why is ishwari against dev's marriage?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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after the epi...i feel ishwari is being unfair to dev...she quickly accepts neha's love for ranveer and marriage...but when it comes to dev...she is so unhappy and against it...yes i agree she told dev to think abt himself...take a decision of his own regarding marriage but deep down she is not happy with dev's marriage...she wants dev to reject it...i don't understand why being so unfair to dev...can't she see that dev is so lonely and he needs a lifelong companion to support him..take care of him...share his happiness...love him...understand him...being a friend to him...when she can see neha's twinkling shinning eyes why can't she see lonely dev...what kind of a life does she want for dev...24/7 his life revolves around her...what will happen to dev when one day she is no more...neha will not be there...niki-riya will not be there...everyone is settled...does she ever think abt the future...how will he live when there is noone for him...
sometimes i feel...she doesn't understand her own son...what he wants in life...she loves him..no doubt...but she doesn't care abt his happiness...dev is no more a kid...he is grown up matured young man..his age is up for settling down in marriage...how long will he take responsibilities...doesn't he have the right to think abt himself...she does know the outer layer of dev...that remains till he comes back home safe and sound...but she doesn't know his inner turmoil...his loneliness..his restlessness...which he suffering in his room w/o sleep...and heal it with sleeping tablets...does she even know dev's suffering in loneliness in his bedroom...he seems to be the silent cheerful guy...but deep down he is very lonely and he needs a wife to take care of his needs...be it mental...emotional and physical...

it seems like ishwari doesn't trust her son...the fear that once his wife enters his life...she will be thrown out of dev's life...little does she know that dev knows how to balance b/w his wife and mother...she loves her son but doesn't trust him

what are your views guys...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@TM: ishwari is not bad mother in fact she is good mother but with flaws like everyone human being . So for me she is grey and that is very realistic and practical character .
Why Ishwari is scared of DEV getting married ?
It is related to her insecurities, her fear of loosing son whom she loved the most . Believe me every mother in this universe has this insecurity, the degree can be low or high depending upon the individual.

Ishwari is not against of DEV marriage with Natasha currently but she has little bit fear and somewhere she knows it very well that Dev- Natasha bonding can never be equal to dev- Ishwari bonding .Natasha doesn't have that much power to come to close to DEv heart and soul . But But when she will come to know about Dev- Sona she will definitely oppose it with force because she knows Sona very well and even she can predict the bonding between Dev- Sona will be at equal par with Dev - Ishwari bond . I guess that time her insecurities will be at highest level .
Even Dev will be at difficult position because on side mother other side love of your life .
It is not always to simple to choose one person .
More than anyone I will sympathise with Dev character because in whatever is circumstance he wI'll loose this battle no matter what .

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree.

Actually, in that sense, I sometimes think Neha is the lucky one.

Dev got all the attention and love but not sure if it is worth it.

In fact, I actually want Neha to say this to Ishwari one day and support Devakshi.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is one flashback scene which reflects Ishwari's dilemma about Dev's marriage. She was happy to hear 9yr old Dev say that he would never get married as it might lead to separation between mother and son. And she wants Dev to remember this promise.
She has always loved Dev more than his sisters and she has invested her entire life for his well being, so even the thought of Dev's marriage brings out the insecurities in her. She often talks about how Dev will be her sahara now that she is old and Dev's priorities would always be his family, and not any other girl.

Neha is the only one who understands this mother-son relationship. She has suffered her whole life due to this. One of Neha's dialogues explains it all - Bhaiya godhi tab chadegha, jab Ma ki godi se utarega. Ma ne kabhi apni khud ki betiyon ko unke aur bhai ke beech aane nahi diya, toh kisi aur ki beti ko kaise aane degi.

You are very right when you say that Neha is lucky this way, she can atleast marry a person she loves. Not like Dev who got all the love and affection from his mother but when the time would come for his love life, Ishwari would not be happy. Even now she wants Dev to reject Nat's proposal but she can't openly tell that to him. She wants Dev to remember his promise and take the decision. Everytime they talk about Nat, Ishwari is trying to comprehend what Dev feels for Nat.

And the real reason Dev will fall for Sona is that she is the only one who has noticed his inner turmoil and understands his anxiety and restlessness. She understood his childhood struggles and tries to make him relive his lost childhood moments. Infront of her, he doesn't have to put a facade to hide his problems and loneliness. He can simply put his guard down and share his life with her.
Edited by randommusings - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Eswari loves dev more than she loves her daughters maybe be because of he is her first child ya only boy in the family. I think she feels insecure if Dev get married and her importance in his life will be less if his wife comes. I think another reason is that maybe she wants her daughters become settle first there is no guarantee that Dev wife will support her husband take care of his sisters we can see this kind of situation in real life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Actually, in one of the early episodes, Ishwari confesses that she could only afford to educate one child.
She chose Dev because he was the most intelligent of the lot and had the best chance to succeed, so that they have a good life later.

It is almost as if she was investing in a property that would provide max benefit. I somehow found that statement very weird.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is a very interesting topic. Let me try to write what I feel about this character. I love Ishwari in this show. She has such deep layers within her, each layer so entwined and complicated so much that it becomes difficult to distinguish them or separate them. Ishwari owes her life to Dev. Her life is Dev.

As @May1982 stated she has her own flaws. Everyone has. We all do. The major flaw that drives her is she her selfishness. Yes, she is. Not only her, there are a few others in the Dixit house that are core selfish.

- Dev is selfish. Didn't we see how Dev brought Sona into their life - it was due to the selfish reason where his main and only concern was to bring the best for his mom, let the rest of the world go to hell! Didn't he justify his act in his own way?

- Neha is because in her heart of hearts she knows that she liked Ranbir and wanted to take their relationship to the next level. But she did not go ahead because there were other materialistic reasons that she weighed over her emotion for Ranbir. For her, the thought that she might have to face those bad days due to the lack of financial security in Ranbir's household made her hold back her feelings. There she prioritized money over love, materialistic advantages over family and relationships. It is true that she suffered in her childhood and she never lived her childhood. She matured well before her age. That is a pain and void that cannot be corrected, filled, or relived. All she can do is fill the rest of her life with so much happiness and contentment such that the particular void is obscured in her life as much as possible. She probably will go through that transient phase soon. That is where Ranbir is going to play a major role in her life. That aside, what am trying to say is she is very selfish in that regard, isn't she? But that is very justified in a way from her POV.

- Ishwari selfish? Absolutely yes. Coming to Ishwariji, she is one strong woman and an aggressively successful mother. She lost her husband at a young age. She was left alone in this big bad world to fend for herself and her four young kids. She was so strong and brave that she wasted no time and sorted her life and position and made a clear roadmap right away. She had less education and worldly knowledge, but she was one intelligent woman and a fantastic mother. She took the reins in her hands and made the most calculative and optimal decisions with the resources she had on her hand. What did she have? Just her four children and their aspiring future. She had to invest well for the future of them and she had no choice but to invest in the best resource she had. Not to undermine others, but given the situation, she could only do that much justice so that it was a win-win for all the kids. She blindly favoured her first child. That was not to give an edge to that child's betterment alone but for the benefit of the entire family. She is one super business-minded woman and the most successful mother I would say. (Natasha must take classes from her) Over the years, while working with her son as a team, she emotionally invested more in him and became unrealistically dependent on him for all her emotional needs as the head of the family. She considered Dev the man of her house. She had to. She had to face the world and she needed his help. Even though he was a child, she could not help but expose him to the unpleasant things of real life at a very young age. She had to let him deal with lot of things that his age did not warrant, but she had no choice. All she could do was stand by him to support him from any physical damage. But somewhere in her heart she holds herself guilty and unfairly responsible for the emotional and psychic trauma that she put her son through for years. The damage that she saw happen and was party to it. This feeling of self-reproach is what making her feel very protective of her son. She wants him safe. And she thinks that she is the one who can take care of him, and anyone else might harm him. Over the years she has also become so reliant on him that she fears that she might lose her son, who according to her is her life itself. Without him, she has no life.

This has become so long and I better stop. I can go on about Ishwari. This equation between the son and mother and the freshness of Erica brought me to this show. I am eagerly waiting for this crux of the story to unfold.

Edited by daintykins - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is such a difficult question to pinpoint one answer to..

I think I have mentioned it on someone else's thread before, Ishwari reminds me of toddler who wants her toy (Dev) just to herself. It's almost like she doesn't want to share him with anyone really, in the earlier episodes we saw how jealous she got when she saw Dev dancing with Bose. It was just a dance nothing serious but she had to demonstrate to Bose that she is the end ultimatum in Devs life.

I think it might more related to her struggling days where Dev was the one she shared her sorrows with. She became so dependent upon him from such a young age, that when someone else (with the potential to take Devs attention from her) approaches Dev, she automatically goes into "Alert" mode. She doesn't realise that her son will never abandon her in any form. I dunno if this makes sense? She is very grey in my opinion

Great question though.. Really got to see how the possessiveness is justified as the show goes on.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi guys, I've been a silent member all along. I love reading all your posts.
I just couldn't hold a thought that was bothering me about Dev and Ishwari's relationship.
It reminds me of the movie 'Beta' where Anil Kapoor and Aruna Irani shared a similar bonding and he was her stepson who was her guaranteed investment for life. Though Ishwari's character is no way comparable to Aruna Irani's grey character, this may be the secret that she is scared of being revealed. Therefore, she never really wants Dev to be married.

Lol its just my wandering thought. Please do excuse my view.

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