Why Daksh Calling Anika a Mistress Works For Gul/Harneet.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm probably not quitting Ishqbaaz quite yet. Chances are, neither are you. But I have a small condition for future viewership.

Harneet/Gul have to promise just one thing, going forward. They have to promise to no longer pretend they are feminists, or even modern women. Just..stop with that bullshit. Writer, Madam Ji. Stop posting empowerment messages on Insta. Stop liking videos on women's empowerment, stop tweeting rubbish you clearly don't believe about equality, about women's rights. Stop pretending you support changing societies. You two have a platform that literally is unprecedented in its reach-- the WHOLE of the world watches your show. And you show.. this. Your show content reveals what you two actually believe is a woman's place, a woman's role. So don't do the social media crap of acting otherwise. You both know you are fine with the horrors and the abuse that is happening to women all around you.

Short Skirt Means Rape. Alone outside after 10? Hunt the bitch down, characterless hoga. Your Wife talks back? Acid maro, haq hai. She said no? No means yes. SHE rejected you? Maar dalo, mardaani ko chot diya. She spoke to a man you don't like? Honor killing. And how do proper, sanksari Nayi Soch women deal with an abuser, who is a man, and "rishtae mei" is someone senior?

Payi laagu, Abuser-ji.

Its okay if Harneet believes this. If Gul thinks this is angsty romance. Why not? Half of the western world does. Most of the sub-continent's men do. But please stop pretending to be anything but regressive, dangerous cowards who will show anything for shock value, and not care why people are shocked. I'll tell you, why we are shocked. And its not because of your Oscar worthy writing, or because of the controversy you created with this shit. Its because--

Most women, hell, ALL women know what its like to feel helpless. To feel pressured as teenagers to pull down their top and hitch up the skirts. To not flinch when that uncle touches you in a way you know is wrong. To be shushed by relatives when you cry that a man squeezed you when he walked by. To hitch up your dupatta when crossing a group of men, and to still hear the calls. To look down when a man is staring, just to see him grab his crotch.

And today, a heroine who we were sold as progressive, intelligent, independent, strong--ONE OF US--- she was made to touch her abusive stalker's feet. It was her own choice. Her own decision. The abuse, that was something she had no control over. But today, Harneet and Gul made sure, that we all had no control either, over that sickening feeling in the pit of our stomachs when we saw Anika-- an internationally renowned FL of a top ranking show for God's sake-- as she was made complicit in her abuse.

We'll watch. Ok. But what will you show us? You redeem a character when circumstances outside their control makes them do those ugly, terrible things. Misunderstandings, wrong thoughts. whatever. Redemption means there is character growth, a change in viewpoint. But this? You are telling us this is already the best thing to do. The right thing. Because Anika did it.

Anika as a redeemable character, who I care for or identify with, is over for me today. How do you redeem a woman who is now complicit in her own abuse? She deliberately is showing respect to her abuser, allowing him to have power over her.
She stoops to touch his feet, something you do in our culture only out of reverence, only to those who have earned our respect-- and Anika does it, by choice, to her abuser. Even after she is told not to, by her husband, since this is as much an insult to him as it is to her. She does so, because she wants to show --YOU want to show, that she is lower in every way possible than the Oberois, the patriarchy, her sasural/man.

Yesterday "they" mattered more than Sahil. Today they mattered than more herself, more than Shivaay's wishes. She accepts that the Oberois matter more than her self respect, her legal rights, even basic morals. As well the self respect of her husband, who asked her not to do this. Shivaay beat the crap out of Daksh. As her husband, hell, as a decent man, he did what was right, and protected her. And today, in just one act, Anika uss protection ka dhajiya ura diya.

She sees herself as so beneath Shivaay, his manhood, his needs, his family, its impossible to imagine them as equals ever again.
I don't want Shivaay to declare her as his wife. No wife lets her dignity be compromised like this. There are married women on this forum. There are also people who have been pinched, harassed, forcibly kissed, fondled, stalked, frightened for doing nothing more than being a woman. Do you see yourself, any of you, letting that abuser get this type of respect from you?

No wife lets her abuse be extended to self humiliation like this. She didn't act like anything more than a mistress today. Like a woman of no value, a victim who literally bends to her abuser. Thik hai. Daksh se sahi title mila.

And Harneet, and Gul, 8th March 2017 is International Women's Day. This year's theme is Be Bold. The idea is to boldly, fearlessly stand up to wrongs. To promote women's strength, their courage. To encourage yourself and the women you know to go out in the world, to live freely, to laugh happily, to fight for your rights. To support each other in this movement. To be seen as just normal, regular people -- not as perfect madonnas, not as lowly wh**es--but to be seen as people, with self respect, with love and strength.

I humbly request that you two don't celebrate it.

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Edited to add: I don't do Twitter/Ista. Feel free to tweet or repost. Just... don't think what was shown, was okay. That its just entertainment, that its not abusive. Don't think that. Please.

Edited to add again: A pertinent response: page 8
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Posted: 8 years ago
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ye kya hogaya napster... amar mon ekdom bhenge geche...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

I'm not quitting Ishqbaaz. Chnaces are, neither are you. But I have a small condition for future viewership.

Harneet/Gul has to promise just one thing, going forward. They have to promise to no longer pretend they are feminists, or even modern women. Just..stop with that bullshit. Writer, Madam Ji. Stop posting empowerment messages. Stop liking videos on women's empowerment, stop tweeting rubbish you clearly don't believe about equality, about women's rights. Stop pretending you support changing societies. You two have a platform that literally is unprecedented in its reach-- the WHOLE of the world watches your show. And you show.. this. The Show reveals what you two actually believe is a woman's place, a woman's role. So don't do the social media crap of acting otherwise. You both know you are fine with whats happening to women nowadays.

Short Skirt Means Rape. Alone outside after 12? Hurt her, characterless hoga. Your Wife talks back? Acid maro haq hai. She said no? No means yes. SHE rejected you? Maar dalo, mardaani ko chot diya. She spoke to a man you don't like? Honor killing. And how do proper, sanksari Nayi soch women deal with an abuser, who is a man, and "RISHTA me" is someone "senior" or more important, than you?

Payi laagu, abuser ji.


Its okay if Harneet believes this. If Gul thinks this is angsty romance. Why not? Half of the western world does most of the sub-continent's men do. But please stop pretending to be anything but regressive, dangerous cowards who will show anything for shock value, and not care why people are shocked.


Most women know what its like to feel helpless. To feel pressured as teenagers to pull down their top and hitch up the skirts. To not flinch when that uncle touches you in a way you know is wrong. To be shushed by relatives when you cry that a man squeezed you when you walked by. To hitch up your dupatta when crossing a group of men, and to still hear the calls. To look down when a man is staring, just to see the crotch grabs.


And today, a heroine who we were sold as progressive, intelligent, independent, strong--ONE OF US--- she was made to touch her abusive stalker's feet. It was her own choice. Her own decision. The abuse, she had no control over. But today, Harneet and Gul made sure, that we all had no control either, over the sickening feeling in the pit of our stomachs when we saw Anika-- An internationally renowned FL for God's sake--be complicit in her abuse.


We'll watch. Ok. But what will you show us? You redeem a character when circumstances outside their control makes them do bad things. Misunderstandings, wrong thoughts. whatever. Redemption means there is character growth, a change in viewpoint. But this-- you are telling is this is already the best thing to do. The right thing.


Anika is over for me today. How do you redeem a woman who is now complicit in her own abuse? She deliberately is showing respect to her abuser, allowing him to have power over her.
She stoops to touch his feet, something you do in our culture only out of reverence, only to those who have earned our respect-- and Anika does it, by choice, to her abuser. EVEN AFTER SHE IS TOLD NOT TO BY HER HUSBAND SINCE THIS IS AN INSULT TO HIM AS WELL AS HER. She does so, because she wants to show she is lower in every way possible than the Oberois.


Yesterday they mattered more than Sahil. Today the Oberois mattered than more herself, than Shivaay's wishes too. She accepts that the Oberois matter more than her self respect, her legal rights, even basic morals. As well the self respect of her husband, who asked her not to do this. Shivaay beat the crap out of Daksh. As her husband, hell, as a decent man, he did what was right, and protected her. And today, in one act, Anika uss protection ka dhajiya ura diya.

She sees herself as so beneath Shivaay, his manhood, his needs, his family, its impossible to imagine them as equals ever again.
I don't want Shivaay to declare her as his wife. No wife lets her dignity be compromised like this. There are married women on this forum. There are people who have been pinched, harassed, forcibly kissed, fondled, stalked, frightened for doing northing more than being a woman. Do you see yourself letting that abuser get this type of respect from you?

No wife lets her abuse be extended to self humiliation like this. She didn't act like anything more than a mistress today. Like a woman of no value, a victim who literally bends to her abuser. Thik hai. Daksh se sahi title mila.

And Harneet, and Gul, 8th March 2017 is International Women's Day. This year's theme is Be Bold. The idea is to promote strength, courage. To encourage yourself and the women you know to go out in the world, fight for your rights. To support each other in the movement, to be seen as just normal, regular people with self respect, with love and strength.

I humbly request that you two don't celebrate it.


I completely agree with you! After EDKV, this was a serial which I thought suited my ideology and one of the main reasons was WOMEN EMPOWERMENT, but if this is what the CVs are going to show, I wonder how many will continue watching the show(I hope all of us does so😃)!

BTW, would like to know your name.
-----Shikha
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I THIS CONTINUE LIKE THIS...IF SHE COMPROMISES HER SELF RESPECT FOR OBEROIS...THEN IN FUTURE SHE WILL BECOME ANOTHER JHANVI SINGH OBEROI...WHO LIVES IN THAT HOUSE AS A NAMESAKE WIFE OF TEJ... AND LIKE HER ANIKA WILL ALSO END UP BREAKING DOWN...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishti4maan

ye kya hogaya napster... amar mon ekdom bhenge geche...

Mon to shobar i bhenge geche!
Ekhon mon ke judte Cvs i paare!
Dekhi aage ki hoy!

Would like to know your name.

-----Shikha
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Navin, there are tears in my eyes as I write this. My hands are shaking as I type. You've made me cry.

I have nothing against ShivIka, I love them and probably will till the end of time. I liked the progress they showed in their story today, though it's not enough. I'm gonna skip a few episodes and follow stuff on HS until we're past this phase.

It's the CVs who're at fault here.

It's easy for people to chalk this down to TRPs, to women liking feeling helpless and being devis in front of their husbands.

I have worked with victims of assault. When they tell their stories, you can not even fathom the amount of effort they put on to hide the pain from their faces. They scream, they cry, they're disgusted and pained all at the same time. It's an experience that never leaves you.

One woman... Her words still haunt me "Uss din meree zindagi khatam ho gai. Aap ko kabhee samajh nahee aye ga kaisa lagta hai jab koi apna gandey tareeqe se choota hai."

I'm really really really sorry for sounding like a drama queen or the actress of a soap opera. I'm usually a happy person on the HS thread and try extra hard to be funny and keep the tone light. But it's hard to block out these memories from your brain.

Yes, creative license gives you the excuse to show how victims of assault deal with their past. But let's be frank - this is being done for the mullah - not to tell a story. Expect Anika to go even further down the drain.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lovely that I don't have anything to say👏
Can someone share this on Twitter n IG please
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Posted: 8 years ago
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She just tweeted people to stop watching if they have a problem with her show 😆

Couldn't agree more with you. It's just a show, but no woman should be made to bend to her abuser.

I was done with her character when she walked up to be announced as his wife even though he forced her to marry him and after he made very clear what he thought of her (and the marriage). Most people only have to be told once to get the picture, but she has been told and shown every episode what she is to them.

She was already a sad lump of pathetic, but even in her post-marriage pathetic-ness she never touched someone's feet. The writers are disgusting for trying to paint Anika's disturbing behavior in a positive light like she is the perfect sacrificing bahu. It's almost like the writers are saying "look guys..look at how kind and good Anika is. She is the perfect bahu who values relationships putting his family's happiness ahead of herself and one glorious day the family will see her value."

I don't feel sorry for her or care that she suffers because she herself lets it happen. No one came to Sahil's defense not even her but she is ready to throw herself at the man, who abused, harassed, and even tried to kill her because it's about Prinku's rishta...LMAO. I was waiting for the writers to go here and it finally happened.

There is no secret plan and no mission to defeat the baddies. She literally has no self-respect, period. She has no value as woman or as a human being and she herself is okay with it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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someone please tweet this to the entire crew of ishqbaaaz!
happy women's day week everyone #nayisoch or not - we better know only strong women unlike the women behind this #crapbaaaz 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Napster. ...Annika was an end story the day she accepted her. Bullshit marriage for me...So this actually is nothing...The day she decided marriage is above her self respect and rights it was with dread that I watched it...Instead she fell in love...Okay...We can justify it by saying g it's a story or a show...And all but that day I lost hope that they would show her fighting against him... She gladly accepted her tormentor as her pati and his family lost all essence of her character...
So why expect a different attitude in case of Daksh.

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