The Patliputra Chronicles: Seeing through three women in Patliputra

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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is not an episode discussion post. It is about three important women characters,Nandini, Avantika and Moora, in Patliputra, and the way they think and act and an attempt to decipher why they think and act like that. At present, I have written only about Moora. My perspective on Nandini and Avantika will be updated soon in the same post after I see more of them in the coming episodes.

Moora: Mera Putra Aayega

We have seen the varied shades of this brave lady. Her love for her husband, her love for the son whom she left behind as a new born, a resilient fighter who does not give up hope even in the face of tremendous odds and can find it in her to give a fitting reply to the tyrant Padmanand who torments her at times due to his desire for her, at times for her refusal to fall in line with his wishes, at times for the very many ways in which she reminds him of his impending doom, etc.

She is like the corrosive acid in Padmanand's stomach. She eats away his vitals with her vitriolic outpourings and yet he cannot or will not get rid of her. Because if he gets rid of her, his entire appetite will collapse due to indigestion. Okay, now jokes apart, both Moora and Nand are highly toxic to each other but will not let each other go as one person's ego will not let him forget his failure to win the juiciest fruit he ever aspired and which forever remained out of his reach, and this lady's inexorable quest for revenge which seeks its fulfillment even at the cost of suffering to an innocent girl who is in no way connected to whatever happened in the past to her or her family.

Moora can countenance to see Nandini in pain if at all it causes pain to her tormentor Nand. She is a collateral damage in a war that is inevitable. Just as children enjoy the inheritance, and luxuries earned for them by their parents, they occasionally pay for the sins and mistakes committed by their parents.

We can understand and sympathize with everything she has been through. There would perhaps be none who would not want to see her reunited with her long-lost child, Chandra. Then why does she refuse to go with Chandra when he tells that he would help her to escape. She keeps telling "Mera Putra Aayega" again and again.

But when he comes in front of her two times, she does not recognize him. It would have seemed positively stupid to many of us when she keeps repeating these words again and again. How would the poor chap, her long lost son, even know what his history is if she did not find him and tell him about it? She should have been looking for her chance all this while to escape from Nand and find her son. At least she should have been on the lookout to examine the necks and hands of the blessed few she meets in the prison in the same age group as her son for that dratted crescent moon locket and tattoo of the peacock feather. That would have been the logical thing anyone in her place would have done.

But she chooses to remain behind in prison reminding one of Sita in Ramayana! I can see it only as her positive and self-righteous insanity of motherhood! Her single minded hope and belief that it is her son's destiny to bring about Nand's downfall is truly unnerving and at the same time exasperating. Sri Ram at least had a few clues to work on to exactly figure out what happened to Sita. The poor child whom she abandoned has no chance of knowing unless she tells him.

She holds the clue to his past, present and future, but she stays put wherever she is, hallucinating and deluding herself that he is going to come to take her. Why he even came and wanted to take her with him, but she does not go because she does not recognize him! Destiny favors the brave and those who help her. I can only say to the poor lady, "Help destiny to help you."
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Posted: 8 years ago
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such a wonderful rendition...👏👏👏

& these lines below are the ultimate truth , very well put 😳


Originally posted by: shailusri1983


She is a collateral damage in a war that is inevitable. Just as children enjoy the inheritance, and luxuries earned for them by their parents, they occasionally pay for the sins and mistakes committed by their parents.

Edited by cute.manasi - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: cute.manasi

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">such a wonderful rendition...👏👏👏</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">& these lines below are the ultimate truth , very well put😳</font>





Thank you! Children of criminals or rowdies who might not be criminals or rowdies themselves, and very good human beings to boot face this all the time. They are discriminated and castigated for the crimes of their parents. Sad, but that's how the world works! We do inherit both the good and bad actions of our parents just like their genes. Just as we cannot choose the genes with which we are born, we cannot change the actions or Karma for whatever our parents did, both good and bad. There are times when children have to answer or face the consequences for their parents' deeds. It is like an Agni Pariksha they have to give to prove their own self worth or mettle.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wonderful analysis of Moora,Shailushri.
I adore and respect Moora for being strong all these years.Her whole life changed in one night.

She lost her husband, her newborn baby all because of Padmanand.

She's not a weak lady.She never gave up in spite of lot of tortures,emotional blackmails,etc.,by Padmanand.

Neither did she commit suicide like a coward nor she gave in to Padmanand's desires.

These are the only qualities that are worth appreciating about her.

But at the same time she has been living in delusions that her son will come back,take revenge from Padmanand and free her.

How?How can she be so confident about it?

I find that too impractical.

What if her son is living his own life somewhere else,thinking that his foster parents are his real parents?

What if he doesn't have the guts,interest or will to fight with Padmanand?

How come she doesn't think about all these?

I agree all these happens in only serials and films so we shouldn't use our brain and buddhi but still it looks highly illogical.

The woman who has this firm confidence that her son will rescue her,couldn't even recognize her son,not once but twice.And then he indeed wanted to rescue her but she didn't go because she didn't recognize him.Funny!




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good analysis of Mura character shailusri
Yess it's seems illogical that why didn't she took chance of escaping from prison so that she can search her lost son Chandra
If she will not search and tell him the truth of his identity and his past how she can imagine Chandra will come and take revenge of injustice to them
He is not god or astrologer so that he can know this by own
For some time we imagine that if he would have not got the help and Gyan from Chanakya would he ever came to PP or if would have come only for earning money not for revenge
Then how she can thought that he would come and take her with SAMMAN from prison?

P.S- how will I address you, with your name or something else?
I ask everyone about this so please give a reply for this
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That's why I said that hers is a self-righteous and insane motherhood! Is destiny so very powerful that even when she doesn't do her own bit of the work, things will just come to pass? I have not yet touched the other two ladies but I want to see more of them before I come to any conclusion about them.

Originally posted by: .Subha.

Wonderful analysis of Moora,Shailushri.

I adore and respect Moora for being strong all these years.Her whole life changed in one night.

She lost her husband, her newborn baby all because of Padmanand.

She's not a weak lady.She never gave up in spite of lot of tortures,emotional blackmails,etc.,by Padmanand.

Neither did she commit suicide like a coward nor she gave in to Padmanand's desires.

These are the only qualities that are worth appreciating about her.

But at the same time she has been living in delusions that her son will come back,take revenge from Padmanand and free her.

How?How can she be so confident about it?

I find that too impractical.

What if her son is living his own life somewhere else,thinking that his foster parents are his real parents?

What if he doesn't have the guts,interest or will to fight with Padmanand?

How come she doesn't think about all these?

I agree all these happens in only serials and films so we shouldn't use our brain and buddhi but still it looks highly illogical.

The woman who has this firm confidence that her son will rescue her,couldn't even recognize her son,not once but twice.And then he indeed wanted to rescue her but she didn't go because she didn't recognize him.Funny!




Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit-pandey24

Good analysis of Mura character shailusri
Yess it's seems illogical that why didn't she took chance of escaping from prison so that she can search her lost son Chandra
If she will not search and tell him the truth of his identity and his past how she can imagine Chandra will come and take revenge of injustice to them
He is not god or astrologer so that he can know this by own
For some time we imagine that if he would have not got the help and Gyan from Chanakya would he ever came to PP or if would have come only for earning money not for revenge
Then how she can thought that he would come and take her with SAMMAN from prison?

P.S- how will I address you, with your name or something else?
I ask everyone about this so please give a reply for this

Sometimes I feel if Chandra would have been happy with his parents, if he had got his parents love and care then he would have never been so revolutionary.The fact that his father used to torture him and his mother would silently bear all the tortures of her husband made him unhappy and that's why he left them and he went with Chanakya.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I wanted to shake this lady out of her dream world. It is not as if Chandra will get a dream and immediately come to take her. If she is not going to do her duty by escaping, finding her son and telling him the entire story, how will he even get into the act. In that conversation with Chandra if she had said, "I will not come with you now as you seem to have a great aim in mind and I will be a needless distraction and liability for now. Escape from here now because it is imperative for you to go to fulfill your great aim whatever it is. If you can come back some opportune moment in future when you are free for me and can set me free I will be duly grateful to you." If she had said so my respect for her would have risen but what does she mouth, "Mera Putra Aayega aur Samman ke Saath le Jayega"? How delusional is that! You can call me as Shailaja!

Originally posted by: ankit-pandey24

Good analysis of Mura character shailusri
Yess it's seems illogical that why didn't she took chance of escaping from prison so that she can search her lost son Chandra
If she will not search and tell him the truth of his identity and his past how she can imagine Chandra will come and take revenge of injustice to them
He is not god or astrologer so that he can know this by own
For some time we imagine that if he would have not got the help and Gyan from Chanakya would he ever came to PP or if would have come only for earning money not for revenge
Then how she can thought that he would come and take her with SAMMAN from prison?

P.S- how will I address you, with your name or something else?
I ask everyone about this so please give a reply for this

Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Subha.


Sometimes I feel if Chandra would have been happy with his parents, if he had got his parents love and care then he would have never been so revolutionary.The fact that his father used to torture him and his mother would silently bear all the tortures of her husband made him unhappy and that's why he left them and he went with Chanakya.



Agree
As you can see in any great historical personality life like CGM ,ASHOK ,AKBAR , CHANAKYA ,PRC , MP ,SHIVAJI etc each one had faced toughest challenges in there life and that made them stronger from inside coz "IF YOU WILL NOT FALL YOU CAN NEVER RISE"
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Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I wanted to shake this lady out of her dream world. It is not as if Chandra will get a dream and immediately come to take her. If she is not going to do her duty by escaping, finding her son and telling him the entire story, how will he even get into the act. In that conversation with Chandra if she had said, "I will not come with you now as you seem to have a great aim in mind and I will be a needless distraction and liability for now. Escape from here now because it is imperative for you to go to fulfill your great aim whatever it is. If you can come back some opportune moment in future when you are free for me and can set me free I will be duly grateful to you." If she had said so my respect for her would have risen but what does she mouth, "Mera Putra Aayega aur Samman ke Saath ke Jayega"? How delusional is that!.


I think she is behaving like this coz this is an Indian show and especially of ekta and she know that one day her Chandra will become king of Magadh and she will recognize him and both son-mom will unite and Chandra will free her from prison with SAMMAN , so why to give trouble to her legs and minds 😉

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