Niyati

Today Guru Vashisht said 'Niyati ko koi Nahi Badal Sakta'. Honestly I'm too inexperienced to tell if life is predestined or our actions make our destiny. This question has intrigued me since I was a child, I have yet not found the answer.

sumedha very deep post.

What a deep and well thought lut topic.

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

What a deep and well thought lut topic.

Will try to add more later but for now..

Our destiny is based on both our actions as well as karma. Karma would lead the way while our actions would either add on or lesson the effect of karma based on what we do.

Our past karma and it's effects are certainly not under control. But blaming everything on our past karma alone is not right.

Btw, the one way Manthara could have changed her destiny was by changing her current course of action which was in her control. She chose not to and confirmed to her destiny.

Yes It was said our actions will lessen or add to the effects of things but here is my question. For example you are destined to come out with flying colours in the exam you are about to take. So in case you work very hard you score 95% but even if you don't work so hard and since you are destined to score good marks you get say 90%.

Manthara's current actions were inspite of her knowledge. Manthara has never been mistreated by Ram or Sita. She has never seen Ram ever favoring one mother over the other. But her current actions are going to be inspite of this knowledge.

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

Manthara's current actions were inspite of her knowledge. Manthara has never been mistreated by Ram or Sita. She has never seen Ram ever favoring one mother over the other. But her current actions are going to be inspite of this knowledge.

Manthara assumed her destiny's course based on her own prejudices. She created her own karma.

That is exactly what Ramayan describes. Shri Ram is given numerous opportunities to choose to go back to rule without exile. He chose what was right based on the truth. Manthara chose to follow her lies that led to her destiny.

you should read the books by Dr Michael Newton like Journey of souls and Dr Brian Weiss books on past life and reincarnation. Dr Newtons book talks about the regressions he did with people about what happens after we die, how we are allowed to pick our lives with just an outline shown to us, and how it's our own actions that decides which way our life will go from there. Dr Brian Weiss book Same soul many bodies also gives examples of how that works.

As far as Astrology is concerned our Destiny is mainly divided in 3 groups.
1) Dradh prarabdha- un changable destiny. Approximately 30 to 40% of our destiny is of karmas, that can not be changed. They are result of our past Karmas, carried foreword from past lives.
2) Almost 30% of karmas are such, that can be changed with hard work, depending on +ve or -ve course of action one choses.
3) Remaining 30%, destiny allows you to create one's karma. There is a freedom of choosing whatever one wants to do.
In 2nd & 3rd group, one's family, surrounding, friends & many other factors play important role. Thought pattern is very important here.

Hope this helps in finding some answers. 😊

Originally posted by: mnx12

As far as Astrology is concerned our Destiny is mainly divided in 3 groups.
1) Dradh prarabdha- un changable destiny. Approximately 30 to 40% of our destiny is of karmas, that can not be changed. They are result of our past Karmas, carried foreword from past lives.
2) Almost 30% of karmas are such, that can be changed with hard work, depending on +ve or -ve course of action one choses.
3) Remaining 30%, destiny allows you to create one's karma. There is a freedom of choosing whatever one wants to do.
In 2nd & 3rd group, one's family, surrounding, friends & many other factors play important role. Thought pattern is very important here.

Hope this helps in finding some answers. 😊