Blast from the Past Thread #30 **The Finale... Arnav Khushi Hamesha**

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Posted: 9 years ago

#311

let's quarrel
episode 387

"toh yeh hai aapka tarika aarav ko khush karne ka, usske liye mehenge tohfe laakar?"
so this is your way of pleasing aarav... by getting him expensive toys?

"haan."
yes.

"arnav ji, aapko andaza bhi hai ki aap kya kar rahe hain?... jabh bhi woh naraz ho jaayga toh aap usske liye mehenge tofe lekar aayenge..."
arnav ji, do you know what you're doing? whenever he's angry, you'll get him expensive gifts...

"laaonga..."
i'll get...

"... toh woh paise ka mole kaise samajh paayege?!!"
then how will he know the value of money?!!

"par kya zaroorat hai... jab tak main hoon?"
what's the need as long as i'm there?

standing where you could see the water shimmering in the pool, all dressed up for diwali, they had a fight.

a nice rollicking one.

i did like.

about the only thing that felt plausible in the episode.

and asr khushi. two people into early days of marriage, much in love, but with their differences. i liked the way they were on two completely different pages on the issue. to some extent both had a point... but really, finally their ego took over. good... that's how i fight, so maybe i get that.

i was also enamoured of asr's monosyllabic assertions. and i somewhere get what he is saying. he believes aarav needs to feel comfortable, needs to be pampered, at this point. though there was no need to say that about sweets and patakas not being the only way to win a boy's heart... that was purely so writers could bring in the fight.

i also found that almost confused, what's the need for aarav to learn the value of money as long as i'm around, awfully cute. something terribly loving in it... terribly. in the words, in the tone, there's a boy who lost love suddenly;and a boy who has known overwhelming loving, from his mother in his very young days; and a boy whose father didn't do what he was meant to... who wasn't there. perhaps all of that has made the boy a man who wants to be the right kind of father, take all the responsibilities... be loving to a point that may be even silly. though i do agree with his instinct. at this point, aarav needs soft gentle abundant love, surprises like that room full of goodies... moments that erase long memories of abandonment, being alone, anaath... parentless.

as the fight progressed, the issue became you vs me. who'd smarter. who's more capable. she said just because you earn the money doesn't mean you are the only one who has a say on decisions involving money. he said, i din't say that. she said, yes, you did... and don't mock me i can earn more money than you.

i grinned. i have said exactly those words.

he looked really irritated at that... yes, he would... and flew off the handle. lovely.

he snapped back in that i am the man and i know best way... asr, you are beautifully real. he harped on himmat and confidence and intelligence, and told her she just doesn't have what it takes to face the world, make money... he even mocked her jalebi enterprise. what business can you run... exporting jalebi?

the jalebi is a lovely part of their story i have to say, used in so many ways.

he was mean. can he be that? of course, he can. and of course, he doesn't really mean it. yet, in some tiny little degree, a smidge of a measure, he really does. asr and his takniki kharabi.

she is rightly upset. i would be too... and i might, as a result of this fight, do something about the asli duniya facing slur.

but would i instantly start acting silly (supposedly cute) and think of ramesh khabri, something or the other of kamlesh khabri, and stick out my hand and say, "myself whatever...," apply strategy of self assertion on doodhwala... and other such ridiculous things?

whoever understood the sanka of khushi is no longer part of the show. i am sure of that. poor sanaya struggles with pretty awful slam dunk slap stick for the neanderthal sort of writing.

barun suffers as asr is turned into something he just isn't. yeah, he cares for his wife, yes, he has been nasty and said more than he should have, he realises that, but would he use such ridiculous tactics to get her to his office and that too while talking loudly to himself about his cute (not) ploys? all i can say is, yeah right.

i see, ridiculous has come up twice.

this is a sign. directly from kamlesh khabri. who is really upset that khushi has switched gurus.

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Horizon

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Posted: 9 years ago

#312

Originally posted by: indi52
^^^

just one thing is certain. something was terribly wrong.

blast from the past possibly saved me in ways a forum thread isn't really supposed to and ipk gave me too many good memories and grinny dhakdhak moments... got to finish this trip. the destination is exactly what i have no idea, but seems i must get there. 😆

and you're abs right, pixlr just can't take it. still on strike.

Oh Indi.. tell me tell me about it...the counselor, the intervention therapist, the vitalist , the healer, the peace giver... all that a virtual place can not be.. is not supposed to be..

When they started this back then, who thought it will be here after 3 1/2 yrs...and immense immense thanks to you .. if I ever not say that enough. I don't want to give the vote of thanks and feel the loss all over again...

Many cheers to your dedication and grit against all those odds on screen...

I see you posted 387. 398 not farther.. neither is June 6th...

May be a ...a gust of wind..a divine call..a a dupatta furl.. and a fall... not far away..

see this sanak is incurable..

😃

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Horizon

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Posted: 9 years ago

#313

slam dunk slap stick for the neanderthal sort of writing.

👏😆

so true...

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indi52

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Posted: 9 years ago

#314

Originally posted by: Horizon

Oh Indi.. tell me tell me about it...the counselor, the intervention therapist, the vitalist , the healer, the peace giver... all that a virtual place can not be.. is not supposed to be..

When they started this back then, who thought it will be here after 3 1/2 yrs...and immense immense thanks to you .. if I ever not say that enough. I don't want to give the vote of thanks and feel the loss all over again...

Many cheers to your dedication and grit against all those odds on screen...

I see you posted 387. 398 not farther.. neither is June 6th...

May be a ...a gust of wind..a divine call..a a dupatta furl.. and a fall... not far away..

see this sanak is incurable..

😃

egggjhakly, hello hi bye bye... this sanak is incurable. 😆

no need to thank me, we all keep the craziness and the thread alive. yes, a farewell coming up soon, wonder how i will feel about it.

okay, just so that i don't have to feel the emptiness suddenly, teehee, i have kept away four episodes unwritten... 4-7. post the last episode which is bound to have me yelling and screaming at the crassness of it all... i will rush back to 4 and plunge into the tum jaisi ladki times again. ha.

and indu, i have always found your posts sharp, beautiful, different, special.. hope you have made an index and kept it updated.

all this stuff on the blast, like a research paper of a flaky kind on the best serial indian television ever saw.

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indi52

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Posted: 9 years ago

#315

all ipk is a stage
episode 388

as i watched, i felt a pall of sadness, both in me and the screen i was staring at. last days i guess are never easy. that too, acrimonious last days. someone on the forum had said at the time that she had visited the sets during this phase and there was a desolate air about it... not her words, but what she'd written had made me think that. seems a girl was smoking and screaming at someone, then the director came out and there was more shouting. i sensed anger and frustration.

no matter how much make up you put on, the real picture always comes through. there are chinks in the war paint, there are hearts breaking and not exactly rabba veying. you may don red, you may want to be joker to make everyone laugh, including yourself, but the heartbreak is always the end note, the note that lingers, that got felt even when everything had been done to mask it.

in a funny twist, what arnav singh raizada had said once, seemed to be true. "iss duniya mein jisske paas paisa hai, ussike paas taqat hai... just remember that!" in this world, the one who has the money, has the power. a story that compelled us to look at love in all its names, including hate... which made us yearn to romance, made us feel the power of an emotion...of attraction... of desire that draws us toward another no matter what... that brought love centrestage, not money in a world going dizzy counting only that... such priceless things, yet ultimately deep pockets called the shots.

i should have trusted asr i guess... i got carried away.

khushi looked at a scrap of paper in which her channe were wrapped and got to know of the mrs india competition. i have been a copywriter for years... i know, you always try and go back to the beginning as you end. it's a classic ad writing thing. it is supposed to tie things up neatly. give cohesion, unity. makes the reader decode the main message better...

we started on a stage on a dark mysterious evening of sixth june. we will end on a stage. she had been lost and scared and confused on that ramp, but now we shall see her confident, on top of things... character growth. he had looked at her with inert eyes. now his eyes will be full of love... a whole story told.

and so, hey, where to find a stage? why, a mrs india contest of course... see, we are so clever, khushi kumari gupta who has an a in her name, aaa, aaa... now she is a srimati, a missus, what a journey.

and of course we must deploy all her little elves to bring about this fairytale to its conclusion.. come on then, channe, jalebi, recalcitrant shoes, love of food...

might have even worked, if people's minds and hearts were not so troubled. after all the first episode, it had enough and more improbable moments... which fashion show director would make a mistake like that. she was just a girl in a lehenga at the wrong place, so he yelled and screamed, while others flew about putting on make up, changing her shoes, throwing on a dupatta... and there she was, pushed onto the stage.

such things don't happen.

yet, it never really mattered. because there was pyaar in it all. now paisa rules. and all it does is tear the heart asunder. not just the viewer's... everyone's.

there was a beautiful moment captured in that fight of theirs... he had called her ridiculous in his own way... weak, not in touch with reality. such fights do happen. and even the most loving people say miserable things to each other. it hurt khushi. asr understood that. something sweet about him wanting to make it alright... he kept trying, but he didn't manage to hit the right note. happens. she was upset... i can understand.

but was that the best way to explore these emotions?

also, what the h is a mrs india competition? and how the h does taking part in it establish you are a confident person who can face the world and run a business and earn money?

and since when did khushi have a self esteem issue?

of course, she can walk on heels, dammit. she only trips when strong arms can shoot out and gentle hands land on her shoulders and a deep voice say "come!" huskily, yes so huskily, and she can be propelled backward, made to sit on a chair by the pool, two concerned eyes looking at her, a man kneel before her, a pair of searching hands lift up her saree just that much and hold her foot, and you know... thoda dard hoga.

in all other situations, khushi walks perfectly on heels.

she loves to dress up... go back to the day of teej and watch her confidence while getting ready. she has a great eye for accessories and is a master of putting together the most unfashionable, behenji things and looking totally irresistible. ask asr. ask shyam. ask nk. ask me.

as for confidence, don't you remember how good she is with pratiyogita, her yaalgaar yaalgaar call during sangeet? she has never lost a competition on stage.. she can even step right into the raizada arms and twirl away perfectly, not a step missed, in front of a whole room full of strangers, despite acidity hitting her hard.

and anyway, she never had a problem with facing the world... or tackling difficult things.

so if she were feeling hurt by what her husband had said, i am sure she'd have found something far more interesting than this to calm that feeling within her.

but the writers needed a stage and a denouement within ten episodes, their dil was not in it, their dimaag just wasn't functioning too well.

tum theek ho? asked the tycoon. and i have to say, he sounded sweet, a man who just must worry about his ladki, who has said what he really didn't mean in that way... an old habit really.

nahin, arnav ji, hum theek nahin hain... replied ipk.

💔

i did laugh out loud though when the classic rabba vey pose pulled out to fairly astounded onlookers and mami brazenly asked about the romancing that doesn't end. i also had to give credit to the team of fine actors that tried to keep cool through the absurd days and do what they could to keep the show going. note, nk from kidney never had any job/pastime/occupation of any sort. no one even bothered to comment on that. 😆

and sanaya managed to look lovely in that innocent way of hers, making me so want to see them again... khushi, the batty cute mad sassy one. asr, the rude insolent autocratic one. and a story that was completely weird and such abs fun.

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kizh72

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Posted: 9 years ago

#316

I just watched the diwali episode today, where it ends with him holding up that paayal. And to think it ended up with this. Gah, never understood the mrs.india thing at all. Yeah, you got that part where he said stuff which he probably shouldn't have and she felt bad about it. But no, the khushi we started off with wouldn't have done this, that karengey ya aur karengey girl. The one who tied a raksha dhaga and called a guy bhaiya and got him to take measurements of some other fellows😆 It was almost like showing the finger to that laad G kahin ke 😆

Yeah let's go back to the beginning and start it all over again.

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indi52

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Posted: 9 years ago

#317

^^^

exactly. karenge ya aur karenge (tell me where she said that, i must go see again 😆). yes, show the finger to the laad gov... madam could get good tarkeebs to fix the man. of course, one look at her looking gorgeous and he was gone anyway. so groiks what be this missus bharatvarsh story.

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Horizon

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Posted: 9 years ago

#318

Aww indi.. beautiful .. imaginative edits..those with their real self sheer backdrops..gorgeous..

and the concomitant apt writing...

The despair air about the sets, about everyone around...

when you see something being built brick by brick..

inch by inch...

its not easy seeing it crumbling down slowly.. but surely...

but what remained amidst these ruins surely is

that perfect end note.. you beautifully wrote about...

the love.. they had for each other...

we had/ have for these two...

thank you much for the nice words about my posts for what ever they are worth...

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indi52

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Posted: 9 years ago

#319

missing the mehsoos
episodes 389/390

i kept watching, hoping to see something nice, something ipk. we have come this far, to suddenly lose touch is disconcerting. i wonder how the creatives who brought about such fixed in the mind moments of attraction, desire, wrenching chaotic mystical absolute love... or was it hate... or maybe that thing it was which cannot be named... how those creatives could be so lost.

but they were.

in 398, i still felt like making a few caps, in 390, not even once did i want to stop and catch a moment.

a completely unreal mrs india thing is suddenly on. lots of dialogues, much action. nothing really works though. actors are trying hard to make it all seem normal, but their voices are pitched a little off, a little hysterical. their expressions don't quite hit the right note.

mami and nk have been homed in on to provide mirth, make time pass without anyone noticing.

i am noticing.

okay, there's asr in his office. suddenly a switch to something familiar... he is still sounding like himself.

in rm, khushi looked for a moment like she used to... innocent lovely happy untampered... but the scene had no meaning.

but then on the stairs with asr with nk, i am giggling... that look on his face at the hyper k... that muttered "are you on drugs?" so inalienably ipk.

no other hindi serial has ever had that swish style, that intelligent air. here, even amid a collapsing imarat (isn't that what khushi had said way back post guest house?) a fractured epic (there, i used the word for ipk at last... it was that, and maybe the great epics need to get smashed so that we can go to another arena and learn something else, who knows... i know i am rambling, but i must i must)...

back to what i was saying, even in this state, there are moments unlike anything hindi tv and pure absolute cool.

are you on drugs?

yeah, maybe i am.

pure narcotics. no chance of rehab.

a snapshot in the bedroom. two people, a stance, a thousand and one memories.

"watch the tone, khushi.." a low dangerous murmur.

"kya tone, kaisa tone!" what tone, what kind of tone, a snapped back, loud answer. i am laughing again. these guys together, that vibe... even in the finest of films i sometimes don't get this.

khushi was weird and cute, "aapki dadi chubti hai!"

she complained about his stubble. is this the first time? yeah, his stubble looks more aggressive, prickly... okay, let me not go into this at all. there are children on the thread.

"isse punishment samjho..." think of this as punishment. rumbly, wanna get closer to you voice.

what. my mind is flying to horribly chaotic places. and how does barun sobti get that look on his face when asr sort of flirts with his wife and loses his own moorings as things get a little... you know? please, mister, you can't act so well. aapki acting chubti hai.

again all that kissing on the cheek... no way, he kissed her hard on her lips just then. lifted her up and took her to that perpetually ready bed. bas. sorry, i don't care what sweet tv safe stuff you wrote, dear writers.

safe... brings me to the mehfoos mashroof conundrum posed by nk. yeah... you guys are all very mashroof as in busy i can see, but alas ipk is not mehfoos, that is, safe.

even so, i shall go to 390 and sit through 20 minutes of really meaningless stuff. the mrs india set up is so lacking in just about everything. tacky, unrealistic, vapid. and why the attempt to introduce "story" in the interaction between the judges. were they supposed to be a couple whose marriage was messed up and thanks to khushi they patched up again?

as you can see, my mind is in a state of cringe always, anticipating horror from all directions.

and those contestants, just out of the blue meanness toward khushi... why? terrible dialogues... no feel for the scenario, weird camera and direction. then suddenly some so called "mehsoos."

khushi spoke to herself about their "mehsoos," that feeling they have, how they sense each other when they are close to each other, and never get it wrong. felt like something from another serial. poor creatives, really really lost.

but mehsoos is a crucial thing... i can sense ipk somewhere nearby, just that it's a bit hidden these days behind all the shenanigans.

thoughts...

~ what does nani ji mean by, "shadi shuda auraton ka ek maryada howat hai..." married women have a certain status?

she never had a mind like that, not nani, that's dadi talk... and would nani say it in front of anjali? this is so tv soap nonsense. i absolutely abhor this reduction of women as a gender. we don't have to be married to have maryada, thank you. a host of privately held, money making, mostly foreign owned channels are underscoring a patriarchal mindset, taking us back to which zamana who knows, not respecting girls as girls, enough in themselves... this obsession with marriage... ridiculous. why do we even have things called mrs india? do we have a mr india contest for married men? why is it okay to show such biased bilge? recently, nurses have protested against being portrayed badly, made fun of, on tv... i wish i could really take up the issue of how women are portrayed and relegated to roles like wife and mother only on tv... yes we are or can be that, but we are not only that... and if we chose not to be either, also fine, we could still be fab people... i am incensed as you can tell by that maryada line.

~ yeh project tumhara baby hai.

while asr's hindi has a lot of english mixed in it, there's always elegance in the way it's done. this was a pretty strange sounding line. he'd just say, this project is your baby... that sudden "baby" in the hindi sentence was funny, as if someone meant to put that in here... usually marriages in hindi soaps lead to baby soon, that is if sex has not been banished on some pretext... was this some sort o f a take on that? the ipk baby being different from the other babies... whatever the reason, clumsy syntax. even more weird, the offer he makes... he is not stupid. why would he suddenly make her head of fashion shows or whatever? beside he has given her a company... so what nonsense, really. and please would he choose such an ugly room for the one he punishes with his chubti stubble? 😆

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kizh72

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Posted: 9 years ago

#320

aapki acting chubti hai.

Yejj yejj bahuth chubti hai, hello hi bye bye 😆

Among all the unexplained mysteries like the bermuda triangle, pileej include bhy these two were not cast again together inspite of that rather unusual vibe 😆