*Season 2, Week 11* Analysis Thread - Page 38

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

KRPKAB never ceases to amaze me. The way CVs are doing the story telling is unique and one of a kind.
Hats off the all the cast and crew 👏 👏

I read a spoiler that Ishwari's realization or redemption will not be sudden or dramatic. It also said there won't be too many emotional dialogues to point out these realizations. I think this has already started for Ishwari. If in season 1, she was shown to be heavily influenced by maami and Vickky, this season she is being shown to be more disposed to listen to maamaji and Golu. I strongly feel that it will not be Suhana who will be the reason for Ishwari's change but will be Golu. And Suhana is the one who is going to help Bijoy understand Dev.

First time Ishwari sees Asha in the temple, she reveals that to both maamaji and maami. At that time she decides to follow maami's advice. Then came the time when maami tells Ishwari that Sonakshi is planning to come home because Suhana will pull her. But later during that summer camp last day when she is waiting, mama tells her that she shouldn't try to change destiny as she is not Ishwar. Ishwari is shown to accept it reluctantly. The first time maami suggests putting a case on the Boses for Suhana, Ishwari tells no, saying she doesn't want it to affect "Suhaana".

On Monday's episode Ishwari is shown to be packing lunch for Dev and maamaji stops her saying Dev has gone there just today so Ishwari should not visit abruptly as he is now a father and can very well take care of his daughter. Ishwari says what trouble would anyone have with her going there. She would just give the food and come back. Mama asks her to have patience and support Dev. The very next day Ishwari does take lunch to Bose house. But the result is as maama said. Hence when she comes back even though maami and Vickky try to instigate her and suggest legal recourse again, she doesn't really blame the Boses, but says no again, but gives the reason as "not wanting to cause any more issues to Dev".

Ishwari says she hasn't spoken to Dev and Golu tells her not to disturb him as it was his first day with his daughter and they need to give space. In that dining table scene, Ishwari is shown as sitting at the head of the table, while maami and maama are shown to sit on either side of her. Just like how they show ones conscience, the devil and angel sitting on the shoulder. While maami continues with her provocations to make Ishwari call Dev, maama stops her. This time it was shown that Ishwari listened to maama and today even agreed to go to Vaishno Devi without much opposition. She has started to pay heed to maamaji's words more than maami.

Conversely Bijoy yesterday remarked that what can Dev teach about parenting and that too to Sonakshi. From what is shown it seems Sonakshi's parenting style is heavily influenced by Bijoy and not much by Asha. Sonakshi liked fairy tales where prince would marry the princess and live happily ever after. Here Sonakshi looked for validation from the prince regarding herself, may not be consciously, but sub consciously. Also she went with the kind of parenting style where she wanted Soha to follow what she said because it was the solution in a principled way. Kind of like bookish way where it tells kids fall sick, do what doctors say, a child should have schedule and each activity begins and ends at specified times.

I am not saying this is an incorrect method of parenting, but here I feel that childishness is lost quickly. The life becomes monotonous and there is very little excitement as your time is kind of laid out. If someone asks what you are doing at 2 pm from a week from now, in a couple of minutes the answer is available that "I will be attending so and so class at that time". There is no element of surprise. I feel this is what Dev is bringing to Soha's life, that she was missing but is not understood by Sonakshi or Bijoy. From their perspective it is better to have schedules and stick to them like clockwork. They don't see that there is anything lacking in that. In fact they consider it "perfect". What Dev is doing is bringing that element of unknown, an adventure, taking risks to live and pursue happiness.

When Soha was sick Sonakshi preferred injection which is painful, but is something that would have definitely helped Soha get better. Dev also choose a medicine which was equally painful(bitter to taste, hence painful for throat 😊 ), to help her for the same issue. While Sonakshi told Soha that she needs to take that injection because it was necessary, Dev did the same in a way where he did not have to force Soha to take it. Infact it was Soha who eagerly asked for it. 😆 .

Similarly when Sonakshi told her it was time to sleep Soha showed reluctance, but Dev got her to do just that by making it exciting. Even the story he picked did not talk about a prince. It just talked about the princess who fought the dragon by herself. Sonakshi had once told Dev, you just feed me, I will fight the dragon myself, in reality she expected Dev to slay the dragon. But with the story Dev told Soha, he is empowering her to actually be confident about herself and not look to someone else for positive validation.

Through Suhana, Bijoy will realize the lacking in his parenting skills, while It will give the much needed dose of reality to Sonakshi from her "perfect" world.

I am really glad to be part of this journey. 😃


Sorry for the late replay but It is an interesting thought. about Ishu's realization throught Golu. and for Bijoy it is Soha.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


Yes, you are right; lying was another one of Dev's terrible flaws, but I think that too could have been dealt with, given time. He lied to get out of uncomfortable situations and to keep his loved ones happy, so once he learned that this was not really working, and there were much more effective ways to ensure this in the long term, he would have gradually grown the courage he has now to throw unpleasant truths in people's faces. Basically, what has happened all of a sudden with the split and the leap would have happened more gradually. On the other hand, it's cool that Dev and Sona grew up independently of each other and are now coming together as more self-aware adults. I am excited for that side of the love story too.

Don't be so sure about mumma's boys. 😆 I like to say they are double-edged swords. On the one hand, they do have this dependence on their mothers, but on the other they usually have a very strong, inherent respect for women because they value their mother so much, and are very committed family men. It's all a game of priorities. I would say, if the boy has other outstanding qualities, I would be willing to understand/work on the mumma's boy part. Then again, I wouldn't really be willing to live in my in-laws house, so it might not become as much of an issue as it was for Sona.

Bolded - 100% true. All mamma's boy's do not share such obsessive relationship like Ishwari & Dev had. But for sure, what Sam said in the second half is true...They have an inherent respect for women and if given the needed support to transform from being the caterpillar in the cocoon to becoming an adorable butterfly, they for sure will be committed family men. Talking from my experience...😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thought of listing out the Golden words/statements I got from various posts/writeups inside & outside of this forum as well.

@Samanalyse...The wise words from your post on Page 24 - What Asha is conveying to both of them is that they shouldn't see their tolerance/control as a favour to anyone but as building blocks of a strong and resilient relationship, one where they can learn to respect each other and most importantly, be good parents to Soha.
and similar words in Page 28, which echoed the above sentiment - Don't send your sacrifice out into the world, sit back and expect others to repay for them. Instead, think of them as sacrifices you are making, not for anyone else, but for your own future. Just like I might sacrifice going to a party to study for an exam-- it might be unpleasant now, and nobody will thank me for it and it might not pay off for a long time, but in the end, I am ensuring my own future.

@Payalji...As I have mentioned in some other thread, I really salute you for the unbiased thoughts you post on Devakshi, inspite of your bitter life experiences...Your post on Page 27 is also one such post and the golden words from your post is, ''In life nothing comes in ready made, ready to eat packets except the family we are born in. Neither ready made husband, nor ready made wife nor ready made Mother in law. It all has to be slow cooked but once done tastes splendid and is for life long to eat and enjoy."...👏👏👏
Saheli (fusion article)...Men build the house, women make the house a home (trust me they have indeed a special talent/skill for that, provided you need to believe yourself). You are a maker if you are building a house, but you are a creator if you are warming up a house into a home. And creation at any day requires more patience than making.

@aaliah3108...Your post on page 28 was an amazing one pinpointing valid questions...The statement I liked the most is ''please understand all of us learn from what we see, our life's experiences make us what we are. What are elders for ??? Can we not learn anything from their experience ??''

@Latha(Livelife321)...Your reply to siddhi on Page 30 was really sweet. How genuinely and thoughtfully you have expressed Dev's helplessness in those lines...😊. And thanks for those golden words in Page 31...When life throws bricks at us, its up to us to decide whether to build a WALL or a BRIDGE.

@Deeps...You too for sure can't be missed from the list...The statement you made on Page 36 'Husband /wife is the only relation we are bound by fate but whole heartedly give our body and soul to, unlike to any blood relations we have by birth or giving birth' says it all...And as Asha said, it's the duty of both the partners to focus on that relationship than anything else.

Another 10 pages remaining...Shall join later 😭


Edited by grace4317 - 8 years ago
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Hi Finally I get the time to put a proper post. Now I will summarize the points which I observe or I like. Now the point which i feel was related to Dhoti shot I that shot the point observe is in that entire sequence dev was very clear that he is doing this for soha (and in mind soha and sona)and this is the not his problem but it is because of bijoy and as it is because of sona's family she should help her and he will not allow her to leave him alone in this doti problem. This is my thinking that it is very much relative to past where sona has left the dev in the middle of the problem especially after slap gate where she knows this slap was accidental and for this entire sequence at some point bose family was also responsible. and he was expecting her to help him to come out of the situation so he can make the things better from both the families point of view..
Now coming to the jatin's role in the futuer story that he will be first who will understand that sona loves dev actually he knows that sona loves dev and he some where knows it he just want to have a confirmation about it. After seeing the golu ,dev and Joti shot I feel he was there to clear to the dev that he is sona's childhood friend because he can read that dev was jealous. I think they will use jatin (after dev and sona union) for elena. by may be after knowing vickki and mami's truth may be elena and joti will push them to accept there felling.

Now coming to the Mrs. Mandal it is difficult to say that what she want. I think she is giddy about the bose wealth especially she right which is going to be for ronita after marring dada. but at this point she likes the sister of gkb. Now this entire theft sequence is going to have various out comes for each character. For dev he will have an idea when a father is blamed for wrong thing which he has not done how a daugther feels. In this entire sequence If dev don't make this entire thing as the prestige point and just let go this will be completely apposite to the bijoy's behavior 7 years back. where dev focus is to maintain the relation. I think dev will not say any thing for this blame only keep quite. For sona its will the waking up call and I hope she will come out of her assumption that her baba is perfect human and perfect baba. Another aspect is in the conversation with asha sona was having an problem that how dev can leave with ex Gkb or how dixit family tolerate ex GKB and vickki. Now you and bose family is also going to the person like ex gkb and an imperfect family
now what are they going to do. how they are going to deal with the person who is "bahar se kuch aur andar se kuch aur". My another aspect is according to spoliter asha will come to know the truth by the leasing the Mrs. Mandal's conversation with ronita measn ronita knows this and still if she keep quite means there are chances that she can very easily influence by her mother and can influence dada. Now I this situation how baba bose is going to react. Even the the truth related to so called theft comes out what will be the bijoy's stand still he stick to his principles or just let go the things . I thing he will let go the things. And if this happens sona and soha will have a impact of that. Lets See..
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ timbarucha
"In this entire sequence If dev don't make this entire thing as the prestige point and just let go this will be completely apposite to the bijoy's behavior 7 years back. where dev focus is to maintain the relation. I think dev will not say any thing for this blame only keep quite. For sona its will the waking up call and I hope she will come out of her assumation that her baba is perfect human and perfect baba."

Same thoughts. He will show what he expected from them as a family.
Edited by gmgi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Read the spoiler just now. Jatin will help Sonakshi realise her hidden love for Dev. Ridiculous,I felt. Sona is not a teenager who happened to taste love for the first time She is matured and a mother of a six year old daughter. I can't understand this term hidden love in case of Sonakshi. Just awkward I must say. If she is not exposing her love for him I am sure she has her own reasons.
Like she may still be feeling apprehensive thinking of her experiences in IN.

Or she may be unsure of Dev's love for her due to the incidents that happened in S2

Or she may be influenced by Bijoy's constant degradation of Dev's integrity.

I feel the day Sonakshi realises Dev's reality,the transformation that happened through seven years and Ofcourse his undaunted love for her,she on her own will confess and come forward.

Why should Jatin interfere in this totally private issue that is extremely complicated also .? I definitely would like Sonakshi to reconcile on her own and Dev to reciprocate. But CVs had different plans it seems. May be they want to recreate the climax of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Read the spoiler just now. Jatin will help Sonakshi realise her hidden love for Dev. Ridiculous,I felt. Sona is not a teenager who happened to taste love for the first time She is matured and a mother of a six year old daughter. I can't understand this term hidden love in case of Sonakshi. Just awkward I must say. If she is not exposing her love for him I am sure she has her own reasons.

Like she may still be feeling apprehensive thinking of her experiences in IN.

Or she may be unsure of Dev's love for her due to the incidents that happened in S2

Or she may be influenced by Bijoy's constant degradation of Dev's integrity.

I feel the day Sonakshi realises Dev's reality,the transformation that happened through seven years and Ofcourse his undaunted love for her,she on her own will confess and come forward.

Why should Jatin interfere in this totally private issue that is extremely complicated also .? I definitely would like Sonakshi to reconcile on her own and Dev to reciprocate. But CVs had different plans it seems. May be they want to recreate the climax of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.

Same thoughts. It would be better if she understands herself this time without any external push. As you said she might have number of reasons for not expressing it openly and instead of using Jotin if they show slight progression in Devakshi's relationship as parents and clearing some of MU, it would be lot better.
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Same thoughts. It would be better if she understands herself this time without any external push. As you said she might have number of reasons for not expressing it openly and instead of using Jotin if they show slight progression in Devakshi's relationship as parents and clearing some of MU, it would be lot better.

True. Looks like Jatin 's presence should be justified and CVs chose this way which is tried and tested.
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Originally posted by: cscs

Same thoughts. It would be better if she understands herself this time without any external push. As you said she might have number of reasons for not expressing it openly and instead of using Jotin if they show slight progression in Devakshi's relationship as parents and clearing some of MU, it would be lot better.

Tats wat i hve written in that spoiler thread...Jatin is used for clearing Mus or being a good buddy to them is ok...but He is needed for Sona to realise is not fine with me. ..She was always clear about her feelings more than Dev in S1 n fell in love first...I want that awareness n instropection from Sona that she still loves Dev madly n not any XYZ making her see through it!
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Originally posted by: cscs

Same thoughts. It would be better if she understands herself this time without any external push. As you said she might have number of reasons for not expressing it openly and instead of using Jotin if they show slight progression in Devakshi's relationship as parents and clearing some of MU, it would be lot better.

I think if they use the jatin to ask the correct question the sona and elena or golu to dev it will be easy for them because after clearing of mu still it is not easy for them to take the decision to with each other as there parents, will not be hapy about it. So in that sitution he can be used.

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