Karthik - What Every Child Wants

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Posted: 8 years ago
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From the way Karthik cried and hugged that drawing of his mother and him after entering his room the first time. After seeing that scene anyone could tell that his mother meant the world to him. Karthik breaking down completely after revealing his side of the past to Naira, his pain wasn't only due to his mother's death, it was also because he felt his father responsible, it was also because somewhere he had ended up loosing both his parents, it was because he saw his father come home married to the woman responsible for his mother's suicide. He had been hurt so badly as a very young child, his perfect happy family had been destroyed to such an extent that in his eyes nothing could ever be back to normal. Karthik's breakdown infront of Naira showed how much the past still effected him, his wounds hadn't healed.

What I felt in today's scene, when Karthik talks about the past incident, is that, Firstly, Manish took the wrong approach to start with. Instead of attending to Karthik's anger making the young child understand lovingly, he chose the option of raising his hand, that is not the way to behave with a child, especially in the circumstances which Karthik and Manish were. Maybe Manish did try to handel things calmly for a while but Karthik acted stubborn and Manish ended up getting angry, but still raising you hand on a child isn't an option. Manish might have thought Karthik was too young to understand the actual situation but he could have at least tried, if Karthik didn't understand he should have let him be try to make small advances in the mean time and when Karthik grew older probably try to explain him the situation once again, who knows he would have understood this time at least. Secondly he sent Karthik to boarding like seriously, when the boy should have been between his loved ones, you push him away to be alone and now you want him to come back to you all.

Karthik simply wants what every child wants, to be loved and cared for to feel protected. Somehow Manish failed to do that, you can't accept a child to feel protected by a person who raised his hand on him. Maybe Karthik was being difficult, but aren't most children. Then Karthik was sent to boarding, instead of attending to his hatred and misunderstandings, the sent him to boarding to be alone, can you expect him to feel love and cared for by such people. He didn't get what a child wants from his family and he became hostile especially towards Swarna and Manish.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well written.
I agree that Kartik did lose both parents when the incident occured. How agonizing and torturous it must have been for a boy so young!
But I will say this. Kartik did come across a tad disrespectful today. I understand his point of view though. And Manish wasn't justified either. He never tried to understand why Kartik did what he did.

We don't know the circumstances to know what Manish went through. He must have been traumatized too. Maybe he was too disturbed by the events to deal with the kids' questions. I am not trying to justify what he did. Just trying to understand why.

What puzzles me the most is how and why has the rest of the family never tried to bridge the gap between them in all these years. If he was as young as 8 or 9 years old, surely people close to him like chachu, dadi, Keerti must have tried to talk to him. And young kids are impressionable. I am sure there was a way for them to make him understand things calmly even if Manish wasn't in the right frame of mind.
Which makes me think, chachu has done this deliberately. Or at least, he has not put much of an effort to clear things just so it puts him in some sort of advantageous position. Maybe with respect to money, or maybe something else.

Now there is years and years of pent up animosity and hurt. He must be having feelings of abandonment as well seeing as he was packed off to the hostel. And no one ever tries to tell him the true story which makes him believe his version, where Manish is guilty, even more.
Also neither Manish nor Kartik is good at dealing with anger. On top of that, they see all things differently. It just drives them further apart every time something goes wrong.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Brilliant post janvi.. yes Karthik has been scarred as a child... though I think manish and Swarna would not have been th
e reason for his mother's death... Manish should have made efforts to repair the damage at a young age itself.. Instead he chose to send the kid to hostel.

The Karthik we saw yesterday was not venting out emotions for what manish said about him now.. but it's all bottled up hatred over the years...

Karthik is still a kid at heart and wants love and protection from his family... since he was not given that at an age when he needed it most... he is not able to accept it now.. though heart of hearts he wants that. .

The self less love from naira s family is what draws him there most.. makes manish insecure and makes manish take the wrong method in handling his son..

However seeing yesterdays episode.. I feel it's better that kaira stay alone in that flat for some time where Naira can work on changing his mind... forcing Karthik to stay in GV will only lead him away frustrate him and probably increase his hatred for hid father more. .. Also it might crrate problem between kaira too
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Miraaya

Well written.

I agree that Kartik did lose both parents when the incident occured. How agonizing and torturous it must have been for a boy so young!
But I will say this. Kartik did come across a tad disrespectful today. I understand his point of view though. And Manish wasn't justified either. He never tried to understand why Kartik did what he did.

We don't know the circumstances to know what Manish went through. He must have been traumatized too. Maybe he was too disturbed by the events to deal with the kids' questions. I am not trying to justify what he did. Just trying to understand why.

What puzzles me the most is how and why has the rest of the family never tried to bridge the gap between them in all these years. If he was as young as 8 or 9 years old, surely people close to him like chachu, dadi, Keerti must have tried to talk to him. And young kids are impressionable. I am sure there was a way for them to make him understand things calmly even if Manish wasn't in the right frame of mind.
Which makes me think, chachu has done this deliberately. Or at least, he has not put much of an effort to clear things just so it puts him in some sort of advantageous position. Maybe with respect to money, or maybe something else.

Now there is years and years of pent up animosity and hurt. He must be having feelings of abandonment as well seeing as he was packed off to6 the hostel. And no one ever tries to tell him the true story which makes him believe his version, where Manish is guilty, even more.
Also neither Manish nor Kartik is good at dealing with anger. On top of that, they see all things differently. It just drives them further apart every time something goes wrong.


I agree that Manish could be right from his point of view am not saying he isn't just trying to say that Karthik is right from his point of view as well because he simply desires what every child wants, he isn't asking much. Like Priyanka said Karthik is really Manish's son because they both have the same kind on anger and trust me when two people have the same kind of anger it has hard to have a proper conversation between them if the don't seem to agree on something. Likee me and mom, I love my mom alot, probably most in this world, but I have fought the most with her simply because hum dono ka ghussa humare nak par rehta hai, and when we are angry we don't want to understand the other's point of view. And Karthik is already not in good terms with Manish, so he keeps on getting angry on little things. I agree that Karthik was a bit disrespectful yesterday but that was more due to the bottled up anger all years long, than yesterday's issue. I can't say if other's didn't try to bridge the gap or not, because what Karthik probably wanted was his father, to know that his mother was wrong and Manish and swarna had nothing and his father belonged to him, but when he saw swarna manish married every last hope must have left him. When you leave hope of something happening, even if others try they can't convince you. Only the person responsible for taking away your hope can make you understand.
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Originally posted by: kirts123

Brilliant post janvi.. yes Karthik has been scarred as a child... though I think manish and Swarna would not have been th

e reason for his mother's death... Manish should have made efforts to repair the damage at a young age itself.. Instead he chose to send the kid to hostel.

The Karthik we saw yesterday was not venting out emotions for what manish said about him now.. but it's all bottled up hatred over the years...

Karthik is still a kid at heart and wants love and protection from his family... since he was not given that at an age when he needed it most... he is not able to accept it now.. though heart of hearts he wants that. .

The self less love from naira s family is what draws him there most.. makes manish insecure and makes manish take the wrong method in handling his son..

However seeing yesterdays episode.. I feel it's better that kaira stay alone in that flat for some time where Naira can work on changing his mind... forcing Karthik to stay in GV will only lead him away frustrate him and probably increase his hatred for hid father more. .. Also it might crrate problem between kaira too


Excatly, Naira needs to work on changing his mind. She needs to make him see the real picture. I have no idea why no one in GV is doing that, they are waiting for Karthik anger to lessen but that isn't going to happen unless he knows the whole truth and instead of giving Karthik lectures of how much they love him, try explaining to him the full story, if he is not ready to believe it the first time, he might believe it the second times, if not second than at least the third. At one point he would understand the situation, but if you are just going to wait and make no effort to explain him than how can he know the truth. Even yesterday chachu chachi were telling Karthik we all love you alot, manish was right in his place and stuff like that, but they weren't making much effort to make karthik understand Manish's situation.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: janvi0513


Excatly, Naira needs to work on changing his mind. She needs to make him see the real picture. I have no idea why no one in GV is doing that, they are waiting for Karthik anger to lessen but that isn't going to happen unless he knows the whole truth and instead of giving Karthik lectures of how much they love him, try explaining to him the full story, if he is not ready to believe it the first time, he might believe it the second times, if not second than at least the third. At one point he would understand the situation, but if you are just going to wait and make no effort to explain him than how can he know the truth. Even yesterday chachu chachi were telling Karthik we all love you alot, manish was right in his place and stuff like that, but they weren't making much effort to make karthik understand Manish's situation.


Somehow I feel the GV family including manish swarna keerthi Gt are responsible for Karthiks condition... they never tried to make him understand and let him drift away.. I understand MG and SG would have felt difficult to deal with it.. bur still Karthik is affectionate towards keerthi uncle aunty and granny.. why did not they try to mend it?

If keerthi had accepted SG she should have made Karthik understand.. Instead they have left the feelings to be cultivated and grown inside his heart which takes a nasty outburst at even the smallest provocation...

Seeing Karthik angry yesterday I can understand what dadi meant about moon becoming angry and how dangerous it can be..

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