The Patliputra Chronicles:A Story of Fire and Ice

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Posted: 8 years ago
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The Fire and Ice analogy is drawn from a famous poem of Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice". The poem goes like this:

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

So as we can see, "Fire" here refers to human desire while "Ice" refers to hatred. Both of them are polar opposites and powerful enough to destroy the whole world when they are left uncontrolled. But supposing both of them came into contact with each other, fire would end up being neutralized by ice. Its thirst would be quenched and it would no longer continue to burn. Similarly ice would turn into water diluting its intensity and transforming its very nature or physical state into that of cold water. I think that this will be a fantastic way to describe the love-hate relationship both our leads Chandra and Nandini share with each other. I am sure that their love story will go this way. Their desire will neutralize their hatred for each other. What do you guys think?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very good description of Robert Frost's poem
And yess Chandra is here the fire which has only one aim to conquer Magadh and destroy Nand Dynasty while Nandini will be like ice after her family distruction
So when they will meet they will neutralize each other and love will blossom
Now if there is name of Robert Frost name came I must write two lines from his poem ROAD NOT TAKEN
I Don't know whether I will be dead or alive
but I choose this path because it's make a
Difference
so here Chandra wants to make a difference that's why he choose to follow Chanakya and not unlike others that just study and earn money
Coz "ONLY THOSE PERSON DREAM BIG WHO HAVE ABILITY TO ACHIEVE IT"
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes, Chandra took the less beaten track or the path not usually taken by the others. He surely wanted to make a difference for the sake of his guru and for all those countless, nameless faces in Magadh facing Padmanand's tyranny. He does not stop to think even for a moment with questions and self doubts like "Can I?" He has such implicit confidence in his guru Chanakya that he only thinks, "If my guru thinks I can then why can't I?" It is truly inspiring to see the bond Chandra and Chanakya share with each other.

Originally posted by: ankit-pandey24

Very good description of Robert Frost's poem
And yess Chandra is here the fire which has only one aim to conquer Magadh and destroy Nand Dynasty while Nandini will be like ice after her family distruction
So when they will meet they will neutralize each other and love will blossom
Now if there is name of Robert Frost name came I must write two lines from his poem ROAD NOT TAKEN
I Don't know whether I will be dead or alive
but I choose this path because it's make a
Difference
so here Chandra wants to make a difference that's why he choose to follow Chanakya and not unlike others that just study and earn money
Coz "ONLY THOSE PERSON DREAM BIG WHO HAVE ABILITY TO ACHIEVE IT"

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Truly Beautiful.

This poem describes Chandra(fire)-Nandini(ice) relationship very neatly, like crystal.

Marvelous!👏👏👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Shailaja,

A very imaginative and interesting adaptation of the Frost poem to fit our Odd Couple.

Let me begin with a small correction. It is not "share with each other" but "will share with each other", for right now there is nothing between them, bar perhaps anger on both sides. Hatred is a very strong emotion, and that will, I think,be triggered in Chandra vis a vis Nandini only when he learns the whole gory story of how her father murdered his father, made him a de facto orphan, and ruined his mother's life. That avalanche of hatred will bury Nandini just a surely as it will destroy Padmanand.

Secondly, fire too can represent hate, whatever Frost might say. I feel, in fact, that hatred is more like an all consuming fire than ice that only freezes the heart. And fire, if hot enough, can completely evaporate ice. It is all a question of intensity.

Thirdly, the term desire is nowadays, mostly used for physical desire, when it is not the ugly L word that I detest. I do not think the Chandragupta-Nandini love story will, when it moves away, at long last, from mutual hatred, begin with desire. It will be romantic love. At least I hope so.

Shyamala Aunty

NB: Whatever the course of this amar prem gaatha, the fact remains that Chandragupta's first queen, and the mother of his heir, Bindusara, was not Nandini, but another woman, Durdhara, She died when her son was born, that being a bizarre story that you, as an old CAS hand, would know. They have cast someone for that role, which was described as a grey one.

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

The Fire and Ice analogy is drawn from a famous poem of Robert Frost, "Fire and Ice". The poem goes like this:

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

So as we can see, "Fire" here refers to human desire while "Ice" refers to hatred. Both of them are polar opposites and powerful enough to destroy the whole world when they are left uncontrolled. But supposing both of them came into contact with each other, fire would end up being neutralized by ice. Its thirst would be quenched and it would no longer continue to burn. Similarly ice would turn into water diluting its intensity and transforming its very nature or physical state into that of cold water. I think that this will be a fantastic way to describe the love-hate relationship both our leads Chandra and Nandini share with each other. I am sure that their love story will go this way. Their desire will neutralize their hatred for each other. What do you guys think?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you for the appreciation!

Originally posted by: khalessi75

Truly Beautiful.

This poem describes Chandra(fire)-Nandini(ice) relationship very neatly, like crystal.

Marvelous!👏👏👏

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Another very interesting and exhaustive analysis, Aunty. Often, none of us have anything left to say after you have given your final word. Loved your take on this poem and CN as well.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My dear Shailaja,

A very imaginative and interesting adaptation of the Frost poem to fit our Odd Couple.

Let me begin with a small correction. It is not "share with each other" but "will share with each other", for right now there is nothing between them, bar perhaps anger on both sides. Hatred is a very strong emotion, and that will, I think,be triggered in Chandra vis a vis Nandini only when he learns the whole gory story of how her father murdered his father, made him a de facto orphan, and ruined his mother's life. That avalanche of hatred will bury Nandini just a surely as it will destroy Padmanand.

Secondly, fire too can represent hate, whatever Frost might say. I feel, in fact, that hatred is more like an all consuming fire than ice that only freezes the heart. And fire, if hot enough, can completely evaporate ice. It is all a question of intensity.

Thirdly, the term desire is nowadays, mostly used for physical desire, when it is not the ugly L word that I detest. I do not think the Chandragupta-Nandini love story will, when it moves away, at long last, from mutual hatred, begin with desire. It will be romantic love. At least I hope so.

Shyamala Aunty

NB: Whatever the course of this amar prem gaatha, the fact remains that Chandragupta's first queen, and the mother of his heir, Bindusara, was not Nandini, but another woman, Durdhara, She died when her son was born, that being a bizarre story that you, as an old CAS hand, would know. They have cast someone for that role, which was described as a grey one.


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