WE GIRLS HAVE NO SAY...WE ARE BALI KA BAKRA.....4/30/17

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And so roshini is giving adi the much needed talk...and hands over the chain to him Roshini...so you thought I'm like any uneducated village girl, why are you stumped?, and i also saw how you guys hid the chain to frame me..wasn't there anything else? is this the best you can come up with?

Adi bursts out saying..what else can i do? I was forced to marry you..I love aaliya very much..you need to leave my life..its time for you to exit..

R..I didn't want to marry you either...you only saw your story your hurt, you couldn't think anything beyond you...did you even once think what happened with me? I was also forced..but nobody asked me how i felt, what i want...they brought me and made me sit on the Mandap like a Bali ka bakra..and they married me off to you, till now they haven't even called to see if I'm ok, how am i doing...nobody cares..this is the truth for women/ girls..they just want us off their back..a burden that's how we are considered..After daddy left...mom was left alone to bring up 2 girls..and said your husband is your god and do pooja..so we blindly accepted it...when chandan died,..they asked me to marry you, and i did, i had no right to say no..nor did anybody wait for me to say yes...it was decided...in our village girls are not allowed to say a word and its all covered by gunghat...who heard our voices ? None...I saw you in khandpur, i was impressed with your work and thought ok you're from a the city, thought you will take me away from all this..i will get some respect..which i didn't here at the village, where someone will ask us what we want...why are you all quiet now...i want to study and become a independent woman...and will never let anything happen to my sister, i will save her..i only married you to get out of that place...i had some thing to look forward too.. and that's all i wanted to tell you that day...but you didn't let me speak...you told me that you love someone else..i was quiet, never shared this with anyone..you know from where i got that strength?..from your mom.. and your to be wife..who brought me here and showered her love on me, trusted me, from that i got the strength..that girl, she told me never to make men our weakness..its equal partnership in life..you have equal rights to live your life...this is what your to be wife said..and you are the son of such a mother..and you dint have the courage to tell the truth. I do know the fear of loosing a loved one..your love..so you were quiet..so was i..but today you made me say all this...i have no intention of stopping your wedding you can marry her by all means...i have no desire to live as your wife..i will remain quiet today and tomorrow..but i will not part with this mangalsutra...coz coz of this i was able to escape khandpur...if they come to know about this..they will take me back to that god forsaken place which I escaped with great difficulty...i want to do something in life, to be something, I'm happy that god made me meet your parents..hopefully they can help me, you can marry and lead a happy life, but please don't make me go there..don't send me there..you live your life..i have nothing to look forward to..dont take away this hope i have...the hope to lead a new life..

Adi looks on...apt bgm..good scene

In the morning

Miku busy in the kitchen and Roshini offers help and toshiji, amma and ishu are looking at the old jewelry... and ishu looks at the key chain and thinking of gifting it to aaliya but what will she keep in that anyways...and toshiji talks about the significance of the key chain ..it means that the responsibility of the house rests on her...so it was passed to toshiji, passed it to ishu and ishu passing it to her dil...so ishu decides to give it to aaliya, toshiji says...now is not the right time she's too young...let her settle down maybe later.. so ishu says she can also relax and go for a morning walk with the oldies..ishu has become an old lady...just then Roshini enters...and the trio are having fun pulling each other's legs..

Roshini who's seeing all this feels ..these people are so nice...its good to see them bond..in their home..there's a wall..between the relationships..

They have love and tradition..maybe thats why they have a strong bond

Roshini calls for breakfast and leaves and ishu decides to talk to her later

Adi enters for breakfast...and he has fbs of yesterdays talk..romi comes there and assures he will send her away and to calm down..adi assures him that she will not do anything..and they sit down to have breakfast..So she gives tea to both..and says she didn't make breakfast.

Raman comes there ..ishu says she wants to talk to adi and Raman signals her

Adi compliments her tea and says ginger tea is his fav...so raman says adi has realized his mistake.and ishu says its sangeeth ..and everything should go smooth.

And raman wants breakfast and ruhi pulls his legs about practice..,and self praises them...Roshini is watching all this and hopes everything goes well..

Aaliya is getting her beauty treatment and shagun is supervising, mani is busy on the phone with arrangements...Mani is getting spa treatment too...

So aaliya is pampered..

So gagan shares this info with his mom and few men about the marriage...and decides to leave to Delhi..So Roshini's mom sends few things with them...she has no idea of what's happening...

Raman is dressed dapper...in waist coast...Ishu's saree is not not ready.. ruhi enters all dressed up, and they are stunned to see her dressed up...

So adi shares everything with romi and romi is shocked to hear that Roshini is ok with adi marrying aaliya and adi confirms it an says she wants to stay in Delhi ..but romi wants her out...and adi has a lightbulb moment.. without divorcing roshini how can he marry aaliya? he is scared if it will be leaked in the press. ...Whatever maybe roshini is his wife, and if ishima comes to know ...Romi says if she's accepted then why the problem..as it was forced and illegal..And says you 2 love each other and this is the legal marriage..and convinces adi..And asks him to relax..

Adi ... whatever you say is right..but from childhood,,ishima has thought me values ..what about that?... we will not be right all the time...I don't love Roshini, but marriage was with her..so until I divorce roshni I cannot give aaliya any happiness...as this will be in my mind all the time..so that's stressing me out...and i think this i right..so the debate is going on..

Romi asks him to relax and enjoy the sangeeth

Precap

In laws meet...gagan sees aaliya dressed..and gagan and his men follow her

Roshini is tensed...i think she spotted gagan and is trying to convey this to adi..that gagan is here...and is sure gagan is upto something..

That saree looks familiar..did ishita wear this saree?

So today we got the background of Roshini.. i really felt bad for this girl..i.what i liked was instead of sitting and crying in a corner , she wants to control her life, she wants the reins in her hands and become someone..loved her determination and dream...and help her sister. She's resigned to her fate and i can see the longing in her face ...the comparison between the bhallas and iyers vs their family..wishing it was the same..the cordial nature these 2 families share...loved her lines with adi..she was bang on..

I liked adini scene.. it did prick my heart..i was thinking of real life situations for girls like Roshini..

So this explains her behavior..as why she was acting like a mute woman one minute and the next minute brave and courageous to the extent of slapping her husband, it was ishita's and aaliya's pep talk ...that made her stand up and fight for herself.

Ishra scene was shot separately

Overall good/much better...i liked it...

The actress was not bad ...much better...

Sharam Dance could be tomorrow or Tuesday...complete with backhug...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Viji,

I am yet to see the episodes and wondering whether to see it or not because the only reason I was seeing this crappy episodes was for handsome Raman and gorgeous Ishita but the picture you sent of Raman back hugging Shagun😡 he looks like a thug so even that reason is gone for me to seeing a handsome Raman in these crappy episodes so why waste my time but from your review.

I have a theory why this marriage was introduces since Roshini said clearly that she is not interested in marriage says that she might be a temporary character so I was wondering why create a sympathy track for a side character when this thought struck me

What if this track is not a sympathy track for Roshini but sympathy track for Aliya

The CV invested in AA as the next gen IshRa but viewers kept rejecting them

Shagun always had the upper hand regarding all three kids being the birth mother and both her husband present and ex give her more importance than Ishita but for Aliya Shagun was not important she was a wife of her uncle but Ishita held more significance to her so to make Shagun have the upper hand in Aliya life as well they made her adopt Aliya legally there by making Ishita insignificant in Aliya life but they did not think this through by making Shagun adopt Aliya they were not prepared for the backlash of how brother and sister can marry because essentially that is what they did to Aliya and Adi relationship they made them half-siblings

To diffuse the situation they got Adi married suddenly so now everyone is sympathizing with Aliya life how it got destroyed with the arrival of unwanted forced wedding of Adi with Roshini and more over I think they selected Roshini because she looks much older than Adi and her pronunciation of the dialogue are not good so she won't be able to connect with the viewers . They are intentionally making her meek in some places and strong in some places so that the hatred for that character grows and sympathy for Aliya is creating there by when Roshini character ends no one will have trouble of accepting AA forgetting that they are siblings now.

Do you think I make sense with my prediction


Edited by mayasun - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for review Viji
I so love this girl... The kind of woman character I like to watch on screen... hope they will not spoil this char by turning negative or ideal Bahu type... Of course she might have been one already... Still her determination to study further to live life on her terms n also to get her sister out of that he'll...
The maturity to understand situation and the other side of story ... Probably came wt what she faced in her life till now...!
Despite of from that God-forgotten village and background her way of thinking is beyond the saree prices, family politics or revenge dramas...

If n all if it is a season 2 and if not it is a little ishra story I would have loved to watch it (Ofcource if she can emote well the depth of character)...

Coming to comparison, Aliya character doesnt have this character depth as Roshini character...while life is a bed of rose s for Aliya char, there is so much to explore in Roshini character which can be inspiration to many women out there, who r suffering just like her... Isn't it lead material??( Despite of actress's capability to enact)

I don't know what do CVS have in their brains or how this will progress...I m just talking about today's revelation of this character angles...
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One more thing I wanted to tell CV
If they think they are following the western culture then let me tell them they are way wrong.

Here even in west the ex don't behave this shamelessly. Yes they have children together and they have new partners but they respect the new partners and relationship and only maintain most of the time a cordial relationship with the exes but they don't behave this shamelessly by going for

surrogacy behind their partners back

nor they go behind the exes when their partner is being disowned

nor they dance back hugging their exes in front of their new partners nor

the new partners will be happy and accept all this shit and stay in their relationship.

As far as the dance is concerned the groom dances with the mother in law and the bride dance with the father in law nor does both groom of the mother and mother of bride dance together it is a gross to new level nor do they practice marriage or live in a relationship with their siblings.🤬


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun

Hi Viji,


I am yet to see the episodes and wondering whether to see it or not because the only reason I was seeing this crappy episodes was for handsome Raman and gorgeous Ishita but the picture you sent of Raman back hugging Shagun😡 he looks like a thug so even that reason is gone for me to seeing a handsome Raman in these crappy episodes so why waste my time but from your review.

I have a theory why this marriage was introduces since Roshini said clearly that she is not interested in marriage says that she might be a temporary character so I was wondering why create a sympathy track for a side character when this thought struck me

What if this track is not a sympathy track for Roshini but sympathy track for Aliya

The CV invested in AA as the next gen IshRa but viewers kept rejecting them

Shagun always had the upper hand regarding all three kids being the birth mother and both her husband present and ex give her more importance than Ishita but for Aliya Shagun was not important she was a wife of her uncle but Ishita held more significance to her so to make Shagun have the upper hand in Aliya life as well they made her adopt Aliya legally there by making Ishita insignificant in Aliya life but they did not think this through by making Shagun adopt Aliya they were not prepared for the backlash of how brother and sister can marry because essentially that is what they did to Aliya and Adi relationship they made them half-siblings

To diffuse the situation they got Adi married suddenly so now everyone is sympathizing with Aliya life how it got destroyed with the arrival of unwanted forced wedding of Adi with Roshini and more over I think they selected Roshini because she looks much older than Adi and her pronunciation of the dialogue are not good so she won't be able to connect with the viewers . They are intentionally making her meek in some places and strong in some places so that the hatred for that character grows and sympathy for Aliya is creating there by when Roshini character ends no one will have trouble of accepting AA forgetting that they are siblings now.

Do you think I make sense with my prediction


Hi Maya
The back hug...I'm holding my peace now ..to rant later...
Anyways
Hon you made absolute sense...
Audiences hated aadiliya, no chemistry..though true, etc etc...now we all think it's rishuninsymlsthy track..on the outside yes...but the truth is ..the underlying meaning it's is aaliya sumpsthy, abd acceptance of aadiliya by the audience themselves es...clever move isn't it...else why show aadiliya with Ishra., why the juxtaposition? Now audience will no problem accepting aadiliya..as hatred for Roshini is very is very evident and pronounced ..do yeah..
And it's also shagun track..again the upper hand...
And the dance sealed it..
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Thanks for review ..agree epis was good and adi and Roshini scene was beautiful.
So today I got my ans why she didn't say single word against her marriage with adi. Well I thought Roshini loves Chandan and she easily accepted Adi as her husband.??? Ok Roshini using adi for her freedom...feels good to hear Roshini wants to become independent...loved Roshini thinking 👏 but That actress needs to improve her acting skills 🤔 anyway loved Adi too here ...Roshini ki feeling adi aache se samjh gya ❤️ correct me if I am wrng Roshini said" main aapko apana mangalsutra nhi dugi " but Adi wants divorce. To kya divorce ka matlab Mangalsutra dena nhi hai ?? 🤔

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Originally posted by: swa6

Thanks for review Viji

I so love this girl... The kind of woman character I like to watch on screen... hope they will not spoil this char by turning negative or ideal Bahu type... Of course she might have been one already... Still her determination to study further to live life on her terms n also to get her sister out of that he'll...
The maturity to understand situation and the other side of story ... Probably came wt what she faced in her life till now...!
Despite of from that God-forgotten village and background her way of thinking is beyond the saree prices, family politics or revenge dramas...

If n all if it is a season 2 and if not it is a little ishra story I would have loved to watch it (Ofcource if she can emote well the depth of character)...

Coming to comparison, Aliya character doesnt have this character depth as Roshini character...while life is a bed of rose s for Aliya char, there is so much to explore in Roshini character which can be inspiration to many women out there, who r suffering just like her... Isn't it lead material??( Despite of actress's capability to enact)

I don't know what do CVS have in their brains or how this will progress...I m just talking about today's revelation of this character angles...

hi swarna
Yes...I too like her..

@ bold...perfectly said...that's the best character a person can possess...that's because she's seen a lot In her life, her dad deserting their mom, mom doesntbwant daughters to go thru and hence groomed her from early on not to speak but accept what's served to you ..acceptance . ideology, abdvtgecrest..she's been suppressed for so long that she burst today...

@ italics...well said..Roshinis character has depth..and a strong character...if explored well...aaliya not so much...you raised a good question...sadly not...but I would love to see her growth as an selfmade independent woman...
Swarna..she wasn't bad today...she was actually perfect with subtle emotions...

Loved your comment swarna
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Originally posted by: --Royal--

Thanks for review ..agree epis was good and adi and Roshini scene was beautiful.

So today I got my ans why she didn't say single word against her marriage with adi. Well I thought Roshini loves Chandan and she easily accepted Adi as her husband.??? Ok Roshini using adi for her freedom...feels good to hear Roshini wants to become independent...loved Roshini thinking 👏 but That actress needs to improve her acting skills 🤔 anyway loved Adi too here ...Roshini ki feeling adi aache se samjh gya ❤️ correct me if I am wrng Roshini said" main aapko apana mangalsutra nhi dugi " but Adi wants divorce. To kya divorce ka matlab Mangalsutra dena nhi hai ?? 🤔

Thank you
Good question...I dont know..some women though divorced wear mangalsutra...don't know if it's for their protection in the society ...few don't...so it's upto that woman.,her individual decision...
Having said that...when there's no relationship..marriage is dissolved..why mangalsutra?...imo..

Edited by Mdwst - 8 years ago
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Even though shagun and raman are divorced and raman is married to ishita but still shagun and raman practically lived a life of a husband wife except the physical part...they even became parent for the 3rd time in this period...

We always bash and criticize ishita for befriending shagun who is her husbands ex-wife but i have to say raman is no less...he doesn't even feel ashamed to be close to his ex-wife who didn't leave any oppertunity to ruin his life...ishita has no problem and not complaining will not make raman's behaviour justifiable...i still remeber during early phase of his marriage with ishita he even stayed in the same hotel room whole night with shagun and adi...he even met shagun in hotel room to discuss about adi's accident...and not to mention the no. of picnics, dinner parties and dance with kids ke liye...

If ishita denies for surrogacy he will not listen to her and will make his own decision but if ishita says to dance with shagun or behave gently he will do that...if ishita sends him to shagun's place...he will agree to that also
No wonder raman feels lucky to have a wife like ishita...else which wife will allow her husband to have gala time with his ex-wife...i already said shagun is raman's ex-wife not ishita's, so more than ishita raman should be careful in his association with shagun...they are not setting any good example to their kids by these type of behaviour...already adi and ruhi used raman's drinking example and in future they might also will feel free to have more than one partner at the same time and may opt for live-in relationship just like their parents and might keep two partners under the same roof just like raman stayed with ishita and shagun.

And what to say about ishita😡...the weirdo lady only feels jealous seeing raman with random women but not with shagun the lady who once shared the most intimate relationship with her husband and co parented 3 kids...the only thing she left now is to make raman and shagun stay in the same room or invite shagun in their bedroom to have threes**e😡

Edited by ramishi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun

One more thing I wanted to tell CV

If they think they are following the western culture then let me tell them they are way wrong.

Here even in west the ex don't behave this shamelessly. Yes they have children together and they have new partners but they respect the new partners and relationship and only maintain most of the time a cordial relationship with the exes but they don't behave this shamelessly by going for

surrogacy behind their partners back

nor they go behind the exes when their partner is being disowned

nor they dance back hugging their exes in front of their new partners nor

the new partners will be happy and accept all this shit and stay in their relationship.

As far as the dance is concerned the groom dances with the mother in law and the bride dance with the father in law nor does both groom of the mother and mother of bride dance together it is a gross to new level nor do they practice marriage or live in a relationship with their siblings.🤬


Maya much needed post...
The general idea is westerners have no culture ...and the rest I don't want to say...but after living abroad for 23 years...in America ..I can say...they are very conservative...and have values.
Maya...there's father daughter dance, mother son dance at the wedding...but I've never seen exes dancing even in american soaps...
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