Are women going backwards?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I am not going into statistical figures. I will post some random thoughts:

Once women were treated objects men need to breed. They were given clothes, food and jewelry to be satisfied. Centuries later some brave souls dared to ask for rights of education, to vote, to work out with men and to be more than an object.

Now years later I see less and less driven women. Women are again being objects of pleasure. Women in skimpy clothes, being the apple of men's eyes 🤢 High school kids getting pregnant, dropping out and then fighting to be accepted...more and more young marriages and then broken families.

I see a big difference between my mom's generation and our generation. They were more modern and successful in any sense. We are just choosing the wrong definition of being modern.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hmm, for this I wouldnt blame only the society.. Women are equally responsible for it.. When they have proper education facilities and the whole world has now started viewing things in different angle, why should women keep quiet??

None has compelled them to wear skimpy clothes!!! They can always say No.. The the world would also start viewing them in the way the women want them to be!! They can always protest against it!! But none comes forward because these days money has become more talkative!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: samir_soni

I am not going into statistical figures. I will post some random thoughts:

That's the problem right there. Without statistical figures these are just your own perceptions and not necessarily the truth. Here are my own perceptions on your perceptions.

Originally posted by: samir_soni

Once women were treated objects men need to breed. They were given clothes, food and jewelry to be satisfied. Centuries later some brave souls dared to ask for rights of education, to vote, to work out with men and to be more than an object.

Now years later I see less and less driven women. Women are again being objects of pleasure. Women in skimpy clothes, being the apple of men's eyes 🤢 High school kids getting pregnant, dropping out and then fighting to be accepted...more and more young marriages and then broken families.

You see women being less driven over the years, I see more and more women attaining positions that previously were reserved only for men. You see women in skimpy clothes, I see women who know what they want (even if it is skimpy clothing) and are not afraid to get it. You see high school kids getting pregnant, I see strong women emerge out of it who know they do not need a man to raise the child that they want to keep, so what if the man abandoned her when she got pregnant? You see broken families, I see strong minded women who know better than to stay within a man when the relationship is just not working...a woman who is not dependant on the man nor the marriage for her own survival.

The difference you see is simply in our perceptions.

Originally posted by: samir_soni

I see a big difference between my mom's generation and our generation. They were more modern and successful in any sense. We are just choosing the wrong definition of being modern.

I also see a difference between my mum's generation and my own. My own mother gave up her law degree and a thriving career to raise a family because she felt obligated to place us first in her life (dont want to go into the circumstances that made her feel obligated). She made sacrifices which cost her her own life, her own independence. As a result, today my mum is financially and emotionally dependant on her family. Modern and successful? I'd hardly call it that. While I love my mum with all my heart, I'd never want to end up as she did. Which is why I've always strived for my own financial and emotional independance. I've worked for pay ever since the age of 18. I've always made the major decisions in my life...what I want to study, what career I want to step into, who I want to date. I dont know about the successful part (I have my own definition of success) but modern...yup, I'd call myself modern alright. And I see nothing wrong with it.

Once again, my perception is different from your own.

The bottomline is, you cannot stereotype a generation and draw your perceptions from the stereotype. Our mother's generations had all sorts of women and so does our own generation. Look at the strong women, though that have come out of both generations, and draw your inspiration from them.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I wouldn't say women are "going backwards" in the sense that they're being suppressed. Socially they're accepted (in most places) as equal to men.

Women have the freedom and as Anu.Rad pointed out it's the way some women choose to use that freedom. I could just as easily use a man and throw him aside like yesterdays garbage, I've got the freedom to do that. Hardly something that could've even been thought of as ethical back in the day. Women aren't being forced to do these things, they choose to do it and that makes a world of a difference between women of the past and women of today.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: samir_soni

I am not going into statistical figures. I will post some random thoughts:

Once women were treated objects men need to breed. They were given clothes, food and jewelry to be satisfied. Centuries later some brave souls dared to ask for rights of education, to vote, to work out with men and to be more than an object. and now they have to get their own jewelry , clothes and food.😕

Now years later I see less and less driven women. Women are again being objects of pleasure. Women in skimpy clothes, being the apple of men's eyes ..the attention once we had is no longer bestowed hence attention getting tricks. 🤢 High school kids getting pregnant, dropping out and then fighting to be accepted...more and more young marriages and then broken families. men can be blamed equally for all that.

I see a big difference between my mom's generation and our generation. They were more modern and successful in any sense. We are just choosing the wrong definition of being modern. Being independent does not necessarily mean being modern. modern means making choices that are not selfish but made for greater good.😊

Edited by lighthouse - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I think i kinda agree excepting a small percentage of women, the new found freedom from perceived shackles of culture is more like primitive tribal dance.. so i want to agree they are going backwards....

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I dont think women going backwords.....But westernilization have mixed effect in indian culture esply a ordinery indian women,Talking specifically about Indian women, position, lifestyle, dressing etc. Etc. Has changed drastically. Half a century ago no one might have even thought of her position today.. 😊

The good points ...indian women has emerged as a technicaly,accadiemicaly educated and decision making member of the family. she more exposed with outside world,got lots of polical awareness and participating or involving in politics. 😳

She emerged as a fighter rather than a suferer... 😳

negetive...Rapid changes of fashion and outfits late night parties, clubs and 100s of harrazment cases...These kind of things make loosing our culture and tradition. 😕
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Since when does modern = lack of culture?
I am so sick of men stereotyping modern women who have a flair for fashion as lacking culture. For that matter, I'm also sick of women who party always being typecast as the vamps in every hindi soap opera. And so what if a woman dresses "skimpy"...ever thought that the woman might just be dressing for comfort...and what has dressing or partying got to do with culture? And does that wacky theory extend to men as well? That men how go around bare chested and enjoy clubbing equally lack culture? Geeeez. Being modern simply means embracing the new and being smart enough to know what to retain from the past.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Believe

I dont think women going backwords.....But westernilization have mixed effect in indian culture esply a ordinery indian women,Talking specifically about Indian women, position, lifestyle, dressing etc. Etc. Has changed drastically. Half a century ago no one might have even thought of her position today.. 😊

The good points ...indian women has emerged as a technicaly,accadiemicaly educated and decision making member of the family. she more exposed with outside world,got lots of polical awareness and participating or involving in politics. 😳

She emerged as a fighter rather than a suferer... 😳

negetive...Rapid changes of fashion and outfits late night parties, clubs and 100s of harrazment cases...These kind of things make loosing our culture and tradition. 😕

Westernization has nothing to do with women going backwards... women can be western as well as modern... but veri few can really blend culture with modernity.. most look way outlandish or too prudish...

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Westernization has nothing to do with women going backwards... women can be western as well as modern... but veri few can really blend culture with modernity.. most look way outlandish or too prudish...

Uh huh...Uh huh...I totally agree...and ditto for guys too...outlandish and prudes...

And I just feel compelled to add....go women power! yeeeah! 😆

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