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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well analysed...thanks for the well written post.
In the episode many hints are there for future of the leads... one thing which pandit says is not true in its meaning... the word love is not used in its proper context... last sentence, '" jo prem manushya ko samander ki gehraion tak le jaa sakta hai, wohi prem oose aasman ki oonchaion par bhi le jaa sakta hai "
Here comparison of two different love of his life is done, two women in his life, First is Maya, as per Arjun's feelings is his pyar, mohbbat [ ishq wala love ] , which Maya made him fall for her, after so many manipulations & tactics... Arjun has false image of Maya in his heart, brain, perception... Maya is not that what he thinks about her... all his believes about her is like as bubble, will burst when he will face reality, will see her true colors... then instead of love for her, he will have pain filled heart, will feel deceived... as he has loved her with the bottom of his heart, he will get hurt a lot ******** while Maya's love is not love, but is clearly evident, it's obsession... she goes to any extent to have him in her life... does she think once, what will he feel if he will get truth of her life, that he will feel deceived or cheated from the person whom he has loved so much... their relation is not based on having bilateral love, care, respect & faith... for Arjun all boxes ticked yes... but for Maya it is a big no... she can make him marry her, bind to her life, but real union of life partners, no... so to me, I don't see Arya's future.

Other woman in Arjun's life is Saanz... in their relationship there is no pretense, no lies, no manipulations... they know each-other in-out since childhood, their emotional universe is based on childhood's innocence, growing age's trust & care for each-other... nothing to hide or nothing to manipulate, they don't need it... best buddies... as years pass by she felt for him differently, but she never asked for it from her side... Here she looks interfering his life, but it is her concern, care for him, she sensed some fishy thing about Maya's behavior, actions... so to save him she try to warn him... she never try to have him... and she is right too... many wise people says... " pyar ko aise hi khula chhod do, agar woh aapka hai to waise hi laut aayega, agar nahi, toh oose jaane do, woh aap ka tha hi nahi... so she let him be free, if he will feel for her, she will get his love... even if she doesn't get him, she will be there for him in all thicks & thins of his life...
In the end of the show whatever way they end the story, Arjun alone & Maya in jail or killed herself, I don't see Maya-Arjun together
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: star1315

Well analysed...thanks for the well written post.

In the episode many hints are there for future of the leads... one thing which pandit says is not true in its meaning... the word love is not used in its proper context... last sentence, '" jo prem manushya ko samander ki gehraion tak le jaa sakta hai, wohi prem oose aasman ki oonchaion par bhi le jaa sakta hai "
Here comparison of two different love of his life is done, two women in his life, First is Maya, as per Arjun's feelings is his pyar, mohbbat [ ishq wala love ] , which Maya made him fall for her, after so many manipulations & tactics... Arjun has false image of Maya in his heart, brain, perception... Maya is not that what he thinks about her... all his believes about her is like as bubble, will burst when he will face reality, will see her true colors... then instead of love for her, he will have pain filled heart, will feel deceived... as he has loved her with the bottom of his heart, he will get hurt a lot ******** while Maya's love is not love, but is clearly evident, it's obsession... she goes to any extent to have him in her life... does she think once, what will he feel if he will get truth of her life, that he will feel deceived or cheated from the person whom he has loved so much... their relation is not based on having bilateral love, care, respect & faith... for Arjun all boxes ticked yes... but for Maya it is a big no... she can make him marry her, bind to her life, but real union of life partners, no... so to me, I don't see Arya's future.

Other woman in Arjun's life is Saanz... in their relationship there is no pretense, no lies, no manipulations... they know each-other in-out since childhood, their emotional universe is based on childhood's innocence, growing age's trust & care for each-other... nothing to hide or nothing to manipulate, they don't need it... best buddies... as years pass by she felt for him differently, but she never asked for it from her side... Here she looks interfering his life, but it is her concern, care for him, she sensed some fishy thing about Maya's behavior, actions... so to save him she try to warn him... she never try to have him... and she is right too... many wise people says... " pyar ko aise hi khula chhod do, agar woh aapka hai to waise hi laut aayega, agar nahi, toh oose jaane do, woh aap ka tha hi nahi... so she let him be free, if he will feel for her, she will get his love... even if she doesn't get him, she will be there for him in all thicks & thins of his life...
In the end of the show whatever way they end the story, Arjun alone & Maya in jail or killed herself, I don't see Maya-Arjun together


Thank you! Ah yes, pretty much. Irrespective of whether Arjun and Saanjh end up together or not, I don't really see a happy future for Maya and Arjun either.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#33
In hindi shows, people rarely end up alone. They are always paired, whether it makes sense or not.
If Maya is a psycho-killer, Arjun and Saanjh will be paired up.

I will miss Ashwin. The actor has done full just to the character and has kept the story moving as TM has pointed out.

I think I am only one who did not enjoy the tattoo scene. It was sensuous but crazy. I did not like Maya making the tattoo. Tattooing is dangerous and should be done professionally. 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you for making such sensible and impartial post.
What the pandit was saying about the same love that can take you to the bottom can also rise you to the sky (something of that sort), and how you just need to identify the true love. The way I am perceiving it is as 2 different kinds of love an obsessive destructive love versus a selfless pure love. It was said in a way that you can perceive it as either Maya's love or maybe Sanj's love. From what they have shown so far it seems like they are hinting towards how after Maya's destructive love Sanj's selfless love will save him or maybe they are leaving room open for any option the way they are sort of indirectly hinting stuff.

I see all three options possible at this point - all of them ending up single, a Maya Arjun pairing at end or a Sanj's Arjun pairing at end. I wish they are bold enough to end it the most realistic way they all end up single. After the way Arjun never even considered Sanj's feelings let alone respect or trust her friendship I do not want Sanj's with Arjun. After the way Maya deceived Arjun and caught him in a web of lies I do not want Arjun with Maya.

From what I have seen so far Maya does not deserve Arjun and Arjun does not deserve Sanj. The most preferable ending for me is Maya redeeming herself setting Arjun free, Arjun regretting the way he insulted Sanj's friendship and Sanj maybe learning a few lessons about loving herself first, learning that her life is much more worthy than her friendship and learning a lesson or two on self respect. That is what one would expect in real life from this situation. But then again thus is a fictional story so let us see how they take this forward.

One thing I still cannot believe is Ashwin's death, without his scenes with Maya and his Maya baby half the spice of the show is gone.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: BIaddict

Thank you for making such sensible and impartial post.

What the pandit was saying about the same love that can take you to the bottom can also rise you to the sky (something of that sort), and how you just need to identify the true love. The way I am perceiving it is as 2 different kinds of love an obsessive destructive love versus a selfless pure love. It was said in a way that you can perceive it as either Maya's love or maybe Sanj's love. From what they have shown so far it seems like they are hinting towards how after Maya's destructive love Sanj's selfless love will save him or maybe they are leaving room open for any option the way they are sort of indirectly hinting stuff.

I see all three options possible at this point - all of them ending up single, a Maya Arjun pairing at end or a Sanj's Arjun pairing at end. I wish they are bold enough to end it the most realistic way they all end up single. After the way Arjun never even considered Sanj's feelings let alone respect or trust her friendship I do not want Sanj's with Arjun. After the way Maya deceived Arjun and caught him in a web of lies I do not want Arjun with Maya.

From what I have seen so far Maya does not deserve Arjun and Arjun does not deserve Sanj. The most preferable ending for me is Maya redeeming herself setting Arjun free, Arjun regretting the way he insulted Sanj's friendship and Sanj maybe learning a few lessons about loving herself first, learning that her life is much more worthy than her friendship and learning a lesson or two on self respect. That is what one would expect in real life from this situation. But then again thus is a fictional story so let us see how they take this forward.

One thing I still cannot believe is Ashwin's death, without his scenes with Maya and his Maya baby half the spice of the show is gone.


Thank you!

I agree. That's a kind of ending I would like to see too. Although, like someone pointed out above, leads in hindi tv shows rarely end up alone. So, meanwhile, we can only break our heads over the two interpretations pandit's prediction/words offered us. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Karaali

In hindi shows, people rarely end up alone. They are always paired, whether it makes sense or not.

If Maya is a psycho-killer, Arjun and Saanjh will be paired up.

I will miss Ashwin. The actor has done full just to the character and has kept the story moving as TM has pointed out.

I think I am only one who did not enjoy the tattoo scene. It was sensuous but crazy. I did not like Maya making the tattoo. Tattooing is dangerous and should be done professionally. 😊


You just made a good point there.

Yeah, Ashwin was crucial to the story but is sadly going to bid us good bye. These kinds of romantically intense scenes are mostly carried off on shoulders by Jen. Kushal does seem to have improved but the guy still needs to work on his expressions a lot and work on his acting overall as well.

Maya doesn't care about what's dangerous or what's not, she's here to break every rule there is in the book. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .annihilation.


You just made a good point there.

Yeah, Ashwin was crucial to the story but is sadly going to bid us good bye. These kinds of romantically intense scenes are mostly carried off on shoulders by Jen. Kushal does seem to have improved but the guy still needs to work on his expressions a lot and work on his acting overall as well.

Maya doesn't care about what's dangerous or what's not, she's here to break every rule there is in the book. 😆



I think kushal improve a lot when he acts all mad and irresponsible towards saanj. The scene where he was yelling at her, an shaking her violently . I wanted to smack him senselessly. But I saw the wedding making an I think. Bandana will remove arjun during the wedding after saanj warns him. He will refuse, an marries Maya without them. This action would probably cause him to be alone later on like the pandiji on the trip said. Maya will only be his new family.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38
Excellent post by you, Husna! 👏
Rajesh Khattar / Ashwin.. you shall be missed. 😭
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Same here bro. Can't imagine the show without him at this point of time. Maya and his scenes were the ones I loved the most after Maya has started to stand up to him.- specially the one where in the press confrence, Maya and he exchanges fake smiles. Like both of them know what's going on. But yet the fake smiles. Damn. That was lit.
I don't know what they're gonna do without him because rn, he and Maya are the only forces of the story. Like Voldy and Harry maybe :P I'm not saying morally, but yeah he and Maya are the forces of the show. All actions and reactions are from these two. I hope some other strong character emerges after him otherwise, I cant imagine what the show is gonna be.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Also, in all right sense, Rajesh is the second best thing that has happened to Beyhadh after Jen.
Edited by NAUCholic - 9 years ago

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