REALISATION HITS HARD TO JALAL EPISODE-212

Thanks Harshu..my post is not a new one...it's a collection of many posts of myself 2 yrs back...but as even today my views r same, and I m still not fully recovered to write long posts, so posting the same here...and sorry if anybody feels offended...it's just my views and that too from Jo's side...coz I simply m not with Jalal, though Jodha is equally wrong here...

anyway, here is how I see this whole thing...

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it's so refreshing to see Jo standing up for herself, for her dignity, for the very first time...I don't care whether she is right or wrong... com on she is human being... if she is doing any mistake , so what... it's just a mistake not crime like others , even Jalal so oftenly does... and mistake she has done coz she loves both very much... she knows her dear brother has been wrongly accused, and there is no way Jalal will let him free without proofs... and Jo doesn't have any proof in her hands...

and then Suja tells her the truth that her Husband's life is in danger from his own ppl... that husband , who now has become her life... and his own ppl r behind his life... so whom can she point finger at? coz next moment he will ask for proofs... again she doesn't have it... hadn't
same thing happened in Ben's case also... till last moment she kept telling him, and he kept insulting her , that too publicly... so what should she do? does she always has to put herself in danger? will that be the evidence of her love and loyalty for him? can't her mere words be
enough for him?

i know she was wrong not to tell him abt suja... may be her crime was very big that he used those words for her...he practically threw her out of his life... so how can we blame her? why should we blame her? Just coz now Jalal is saying , she should have trusted him and told that she is meeting Sujamal, and he would have trusted her... Really? i think she has tried to tell him once that she wants to talk abt Suja, and he said she is thinking like a sis , and so
she will always be partial and so he won't talk to her on that matter...and suppose she would have told him that she met Suja and come to know abt threat to Jalal's life, do we really think Jalal would have trusted her words? hasn't he asked for proofs? what she would have done then?

Again i m saying , Jo did wrong thing by hiding it from him... but then his many previous mistakes were much serious than this one of hers... what punishment he got? always one sorry, and she should forgive him? every time a new charge on her... every time charge gets even worst than before... then every time she is proved right and pure... every time he is proved wrong... till that time always she is humiliated badly... no body ever felt necessary to think of her as human, to think of her pains every time she goes through...not even her so called husband...every time she was punished for the crimes she never did, forget doing, she can't even think of committing such crimes even in her dreams... and still she is punished, only coz she stands proudly on her grounds? every time the decision is taken first and then asked her to prove it wrong... why? has she been treated fairly any time? how many times she has to prove herself not to be wrong? Ruku's MC, Jo's preg track, Ben track, and now here too... agreed she hide it from herself, but she never cheated him.. and she didn't know that he knows abt her meeting suja... and previously when she had tried to talk abt Suja, Jalal has stopped her saying not to talk abt Suja , so next time she won't expect him to listen..

yes, i m happy, this time she punished everybody and all... they deserve it... just one punishment from her, and Jalal is broken to pieces? what abt how she survived till date, then? I will say she is much more stronger than everybody...

and this is true Jodha... brave, fiery, prudent, royal... Jalal now is ashamed that he accused her... but it's only after he personally met sujamal, only when suja put his own life at risk for Jalal... had he not met suja and not known the truth from him, and if Jo had tried to tell him , do we really believe that Jalal had trusted Jo? coz against Jo's words abt suja being innocent, there were MA's words that Suja is culprit... whom Jalal had believed? Jo or MA? and if Jalal has no answer of it, or even a single doubt that he can't decide btw Jo and MA, then he has no right to accuse Jo... no right at all...

what Jo did was right... for once she stood for her dignity... and this was long due... enough insults she had from him ,and from his ppl... may be later she will apologize to him, for hiding
the truth... but it will be only when his repenting will be complete... till then he has lost her trust... and it's going to be hard for him to win it back... coz this time he has to assure her, that let anything happen in future, he will stand by her just by her words, she doesn't have to prove herself once again... if he can make her trust him to thispoint, only then Jo will forgive him, and even apologize from her side... she will apologize but only when she will be sure , he doesn't doubt her anymore ... else she will prefer staying away from him... coz till now she has taken many insults even when she was not wrong or involved... all those times she was hurt and punished first and then he said sorry... this time role reversal is there... let him get the punishment first then she will say sorry...

i m not defending Jo... but i won't blame her either, coz till date she has suffered a lot without any mistake of her own...

So dear Shehenshah, now it's ur turn to face 'Agnipariksha' of Trust, Jo has put in front of u... coz she has already given it many times... this time she simply refuses to give it again...and rather now she is asking u to prove urself worthy of her, of her trust, of her love and care and support... we all know Jalal will pass this exam with flying colors...

Originally posted by: harshu27

Hiii all d epi was good...it mainly revolved around jo and jalal and finally jalal's dreams r shattered after knowing that jo had left agra and he gets to know thru moti who reads him d letter and where she had confessed her love for him... 😛

jalal enters jo's room where he comes back from his dreamland and sees kanha's idol missing from d temple... 😕 and asks about d idol and moti tell him of jo leaving agra and jalal is totally shattered to know and she reads him d letter as she had to follow orders of jo... 😕

moti reads about how jo was in a shock and so she couldn't answer to any of his questions and as he had accused her of having an affair and pointing finger at her character that hurt to d core which made her to keep mum... 😕 she further reads that she left agra not coz of being angry but coz of his orders and so only thing which she was taking along with her without his permission was kanha's idol and fb is shown of jo in commoner's getup taking kanha's idol and asking sorry to kanah for changing his place again... 😕 she further adds that if she had loved someone else her marriage with him she would have committed jouhar but not married to him... 😕 also during d time of marriage she did hate him but now she had loved him ... 😃 moreover she writes that he shouldn't send any army in search of her and even if by chance he fins her he would never get back his jo even thou he mite get back his begum... 😕 and we have in fb jo leaving agra with her kanha...and jalal is totally numb and tears flowing from his eyes...

this is what I seriously hate d cvs they have always shown jalal a cranky fellow...more than d female character we have d male one shedding buckets of tears and its really insulting to d great emperor... 🥱 hence forth we will have one month headache track d Mathura track...filled with all d boring and illogical scenes...🤓 accept for a few good akdha scenes and worst is jalal acting as dead just to get forgiveness from jo...heights of foolishness from d cvs... 🤢

but frnds one sincere koshten to all...dont mind...r we all blind followers of jo...? I have seen in this track ppl have considered jo as right and jalal as wrong for not trusting her...? D reason ya coz she had saved him from ben's poison by risking her life so he has to compulsory trust her...?but does that mean we r just seeing only one side of d coin...? Jo saved him only once... what about him saving her so many times...? R we so ignorant of jalal saving jo from committing suicide...? whatever d reasons were she wanted to commit suicide irrespective of all that...he saved her...he could have easily let her die y not coz he has so many begums who die for his one look and ready to fall for him and satisfy his desires...?so he could have let her die...but still he did save her...ok many mite think of he was conscious of d sultanate's honor going in drains as it would bring defame if ppl come to know that mughal begum committed suicide so what...?does jalal really care what ppl talk about him good or bad...? or even some of us mite feel as it was his attraction towards her his obsession for her and so he saved her...ok secondly on d way to amer...when they were on a boat ride they were attacked... there too he saved her from d arrows hitting them directly...ok just before this we have tiger track...he saves her from d tiger in spite of knowing that she had removed d bullets from his gun and he himself got injured v badly while saving her...so much so that d hakims had lost hopes raising their hands up like a typical filmy style...🤓

good questions Harshu... yes, we should never follow anybody, let it be Jo or Jalal...yes, he saved her many times..at her suicide attempt he saved her, may be for his honour, or may be for his attraction, only he knows...but at boat ride, as u say, that he saved her, is not completely right... that attack was not for her... it was for him only that too from his own ppl...if she was in danger that was coz of him...and abt tiger attack, yes he saved her and that was her stupidity to remove those bullets from the gun... but again Jalal was hell bent on taking her with him even when she hated hunting, and didn't want to go with him...may be he wanted to enjoy her being uncomfortable...she was wrong, but he wasn't right either...and abt that suicide track, also, she gets depressed when he utters 'talaq' word...how can we forget, that just before that suicide attempt, she was punished for death sentence for no mistake of hers...there too Jalal first announced punishment, humiliated her and then interrogated the truth, when ruku said so... when he was fair to her, so we expect such thing from her?

I m not defending Jo, but I can never take Jalal's side... coz he is always proved wrong...and I m not saying it...he himself has apologized every time...


so frnds it just a koshten in my mind which was lingering since so many days rather start of this track...and foremost thing its just a general koshten no offense to anyone and neither m bashing jo...its just a doubt about y we always try to ignore jalal's goodness by masking it with jo's deeds...😕sincerely m not a blind follower of jo and neither a blind follower of jalal...😉 i love both of them together...😉and always have placed my support and anger for and against whoever was right and wrong...😉 so I just want answers from u ppl...what do u feel...again plz no bashing just want a general reply from u all...😉ok back to d epi scene... 😉

jo leaves and recalls her moments with jalal and then d worst one where he accuses her of having an affair and tells her to leave ... 😕 we have a sad bgm playing both in male and female voice and on d other hand jalal too in totally broken down leaves her room... 😕

ruks comes to meet MA and asks her whether she was aware of d person whom was caught as KS was none other than suja... 😕 but MA fakes acting innocent of knowing about suja 🤓 rusk tells her that she dint like jo to b punished in such a way as she doesn't like d innocent ppl to get punished... 😲 she tells MA that she would have loved if jo was really d culprit but being innocent she was punished so she was upset... 😃

I really loved ruks till here as she really felt bad for jo and for d 1st time we find her supporting jo and telling that she was innocent... 😛 but as usual MA brain washes her saying that jo has left d palace and so she should b happy... 😕 and now jalal will b completely hers... 😕 ruks tells her that when jalal comes to know d truth he will go to any xtent to bring jo back and after they meet both will b much more closer than before and ruks will loose jalal forever... 😕 MA is now in thoughts as she too mite have d feeling ki uski chaal ulti padh rahi hai...😈 and ruks character has always been a see saw d most inconsistent character of d show... 😕 😆 sometimes she is so sweet that lagta hai we viewers watching her like this mite suffer from diabetes and otherwise seeing her our bp rises lagta hai abhi heart burst hoga hypertension ke wajase...

cheapu returns back to d palace and is thoughts rather in frustration as his plan backfired him and so no jo getting...😳 moreover suja was proved innocent and so jalal is on hunt of that subehdar who was involved in d attack with maali... 😕 sharif adham MA ruks all belong to d same ship always day dream but everything turns futile...😈

sharif meets MA and tells her about suja begin caught... and we nautanki queen acting too innocently as if she wasn't knowing that d KS in disguise was suja... she acts more showing her fake concern and comes to know that suja was proved innocent and wasn't arrested and he informs her about suja saving jalal from an attack... 😕 again nautanki queen fakes her concern about how jalal misunderstood jo and accused her of being characterless and so she was compelled to leave agra...😳 and cheapu day dreams of using this as an opportunity of gaining jo 😳 so witch is showering her fake concern for jo and d devil is day dreaming about gaining jo wow what a Jodi devil meets witch...🤪

jo reaches some village and asks for water from a lady and she gives her to drink meanwhile 2 men r discussing about jalal's policy of abolishing slavery and d pilgrim tax being taken from d subjects and gossip about him that it was all a show off and he never cared for his subjects 😕 jo listens to these talks and she comes in rescue of jalal... 😛 she defends jalal by telling what all good things he had done for d welfare of his subjects... 😃 later realizes that she spoke everything in a flow... 😉 and asks sorry... 😃 they ask her whether she knew jalal and she refuses saying no and leaves and sits somewhere in d corner...😕 thinking that y she was feeling bad when these ppl were talking bad about jalal... 😕 😉

one lady comes and gives her something to eat...jo recalls jalal's words of having an affair and confessing his love and she wipes out her tears... 😕

waiting... 😛

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Thanks Harshu..my post is not a new one...it's a collection of many posts of myself 2 yrs back...but as even today my views r same, and I m still not fully recovered to write long posts, so posting the same here...and sorry if anybody feels offended...it's just my views and that too from Jo's side...coz I simply m not with Jalal, though Jodha is equally wrong here...

anyway, here is how I see this whole thing...

===========================================================================

it's so refreshing to see Jo standing up for herself, for
her dignity, for the very first time...I don't care whether she is right or wrong... com on she is human being... if she is doing any mistake , so what... it's just a mistake not crime like others , even Jalal so oftenly does... and mistake she has done coz she loves both very much... she knows her dear brother has been wrongly accused, and there is no way Jalal will let him free without proofs... and Jo doesn't have any proof in her hands...



and then Suja tells her the truth that her Husband's life is in danger from his own ppl... that husband , who now has become her life... and his own ppl r behind his life... so whom can she point finger at? coz next moment he will ask for proofs... again she doesn't have it... hadn't

same thing happened in Ben's case also... till last moment she kept telling him, and he kept insulting her , that too publicly... so what should she do? does she always has to put herself in danger? will that be the evidence of her love and loyalty for him? can't her mere words be

enough for him?



i know she was wrong not to tell him abt suja... may be her crime was
very big that he used those words for her...he practically threw her out
of his life... so how can we blame her? why should we blame her? Just coz now Jalal is saying , she should have trusted him and told that she is meeting Sujamal, and he would have trusted her... Really? i think she has tried to tell him once that she wants to talk abt Suja, and he said she is thinking like a sis , and so

she will always be partial and so he won't talk to her on that matter...and suppose she would have told him that she met Suja and come to know abt threat to Jalal's life, do we really think Jalal would have trusted her words? hasn't he asked for proofs? what she would have done then?



Again i m saying , Jo did wrong thing by hiding it from him... but then his many previous mistakes were much serious than this one of hers... what punishment he got? always one sorry, and she should forgive him? every time a new charge on her... every time charge gets even worst than before... then every time she is proved right and pure... every time he is proved wrong... till that time always she is humiliated badly... no body ever felt necessary to think of her as human, to think of her pains every time she goes through...not even her so called husband...every time she was punished for the crimes she never did, forget doing, she can't even think of committing such crimes even in her dreams... and still she is punished, only coz she stands proudly on her grounds? every time the decision is taken first and then asked her to prove it wrong... why? has she been treated fairly any time? how
many times she has to prove herself not to be wrong? Ruku's MC, Jo's preg
track, Ben track, and now here too... agreed she hide it from herself, but she
never cheated him.. and she didn't know that he knows abt her meeting suja...
and previously when she had tried to talk abt Suja, Jalal has stopped her
saying not to talk abt Suja , so next time she won't expect him to listen..

yes, i m happy, this time she punished everybody and all... they deserve it... just one punishment from her, and Jalal is broken to pieces? what abt how she survived till date, then? I will say she is much more stronger than everybody...



and this is true Jodha... brave, fiery, prudent, royal... Jalal now is ashamed
that he accused her... but it's only after he personally met sujamal, only when suja put his own life at risk for Jalal... had he not met suja and not known the truth from him, and if Jo had tried to tell him , do we really believe that Jalal had trusted Jo? coz against Jo's words abt suja being innocent, there were MA's words that Suja is culprit... whom Jalal had believed? Jo or MA? and if Jalal has no answer of it, or even a single doubt that he can't decide btw Jo and MA, then he has no right to accuse Jo... no right at all...



what Jo did was right... for once she stood for her dignity... and this was
long due... enough insults she had from him ,and from his ppl... may be later
she will apologize to him, for hiding

the truth... but it will be only when his repenting will be complete... till then he has lost her trust... and it's going to be hard for him to win it back... coz this time he has to assure her, that let anything happen in future, he will stand by her just by her words, she doesn't have to prove herself once again... if he can make her trust him to thispoint, only then Jo will forgive him, and even apologize from her side... she will apologize but only when she will be
sure , he doesn't doubt her anymore ... else she will prefer staying away from
him... coz till now she has taken many insults even when she was not wrong or
involved... all those times she was hurt and punished first and then he said
sorry... this time role reversal is there... let him get the punishment first
then she will say sorry...

i m not defending Jo... but i won't blame her either, coz till date she has suffered
a lot without any mistake of her own...

So dear Shehenshah, now it's ur turn to face 'Agnipariksha' of Trust, Jo has put in front of u... coz she has already given it many times... this time she simply refuses to give it again...and rather now she is asking u to prove urself worthy of her, of her trust, of her love and care and support... we all know Jalal will pass this exam with flying colors...

Originally posted by: mickeymini

It was a ok ok episode di
Yes we always ignore jalals POV always praising Jo
But kya kare typical ekta ka jalal hai
I see always in ekta shows c make d male leads shed buckets den d female leads
The film was having better jalal in dis matter I mean in sujamal track
But ye TV shows just to grab trps put illogical tracks
Dey could have shown just like d film as Amer ka Jo bhi track tha woh aaj tak hit hua hai
But sick cvs
N ya I seriously dnt like dis track
Here jalal is more likely an aashiqui den an emperor
Ok let me rest here
As I think we can ignore some more episodes n can continue frm wen jalal knows his whereabouts

Originally posted by: ...Anabella...

Awsm analysis loved every word of it. Thanks for the pm

Originally posted by: harshu27

hi diksha hw r u feeling now...? hope at least lil bit better... 😃 ok anywys...well I agree wid ur pov...abt jo being alwys accused and insulted publicly...agree wid dat no doubt regarding her in ruks MC track dat was another disastrous track... where jalal dint do any investigation thnx to hukka at least thru her he tried to do and found out d truth dat too again MA wasn't xposed but I feel even jo never trusted him initially agree she hated him to d core and I agree to dat also coz if since childhood she has heard bad things abt him dn its obvious she will hate him but she had alwys jumped directly on d conclusion d best xample whch I remember at present is d DEA scene where jalal punishes a hindu couple and tells der son to go home... but later wen dat boy tells him of his parents being punished and his home was confiscated jalal recalls his childhood and releases his parents...but jo dint see dis entire scenario in fact she left DEA wen he declared d punishment for dat boy's parents...and its only wen SB told her d truth she knew dat d boy's parents were pardoned till dn she has alwys misunderstood him ...so I think even somewhere she was wrong she cant b completely right...coz after all she too is a human and not a saint...if jalal has committed mny mistakes against her defo she has also misunderstood him mny times...abt ben track dn here I did support jo coz she had did try to tell him but his ego had blinded him and dint bothered to listen to her...in fact here again sometimes I feel both were wrong...coz both dint bothered to clear d matter abt d letter...normally wen he has accused her of anything she has given him a fitting reply but here wen he told her mny times abt inviting him to her room and giving him dhakka I was surprised she dint bothered to clear d air... 😕 so I think both have committed mistakes thou jalal has alwys been in a mess coz of his blind trust on MA...and ruks...so now we will have to watch dis cranky fellow and we have a boring epis further...till he realizes dat he had duties of an emperor too...and goes bk to agra... 😆