Contentious Topic

Hi fellow forum readers and active participants. I'm a silent Beyadh fan, having traveled from a few of the older forums in my interest of this show. For the most part this forum has been active and bustling but with the twist in this track featuring Maya and Ayan, as most of us have seen lines have been crossed and temperaments have flared.

For the most part I would argue that since this is a dramatization, that we not let our temperaments get the better of us BUT in the case of this show and it's messages I urge us to think past the plot line of Maya and Ayan and really delve into the meaning and message of what's being discussed.

Point blank, whether you hate Maya or love her, whether you believe the assault was staged or not, the issue at hand deals with the mishandling of a woman, physically and emotionally. Look past the plot line and underhand what was happening.

No woman, should have gone through what Maya did. This show is giving out this message loud and clear. For all her manipulations and psychotic episodes as many people have liked to point out, the stripping of ones dignity and being cornered, like an animal, and being over powered is inhumane. Point blank.

It's disheartening to see that to this day and age we still fall back on victim blaming. This is the myth that perpetuates rape culture, putting the blame on the victim and not the perpetrator. Comments such as, well why was she wearing that, or she deserved it, or she should have done xyz, all manifest into rape culture.

Take Maya out of the equation and put a fellow friend, sister, co-worker in that position. Would the first thought that comes to your head be, well why didn't you defend yourself or run away or what were you wearing? Why is it as WOMEN, as fellow sisters, we are the first ones to readily point the accusatory figure. A woman has enough of a struggle against the patriarchy. She doesn't need that from another woman.

The situation Maya was in was frightening and damaging. To be without control, to be physically over powered and threatened. So many of you had said she could have ran off, or pointed out the cameras or whatever the eff reasons you have. Stop. Right there is the victim blaming again. Being in that situation is completely different from being a bystander to it. It's so easy to say well you could have done this, or that, when you're not in this situation. The body and mind shutdown in such highly stressful, emotional and damaging situation. Maya still was able to say no and attempt to fight back. Some women completely shut down and retreat into their minds, a coping mechanism during assault. Would you tell that same woman her assault was not real because she didn't act in the way you expected her to? Because her mind and body did not meet up to your ideas of what should have happened in that situation?

And for those of us citing law and legality. There are two requirements of a crime. The mens rea (the thought) and the acteus reus (the action). Both elements must be present for a crime to be a crime. And in any way you spin it, whether as a rape allegation or assault or whatever, Ayan is guilty. He was of the mental frame of mind to cause her harm, and he also physically carried that out. Everyone saw that and it should not be a contention amongst us. How it plays out in the drama is another story.

Addressing the point of false allegations, they are the worst and anyone who engages in them is horrible too. But that's not the topic at hand. Again we can't jump four points down the story without seeing how it plays.

That's all. Let us please be respectful in what we say. Some of our fellow forum members have dealt with what Maya faced in some way or another, and some of the thoughtless comments are like rubbing salt in their wounds

While rape is highly highly contemptuous of an act that deserves highest punishment possible, allegation of false rape is equally contemptuous. That in itself insults other unfortunate people who have been victims of such heinous crimes. If Ayan has indeed raped Maya or even attempted to rape Maya he deserves to be punished with the most severe punishment possible. maya is equally punishable to claim that she was raped (really raped). Rape is a serious matter and lying about being raped should be very highly condemned as well.

Originally posted by: BIaddict

While rape is highly highly contemptuous of an act that deserves highest punishment possible, allegation of false rape is equally contemptuous. That in itself insults other unfortunate people who have been victims of such heinous crimes. If Ayan has indeed raped Maya or even attempted to rape Maya he deserves to be punished with the most severe punishment possible. maya is equally punishable to claim that she was raped (really raped). Rape is a serious matter and lying about being raped should be very highly condemned as well.

And that point is very well merited and true. However, until evergthing is revealed, both in the drama and in real life cases, we can't count all our chickens before they hatch. If the drama takes the turn where the allegations are false, it is a great forum to discuss the damage that does and hopefully that will be covered and send out the strong message. In the same way this message is being covered.

However, that's dependent on the drama. My point in real life being the same thing, you can't say someone's rape is false or not based on your assumptions of the situation or people involved. Everyone is equal in the eyes of the law until proven. Yet so many people, in the drama or in real life, are quick to pick sides, often blaming the victim.

Very good post. U explained things as they are.