Why Daksh Calling Anika a Mistress Works For Gul/Harneet. - Page 9

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Navin Baisa !!!!

Pranaam !!!

Ruchi from RR forum. Not watched IB as such but landed here due to your post. Found link on TT as some friends do watch IB and we discuss.

Thank you for making such a brilliant post. Our TV industry is in such a mess these days its difficult to understand what they want to project.

The ladies in question Harneet /Gul are once again doing the infamous " Dekhna hai to Dekho " stance here too !!!

What I feel bad about it is these women try to justify what they are showing !!! Its sad, utterly sad.

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Have a good day all on the forum here.

Edited by aaliah3108 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am not sure why anyone expects any different from Gul. Look at her track record with all her serials - expecting her to give dignity to a woman, or respect is like expecting men to get pregnant and have babies. Aint happening!
And I couldn't agree more. TV serials enter our lives every single day and people empathize and associate with the characters. You dont realize but attitudes, opinions and thought processes get influenced by everything around us.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post!!

But this isn't the first time the CVs are showing something like this. They already showed a similar scenario when Shivaay forced Anika for a wedding by threatening to kill her brother. There Shivaay was the abuser and Anika in no time ended up living with her abuser and honoring the sham wedding. I think that could be seen as figuratively bowing down to one's abuser if not literally.

Anyways, I have no expectations from Gul to understand the seriousness and sensitivity of these issues, considering this has been the trend in most of her shows. But I do wonder sometimes how do the cast and crew manage to shoot these scenes esp with all the re-takes? Do they feel internally repulsed but have to do the scenes because of lack of choice or are they desensitized to these things and just go on about it mechanically?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Navin, what a thoughtful post 👏👏👏
I have nothing to add that you have not mentioned as yet.
But we as viewers personally connect with the characters and seeing them being butchered makes us feel like society can never progress if our TV keeps going this way for the sake of trps.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: napstermonster


In practically all parameters-- audience numbers, frequency of viewing and overseas/online hits, there is no question that the Indian TV industry, specifically its serials, has a FAR bigger reach, than the Indian movie industry. The devaluation of a woman on a movie screen is an issue, sure. But its 2 hours of your life, that ends with a film's 14 week run, as pirated DVDs on dusty shelves.

Indian serials enter every bedroom, living room and den in India. EVERY 2nd household. And also enter lives in over 100 countries worldwide that have cable Indian channels, OR show indian shows dubbed in local languages. The characters are household names, are like friends, sisters, brothers, or crushes. You feel you know them as well--better than-- your neighbor. That is the nature of repeat TV, and serials make stars, not the other way around. So absolutely the writers have a bigger role here. And given their reach, given the nature of their audience--they DO have to account for their content. It is not a free for all. If I am giving you my TRP, you better give me content that I can appreciate, or at least not be offended by.

And while I appreciate your take - I am not a woman who needs a strong role model. I AM a strong role model. And no, I don't identify with Anika or Khushi Or Zoya or Chulbul or whatever, as versions of how I want modern Indian womanhood to be. I'm not naiive. But your daughter may not view this show. I can guarantee, however-- a million daughters of other strong, smart, independent women do.

And I don't have my own kid, but I teach your kids. I love and worry about them. I guess, by that matrix, I currently have 140 kids. And let me tell you-- your kids (maybe not your daughter, but SOMEONE's daughter) is being affected much more by the show she watches obsessively, the show she discusses with her friends, by what the heroes do to the heroines than you comprehend. And I'm not talking about kids. I am talking about all girls, all ages.

That girl watching is 14 and too shy to ask an adult what is a healthy interaction between men and women in love, and what is abuse. She is 17, and experiencing the sensation of being stalked or being forced into stuff she doesn't like. She is walking home at 21 and wondering if she's being stupid or whether she should trust her instincts, and run. She is 24 and doesn't know what is professional behavior with that senior colleague, and what is borderline harassment. And a lot of girls facing these questions, they ask themselves, what would ____ do? Because that ____ is a real person to them. Not to you and me. But unconsciously, or not, they do model themselves after their idols. And THESE serial fictional characters are it.

These girls DONT make choices with full information, nor do they all have mothers /sisters /aunts to tell them in non threatening, non judgmental ways--hey, its okay. Being confused is 0kay. Let me guide you. THIS is okay, this is not. They gather information from these shows. So these shows cannot get away with glorifying or reducing the impact of plain, straight up abuse in the name of entertainment.

And yeah. I think saying this is redundant to someone like you, because you are like me. You and I HAVE smart, beautiful, intelligent, worldly friends. You and I ARE realists who have lived those first 24 years already and made mistakes and learnt from them and come out ok, on the other side. Thank god. With the strength to know what to do if crap happens, even if we don't get to always stop bad things from happening.

We are women who would KICK a man like Shivaay where it hurts, and be at the bail hearing that let Daksh out with the best lawyer in town and a can of pepper spray.

But this post is not for you. I guess--its for those daughters. And my 140 kids.



i am contemplating quitting watching all together ...i mean which women puts up with shit like that
believe me i know how this works been there and proud to say i am a survivor
i came out with battle scars but my dignity intact
its women like jhanvi who is putting up with shit and even young wifes like annika who put with emo bullshit misguide the younger generation ...quite a lot of times younger crowds fails to treat this drama as a story and treat it like part of their life
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It's truly an important message to Gul and Harneet! they promised, they will give us a show where they will be women empowerment. And yes at the beginning, we could say there was a strong Anika but nowadays, everything was spoiled... feel really sad and the Nayi Soch of star plus is also a BIG LIE!!!!! 😡
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

I'm probably not quitting Ishqbaaz quite yet. Chances are, neither are you. But I have a small condition for future viewership.


Hello,

Brilliant post...Why are they showing this crappy regressive content? Answer lies in you post ..the bolded part...Gul Khan& Co know us very well. We complaint...we write essays...we 'bombard' them with tweets...BUT we get back to our screens 9.30 p.m everyday without fail 😆. Why would/should she take us seriously? I read you post on the day you posted it but I waited to post my comment.. I wanted to see forum's reaction the next day for the next episode.. Just to test my theory ..😆😆😆..The issue was 'swept under the carpet by many'.. And we curse her for her 'dekna tho dekho ' attitude...😆😆The demand and supply theory is applicable here.. Gul Khan will keep on showing crap as love... Just package it beautifully... Throw good actors with drool worthy scenes now and then ..People will buy it as romance...increase trp...you will get more regressive stuff..😆

See, I am not pointing finger at you or anyone here... I stopped watching the show after the marriage track(it was too much for me..Annika lost Annika after that) but what did I do? i moved on to another serial ... -another desi version of angry young man and heroine who tries to redeem the jerk.. I am also guilty of the same thing. I encourage people like Gul Khan and Tiwari to show regressive stuff on telly.

While we are on it...bear with me...(since this will be my first and last post n the forum)

Aren't we guilty of expecting too much from Gul Khan???????-I mean..we all know about her fixation with Mills and Boon...Her heroes are proof of that. Ever come across a progressive M&B hero? I've yet to come across one. M&B heroes especially 80s ones...are the worst of the lot.. They manhandle the fls...they torture the them physically and mentally..Some even rape them...🤢🤢🤢 or, they have sex every other page... Very similar to what Gul has shown in the past and what she is showing now. Only difference is, instead of monkey sex every other scene we get 'trip fall catch scenes, eye sex...and occasional hugs. (taking TRP aunties into consideration)...

I think this will stop only when I, the viewer stop subscribing/enjoying the regressive stuff they show...😕

-kate-
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Napster I tweeted the exact same sentiments to harneet after the episode! I agree with every word you say. I am disgusted at the level to which the writer has made a woman fall. It is cringeworthy.
I continue to watch the show despite my disgust but like many I have lost hope for any backbone in Annikas character and and lost my respect for her current character portrayal.

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