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Posted: 9 years ago
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I see the sense in your explanation of why Anika came back and is fighting for this. That, I can agree with.

But equating this to real life, differentiating reel and real..that's a little complicated. I can completely filter what I see. I take what I know I should take, the rest, I rant about it or leave it out. It's entertainment, after all. As you have pointed out.

What is the concern, however, is that a younger audience might see such action and this is normalizing such behaviors for them (i.e. SSO forcing Anika into the marriage). All of us watch it for the fun of it, sure, but I am just concerned years down the road some girl having watched these shows comes across a similar situation and just goes "meh, i've seen it on tv, this is completely okay" and just go with it. That, I am not okay with. Yes, I know IB is not the only show broadcasting such behaviors and there are many others...I am just talking about reel vs real generally.

Anyways, as I have said, this is entertainment. I only hope many other viewers, especially ones who might be much more susceptible, have the ability to switch that filter on like you and I do. Television and its content are powerful influences. Can't play too much with them šŸ˜‰
Edited by emerald39 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: MariaRebecca

They needed a bahu who will keep together the obros bond & the warring family. Shivaay needed a wife who can take half his responsibilities on her shoulder and balance him, not become another stress factor & make his heart crumble like some of the fandom want. She has never experienced love, never had the security of having a family, and now you guys want her to walk out without even giving a try. Yeah she tried, but its just a week or so. She has gone through fire, why would she wilt in sun? Shivaay is going to get punished for his misdeeds & his clock has already started ticking. Anika should stay and help this emotionally challenged confused man. She may later choose to walk out when he is no more helpless. If all the women in this country had only cared about their own self respect, then half of us wouldn't have even been in born, or would have been orphans or would have had step moms or so...so just chill. IB is totally gulogical I agree, but remember we are Indians, see that India's daughter documentary and be ashamed enough to ignore Anika's , a fictional character from a daily soap on SP, choice to support her occasionally abusive forced husband!!!


The point you are putting across, many people here will not agree to it. But I can agree with you a bit. Anika as a character has baffled me completely. I have never met a character like her. She is not the epitome of goodness as many of us think, she also is a grey character as much as the rest in the show.

Only the shade is different than the Oberois. She is a little less, and the Oberois are a little more, and Shivaay is even more. Anika, from the time she has opened her eyes, she has been fighting with life, struggling, falling, crying, getting up and that has been the cycle ever since. But that has never ever effected her positivity, her spunk, or her optimism, which is what makes her an inspiration for some, and attraction for someonešŸ˜‰

And then she meets a broken family, where there is lots of love in the hearts but not in their expressions - as the dust of wealth, power and reputation has settled on it. She meets a stubborn, rude, mean man who breaks himself everyday, and maybe others as well, to protect his brothers, his family...

She is just a milder female version of Shivaay, who has inadvertently always protected the Oberoi family against many things, just like Shivaay does for them...

If measured, Anika is at par with Shivaay's protective instincts, power, intelligence and strength. And that is one of the main reasons for their constant tug-of-war. And they have spent quite some time with each other , to learn quite a lot about each other, to understand each other on another level. She was meant to plan his wedding, but thanks to Tia, and Shivaay's anger that she became the newest Oberoi bride..

Now, she is definitely unhappy with Shivaay, for what he has done with her. And she does fight in her own way - the only way she knows with Shivaay. But, she also has accepted that she loves the man - so she cannot hurt him also that much. And she does not need to work hard to give it back to him, cause the Kapoors are enough to do that...

Kapoors are not just NAFRATBAAZ in the show. They are this priceless rod, jo Shivaay par padega, and Anika will not have to do a thing...Bina ungli uthaye, Kapoors uska kaam kar rahe hai

Shivaay blamed Anika for a One night stand that did not happen, Shivaay is now the father of a baby from a one night stand that never happened
Shivaay blackmailed Anika to marry him using her brother, Tia is blackmailing Shivaay to marry her using his brother
Shivaay played God with Anika's life, the Kapoors will play Satan with his

Anika is not living there to punish Shivaay, she is living there because she loves and cares for him, and inspite of all the complaints she has against him, she cannot abandon him in the fix he is in. His family , especially his brothers whom he loves to death - often misunderstand him, inspite of all that he does for them. But Anika, understands the reasons behind his actions and that is why she understands his harsh words, and his silence.

Anika is living there for Shivaay to see, how weak he is as a person, and how much more strong she is. Anika is living there, because she knows the truth, and she hasn't succeeded in proving it, and since it is in her nature to help people, she is doing the same - helping Shivaay inspite of him being so adamant, dumb and un-co-operative.

For instance, if it was any person in our lives, who we love a lot. Inspite of fighting, and arguments we still stick to them - be it parents or friends or anyone. We will never abandon them, even if they are being dumb

Anika is there not to break Shivaay's ego, she is there to break his prejudices, his biases he holds so precious to him...Anika is not a doormat, she is a person with varying shades in her. And baaki sab, as Rebecca said is GUL-OGY!!

So, that is where my opinion stands. Isse zyaada analysis mujhse nahi hoga about Anika. She is like this, and she is fictional and as we know Gul, unbelievable as well. So I am not interested in Reel vs Real, because Gul's shows never ever can apply on reality
Edited by libran90 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

I won't be surprised if Anika gets the Best Actress Award and Nayi Soch Award on Star Plus instead of Harleen or Naz or even Avni who truly deserve those awards because women in India can never like strong women but only doormats like Gopi Bahu and Anika Devi.


Isn't the best actress award for acting skills...which SC has terribly
And even Anika was never a doormat & will never be...sso is a hero with grey shades
And Anika will take him out of his such ways...I never saw Gopi or any such doormats give back the way that Anika does.. Anika won't let Shivaay be himself she will question his actions & principles forever but she'll stand with him...through all that.
Anyway its fictional after all!!
Can Avni really be possible? Maybe..but that child acts too well..still fiction
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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's weird in this show the way sso character was ruined beyond repair made us feel Anika needs to go .
Anika in om was unpleasant to watch director didn't handle it well .
But today showing shivika as compatable was classy I liked it it's weird but still I really loved there tuning as hubby and wife they rock but the way he married her was worst possible track but serial hai na Sab chalta hai
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">The point you are putting across, many people here will not agree to it. But I can agree with you a bit. Anika as a character has baffled me completely. I have never met a character like her. She is not the epitome of goodness as many of us think, she also is a grey character as much as the rest in the show.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Only the shade is different than the Oberois. She is a little less, and the Oberois are a little more, and Shivaay is even more. Anika, from the time she has opened her eyes, she has been fighting with life, struggling, falling, crying, getting up and that has been the cycle ever since. But that has never ever effected her positivity, her spunk, or her optimism, which is what makes her an inspiration for some, and attraction for someonešŸ˜‰</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">And then she meets a broken family, where there is lots of love in the hearts but not in their expressions - as the dust of wealth, power and reputation has settled on it. She meets a stubborn, rude, mean man who breaks himself everyday, and maybe others as well, to protect his brothers, his family...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">She is just a milder female version of Shivaay, who has inadvertently always protected the Oberoi family against many things, just like Shivaay does for them...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">If measured, Anika isat par with Shivaay's protective instincts, power, intelligence and strength. And that is one of the main reasons for their constant tug-of-war. And they have spent quite some time with each other , to learn quite a lot about each other, to understand each other on another level. She was meant to plan his wedding, but thanks to Tia, and Shivaay's anger that she became the newest Oberoi bride..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Now, she is definitely unhappy with Shivaay, for what he has done with her. And she does fight in her own way - the only way she knows with Shivaay. But, she also has accepted that she loves the man - so she cannot hurt him also that much. And she does not need to work hard to give it back to him, cause the Kapoors are enough to do that...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Kapoors are not just NAFRATBAAZ in the show. They are this priceless rod, jo Shivaay par padega, and Anika will not have to do a thing...Bina ungli uthaye, Kapoors uska kaam kar rahe hai</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shivaay blamed Anika for a One night stand that did not happen, Shivaay is now the father of a baby from a one night stand that never happened</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shivaay blackmailed Anika to marry him using her brother, Tia is blackmailing Shivaay to marry her using his brother</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shivaay played God with Anika's life, the Kapoors will play Satan with his</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Anika is not living there to punish Shivaay, she is living there because she loves and cares for him, and inspite of all the complaints she has against him, she cannot abandon him in the fix he is in. His family , especially his brothers whom he loves to death - often misunderstand him, inspite of all that he does for them. But Anika, understands the reasons behind his actions and that is why she understands his harsh words, and his silence.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Anika is living there for Shivaay to see, how weak he is as a person, and how much more strong she is. Anika is living there, because she knows the truth, and she hasn't succeeded in proving it, and since it is in her nature to help people, she is doing the same - helping Shivaay inspite of him being so adamant, dumb and un-co-operative.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">For instance, if it was any person in our lives, who we love a lot. Inspite of fighting, and arguments we still stick to them - be it parents or friends or anyone. We will never abandon them, even if they are being dumb</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Anika is there not to break Shivaay's ego, she is there to break his prejudices, his biases he holds so precious to him...</font>Anika is not a doormat, she is a person with varying shades in her. And baaki sab, as Rebecca said is GUL-OGY!!

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">So, that is where my opinion stands. Isse zyaada analysis mujhse nahi hoga about Anika. She is like this, and she is fictional and as we know Gul, unbelievable as well. So I am not interested in Reel vs Real, because Gul's shows never ever can apply on reality</font>


I love you for this!!!
After all its a show...evethough I don't find Anika doormat...she has been a positive inspiration. I didn't go break any1s windshield I felt the need to be presentable always & to have self love!!!
And I feel Anika still has that fire in her...he is being the ice!!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: libran90

The point you are putting across, many people here will not agree to it. But I can agree with you a bit. Anika as a character has baffled me completely. I have never met a character like her. She is not the epitome of goodness as many of us think, she also is a grey character as much as the rest in the show.

Only the shade is different than the Oberois. She is a little less, and the Oberois are a little more, and Shivaay is even more. Anika, from the time she has opened her eyes, she has been fighting with life, struggling, falling, crying, getting up and that has been the cycle ever since. But that has never ever effected her positivity, her spunk, or her optimism, which is what makes her an inspiration for some, and attraction for someonešŸ˜‰

And then she meets a broken family, where there is lots of love in the hearts but not in their expressions - as the dust of wealth, power and reputation has settled on it. She meets a stubborn, rude, mean man who breaks himself everyday, and maybe others as well, to protect his brothers, his family...

She is just a milder female version of Shivaay, who has inadvertently always protected the Oberoi family against many things, just like Shivaay does for them...

If measured, Anika is at par with Shivaay's protective instincts, power, intelligence and strength. And that is one of the main reasons for their constant tug-of-war. And they have spent quite some time with each other , to learn quite a lot about each other, to understand each other on another level. She was meant to plan his wedding, but thanks to Tia, and Shivaay's anger that she became the newest Oberoi bride..

Now, she is definitely unhappy with Shivaay, for what he has done with her. And she does fight in her own way - the only way she knows with Shivaay. But, she also has accepted that she loves the man - so she cannot hurt him also that much. And she does not need to work hard to give it back to him, cause the Kapoors are enough to do that...

Kapoors are not just NAFRATBAAZ in the show. They are this priceless rod, jo Shivaay par padega, and Anika will not have to do a thing...Bina ungli uthaye, Kapoors uska kaam kar rahe hai

Shivaay blamed Anika for a One night stand that did not happen, Shivaay is now the father of a baby from a one night stand that never happened
Shivaay blackmailed Anika to marry him using her brother, Tia is blackmailing Shivaay to marry her using his brother
Shivaay played God with Anika's life, the Kapoors will play Satan with his

Anika is not living there to punish Shivaay, she is living there because she loves and cares for him, and inspite of all the complaints she has against him, she cannot abandon him in the fix he is in. His family , especially his brothers whom he loves to death - often misunderstand him, inspite of all that he does for them. But Anika, understands the reasons behind his actions and that is why she understands his harsh words, and his silence.

Anika is living there for Shivaay to see, how weak he is as a person, and how much more strong she is. Anika is living there, because she knows the truth, and she hasn't succeeded in proving it, and since it is in her nature to help people, she is doing the same - helping Shivaay inspite of him being so adamant, dumb and un-co-operative.

For instance, if it was any person in our lives, who we love a lot. Inspite of fighting, and arguments we still stick to them - be it parents or friends or anyone. We will never abandon them, even if they are being dumb

Anika is there not to break Shivaay's ego, she is there to break his prejudices, his biases he holds so precious to him...Anika is not a doormat, she is a person with varying shades in her. And baaki sab, as Rebecca said is GUL-OGY!!

So, that is where my opinion stands. Isse zyaada analysis mujhse nahi hoga about Anika. She is like this, and she is fictional and as we know Gul, unbelievable as well. So I am not interested in Reel vs Real, because Gul's shows never ever can apply on reality


Brilliant! Well analysed & well put.šŸ‘
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Posted: 9 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: libran90


The point you are putting across, many people here will not agree to it. But I can agree with you a bit. Anika as a character has baffled me completely. I have never met a character like her. She is not the epitome of goodness as many of us think, she also is a grey character as much as the rest in the show.

Only the shade is different than the Oberois. She is a little less, and the Oberois are a little more, and Shivaay is even more. Anika, from the time she has opened her eyes, she has been fighting with life, struggling, falling, crying, getting up and that has been the cycle ever since. But that has never ever effected her positivity, her spunk, or her optimism, which is what makes her an inspiration for some, and attraction for someonešŸ˜‰

And then she meets a broken family, where there is lots of love in the hearts but not in their expressions - as the dust of wealth, power and reputation has settled on it. She meets a stubborn, rude, mean man who breaks himself everyday, and maybe others as well, to protect his brothers, his family...

She is just a milder female version of Shivaay, who has inadvertently always protected the Oberoi family against many things, just like Shivaay does for them...

If measured, Anika is at par with Shivaay's protective instincts, power, intelligence and strength. And that is one of the main reasons for their constant tug-of-war. And they have spent quite some time with each other , to learn quite a lot about each other, to understand each other on another level. She was meant to plan his wedding, but thanks to Tia, and Shivaay's anger that she became the newest Oberoi bride..

Now, she is definitely unhappy with Shivaay, for what he has done with her. And she does fight in her own way - the only way she knows with Shivaay. But, she also has accepted that she loves the man - so she cannot hurt him also that much. And she does not need to work hard to give it back to him, cause the Kapoors are enough to do that...

Kapoors are not just NAFRATBAAZ in the show. They are this priceless rod, jo Shivaay par padega, and Anika will not have to do a thing...Bina ungli uthaye, Kapoors uska kaam kar rahe hai

Shivaay blamed Anika for a One night stand that did not happen, Shivaay is now the father of a baby from a one night stand that never happened
Shivaay blackmailed Anika to marry him using her brother, Tia is blackmailing Shivaay to marry her using his brother
Shivaay played God with Anika's life, the Kapoors will play Satan with his

Anika is not living there to punish Shivaay, she is living there because she loves and cares for him, and inspite of all the complaints she has against him, she cannot abandon him in the fix he is in. His family , especially his brothers whom he loves to death - often misunderstand him, inspite of all that he does for them. But Anika, understands the reasons behind his actions and that is why she understands his harsh words, and his silence.

Anika is living there for Shivaay to see, how weak he is as a person, and how much more strong she is. Anika is living there, because she knows the truth, and she hasn't succeeded in proving it, and since it is in her nature to help people, she is doing the same - helping Shivaay inspite of him being so adamant, dumb and un-co-operative.

For instance, if it was any person in our lives, who we love a lot. Inspite of fighting, and arguments we still stick to them - be it parents or friends or anyone. We will never abandon them, even if they are being dumb

Anika is there not to break Shivaay's ego, she is there to break his prejudices, his biases he holds so precious to him...Anika is not a doormat, she is a person with varying shades in her. And baaki sab, as Rebecca said is GUL-OGY!!

So, that is where my opinion stands. Isse zyaada analysis mujhse nahi hoga about Anika. She is like this, and she is fictional and as we know Gul, unbelievable as well. So I am not interested in Reel vs Real, because Gul's shows never ever can apply on reality


How is Anita grey ...I fail to understand your explanation. ..Because she breaks things she's grey lol
A little less grey that Oberois hmm ...Has she threatened Shiva y into marrying her ..
Has she blackmailed with shivays brother's life a bait...I dont think so
So your explanation of she's grey ( if not as much a shivay )so she is a match for him sits well with Tia actually
Because she did what shivay did
Tricked him into marrying her ...Blackmailed if not directly using.his brother as bait

So bottom line shivay and Tia make the right pair as per the flawed logic

Now my issue with us as viewers and Gul as maker ...Tia as a perfect wife cos of her imperfection is unthinkable
But a perfect wife whiter than white is perfectly fine ...For s male character of Tia ...Yeah she can be flawed to the extend of breaking glasses and owning other people s crimes.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1


How is Anita grey ...I fail to understand your explanation. ..Because she breaks things she's grey lol
A little less grey that Oberois hmm ...Has she threatened Shiva y into marrying her ..
Has she blackmailed with shivays brother's life a bait...I dont think so
So your explanation of she's grey ( if not as much a shivay )so she is a match for him sits well with Tia actually
Because she did what shivay did
Tricked him into marrying her ...Blackmailed if not directly using.his brother as bait

So bottom line shivay and Tia make the right pair as per the flawed logic

Now my issue with us as viewers and Gul as maker ...Tia as a perfect wife cos of her imperfection is unthinkable
But a perfect wife whiter than white is perfectly fine ...For s male character of Tia ...Yeah she can be flawed to the extend of breaking glasses and owning other people s crimes.


Anika's character is not grey??...Really??...In this world every person is grey, nobody is pure black or white...And in this show every character is grey...even OmRu...only the shades of white and black are different.

Doing bad things like Shivaay and Tia only does not constitute as grey...doing good things by sacrificing your dignity and self-respect also constitutes as grey...

Calling yourself the patni of a man who blackmailed and literally dragged you into marriage makes Anika grey...

Having patni vs saut fights over a man who has not accepted you as his wife before the world makes her grey...

Forcing her into a divorce, and she staying in Oberoi mansion even if its for helping Shivaay makes her grey...

Disrespecting yourself for someone you love makes her grey

Talking about truth and honesty and lying about an accident, escaping from situations and not facing them, makes Omkara grey...

Getting married to a woman, and hiding it from your family, and treating it as joke, makes Rudra grey

Oscillating like a pendulum and believing anybody just like that without concrete proof makes Pinky grey

Putting business and power ahead of relationships, and making a mockery out of marriage makes Tej grey

Doing nasty stuff, hiding it and then turning spiritual out of guilt makes Shakti grey

Not fighting for your marriage, for your kids and turning into an alchoholic makes Jhanvi grey

Being a woman, and not understanding the pain of Anika, and requesting her to fulfill duties of a wife for a man like Shivaay, makes Dadi grey

Priyanka is grey, because she is a weak willed woman who does not have the guts to accept I did something wrong, and letting your brother take the blame, seeing him suffer, not taking a stand for Anika when Shivaay humiliated her for the 'Dev' incident makes her grey...

But in all of them, the shade is more white and less dark

But if we look at Tia or Svetlana or Romi or Shivaay...they are grey, but they are more dark and less white
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90


Anika's character is not grey??...Really??...In this world every person is grey, nobody is pure black or white...And in this show every character is grey...even OmRu...only the shades of white and black are different.

Doing bad things like Shivaay and Tia only does not constitute as grey...doing good things by sacrificing your dignity and self-respect also constitutes as grey...

Calling yourself the patni of a man who blackmailed and literally dragged you into marriage makes Anika grey...

Having patni vs saut fights over a man who has not accepted you as his wife before the world makes her grey...

Forcing her into a divorce, and she staying in Oberoi mansion even if its for helping Shivaay makes her grey...

Disrespecting yourself for someone you love makes her grey

Talking about truth and honesty and lying about an accident, escaping from situations and not facing them, makes Omkara grey...

Getting married to a woman, and hiding it from your family, and treating it as joke, makes Rudra grey

Oscillating like a pendulum and believing anybody just like that without concrete proof makes Pinky grey

Putting business and power ahead of relationships, and making a mockery out of marriage makes Tej grey

Doing nasty stuff, hiding it and then turning spiritual out of guilt makes Shakti grey

Not fighting for your marriage, for your kids and turning into an alchoholic makes Jhanvi grey

Being a woman, and not understanding the pain of Anika, and requesting her to fulfill duties of a wife for a man like Shivaay, makes Dadi grey

Priyanka is grey, because she is a weak willed woman who does not have the guts to accept I did something wrong, and letting your brother take the blame, seeing him suffer, not taking a stand for Anika when Shivaay humiliated her for the 'Dev' incident makes her grey...

But in all of them, the shade is more white and less dark

But if we look at Tia or Svetlana or Romi or Shivaay...they are grey, but they are more dark and less white

If every one is grey then the explanation.of a perfect match since both are flaw Ed does not hold true ...

When we say grey ...Means relative not a general classification of all human beings characteristic vis God's
White is not opposite of wronged ...It's opposite of wrong

Or a victim is called weak or a coward ( in this case) and a n offender black or grey


Edited by tttttt1 - 9 years ago

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