Films with Pak actors to pay 5 crores to URI Martyrs:MNS - Page 14

Originally posted by: MadOwhat

@Sabhyata

Point 1 - Democratic

You are going in spirals...you primarily wanted to know how it is democratic

The simple answer is the deal was brokered through a dialogue between the stakeholders...There was CM and Mukesh as arbitrators...If he has agreed to it in the meeting, it is implied that it has his consent.

If you think MNS threat influenced it ...then lets look at history...he has experience of facing such threats in the past without any implication...so what was different this time ?

I dont want to get into the loop of what MNS did, why who, when etc...have already explained in other post...besides it is irrelevant on this point

Point 2 - National sentiment

Since there is no referendum...National sentiment becomes subjective...Its my prerogative to make my choice...I view a huge national sentiment ...and hence in my view KJo should have respected that sentiment and reshot ...instead of wasting time and resources.

LOL i am not going in spirals i just answered your previous post point by point.But chalo let it be

Point 1

So you mean you don't think MNS threat led to his consent.So why did Kjo agree? Because he always wanted to donate money or some other reason?Kjo never showed any intention to donate money before only now.So for me its pretty obvious its because MNS threatened violence and he wants safe release for his movie which is not democratic.If you think there is some other reason for his consent then i would like to what is the the other reason as per you?

Regarding dialogue between stakeholders, well dialogue is between two parties in which one has threatened violence against the product of other party.


Point 2

National sentiment like you said is subjective .So personally i dont think there is any national sentiment against Pakistani actors .

Like i said previously, personally wen i judge situation b putting myself in other people's shoes.Again same example i have business amd have employed Pakistani's for the same.Then some political party with no legal rights threatens me with violence asking me to firstly destroy the product made by my Pakistani employees and then invest my time and money again to do the same thing.Would i do it ?No .Why?Because me and neither my employees have done anything wrong.And i would never bow down to unreasonable demands if have not made any mistakes.But that me so i don't expect Kjo do to the same.

As simple as that

Originally posted by: ponymo

This is bullying plain and simple. Karan or anyone else isn't obligated to donate.

I would like to know how much MNS is donating first.

Army men say, they only accept the money which are voluntary donations, not extortion.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

LOL i am not going in spirals i just answered your previous post point by point.But chalo let it be

Point 1

So you mean you don't think MNS threat led to his consent.So why did Kjo agree? Because he always wanted to donate money or some other reason?Kjo never showed any intention to donate money before only now.So for me its pretty obvious its because MNS threatened violence and he wants safe release for his movie which is not democratic.If you think there is some other reason for his consent then i would like to what is the the other reason as per you?

Regarding dialogue between stakeholders, well dialogue is between two parties in which one has threatened violence against the product of other party.


Point 2

National sentiment like you said is subjective .So personally i dont think there is any national sentiment against Pakistani actors .

Like i said previously, personally wen i judge situation b putting myself in other people's shoes.Again same example i have business amd have employed Pakistani's for the same.Then some political party with no legal rights threatens me with violence asking me to firstly destroy the product made by my Pakistani employees and then invest my time and money again to do the same thing.Would i do it ?No .Why?Because me and neither my employees have done anything wrong.And i would never bow down to unreasonable demands if have not made any mistakes.But that me so i don't expect Kjo do to the same.

As simple as that

Originally posted by: flipfl0p

Army men say, they only accept the money which are voluntary donations, not extortion.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Dont-politicise-the-armed-forces-Army-slams-MNS-for-penance-fund-from-Ae-Dil-Hai-Mushkil-producers/articleshow/55002482.cms

Respect.

That's exactly what i said and thought they'd do. nobody accepts khairat.

Originally posted by: MadOwhat

LOL i am not going in spirals i just answered your previous post point by point.But chalo let it be

Point 1

So you mean you don't think MNS threat led to his consent.So why did Kjo agree? Because he always wanted to donate money or some other reason?Kjo never showed any intention to donate money before only now.So for me its pretty obvious its because MNS threatened violence and he wants safe release for his movie which is not democratic.If you think there is some other reason for his consent then i would like to what is the the other reason as per you?

Regarding dialogue between stakeholders, well dialogue is between two parties in which one has threatened violence against the product of other party.


Point 2

National sentiment like you said is subjective .So personally i dont think there is any national sentiment against Pakistani actors .

Like i said previously, personally wen i judge situation b putting myself in other people's shoes.Again same example i have business amd have employed Pakistani's for the same.Then some political party with no legal rights threatens me with violence asking me to firstly destroy the product made by my Pakistani employees and then invest my time and money again to do the same thing.Would i do it ?No .Why?Because me and neither my employees have done anything wrong.And i would never bow down to unreasonable demands if have not made any mistakes.But that me so i don't expect Kjo do to the same.

As simple as that

hmm i think i already answered the question but let me clarify again.

Kjo actually did feel threatened ,he actually did think there would be violence and hence wanted safe release for his movie.May be other times he thought they were hollow but not this time.Because i see no other reason why he would agree to donate.He has never shown any intention to donate before so why now.Because he feels if he doesn't agree to these conditions there will be violence


Now can you please answer my question

Why do you think Kjo's consent wasn't because of these threats?What is the other reason as per you for Kjo's consent?

Our views on National sentiment our different yes.But my point was put ourselves in kjo's shoes and see.If i put myself in his shoes i would do the same.What about you?Would you have invested time ,money and resources again when you have done nothing wrong in the first place?If yes then kudos to to you.If no then i don't think you should really expect it from another person.Its easier to say do this and do that when we are not the effected party.

No can you please answer my both questions.

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