an owner of 300 acres of land, Mahadji was a wealthy sahukar (moneylender) as well as the subedar of the Maratha empire in Kalyan, a factor which he claims, played a strong role in the alliance of Bajirao and Kashibai. They were married in 1711, when Bajirao was 11 years and Kashibai, only eight.
The haveli in Chaaskaman, built in the wada style, is spread across nearly two acres and still has the delivery room where Kashibai, fondly called Laadubai, was born. "The newborn and the mother stayed in the same room for four months to keep away from infection," says Smita Chaskar Joshi, the younger daughter-in-law of the Joshi family. Today, the delivery room is used as a store room.
Every weekend, the house and family is visited by tourists who are keen to see Bajirao's sasural. A book, Sahali Ek Divasyachya Parisaraat Punyachya, by PK Ghanekar, that acts as a travel guide for the places one can visit in and around Pune, lists the house as a tourist spot.
According to historian Pandurang Balkawade, Kashibai was quiet and soft-spoken. "Historical documents suggest that Bajirao treated her with love and respect. She was ready to accept Mastani but couldn't go against her mother-in-law Radhabai and brother-in-law Chimaji Appa. Besides, 18th century women did not have a say in important matters and Kashibai was no exception," he says.
Balkawade adds though the society of that era was male-dominated and sati-pratha was rampant, a few strong and talented women did step out of the house. "Women like Tarabai, Ahilyabai Holkar, Umabai Dabhade ruled and fought battles just like their male counterparts," he says.
Pune-based Mahendra Peshwa, the ninth descendant of Bajirao Peshwa, says, "Mostly, male members of the family were out on the battlefield. Kashibai controlled the day-to-day running of the empire, especially of Poona. And it was possible because of her social nature. After the death of Mastani, she made sure that her son, Shamsher Bahadur, got his initial weapon training at Shaniwarwada, and took care of his overall well-being."
Mahendra says that after the death of Bajirao, Kashibai immersed herself in religious activities. "When she returned from a pilgrimage to Rameshwar in July 1747, she suggested to her brother that a temple like the one in Rameshwar should be built in Chaaskamaan also. The brother instantly began the work on Laadubai's suggestion," he says. The temple was built in 1749.
Situated over a kilometre away from the haveli, the Someshwar Temple stands tall. Spread across an area of 1.5 acre, the specialty of the temple is a tall structure called the Deepmala, upon which 256 diyas can be placed at a time. "On Tripurari Poornima, the whole family visits the temple. The Deepmala and the entire temple is then lit up with diyas," says Swati Chaskar Joshi, the elder daughter-in-law.
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