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Originally posted by: Morning_Dew

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I rather agree with RTH here .. Bolywood has its own unique identity ..I dont' find any problem in it .. sometimes we hate it , we laugh on it but this is true it is now part of almost everyone's life one way or another .. from music to story to stars . it is a good entertainment . We shouldn't forget that we can't compare it with holywood . there are major differences like target population , finances etc.

It's because its our own culture and "apna" product and we Indians take pride in it. But quality wise out of hundreds of movies produced every year only few stand out. My intention is not to compare with Hollywood, but they can try sometime something different too, within budget.

and I dont' agree with you about recent efforts of breaking the trend .. movies with different topics are not new happening .. it has been there in early period too. for eg. Raj kapoor's Jagte raho , Tesri Qasam were not at all typical movies .. movies by Guru dutt were different and ofcourse movies of parallel cenima ; Art movies of 70s and 80s.

Yes it tried before, but failed to appeal to the masses at that time. Before art movie were not so popular, not everyone was willing to watch. Now the difference is this kind of new and small-budget movies have managed to find large no. of audiences appreciating the movie-makers works blending both commercial and art form.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

Sorry to disagree with you. Infusing love stories in block-busters may be in practice in hollywood, what about the rest?

No denying that there are other diverse movies in Hollywood. However, the truth of the matter is how well are they known, and how popular they get. I remember in the 77th academy awards Chris Rock was going around asking people on the streets about the Oscar nominated films for best movie and people had no clue about them. Will Ferrell and Jack Black's skit at the 79th academy awards portrays the disparity within Hollywood films.

Even in India there has been parallel cinema over the ages. People making the less commercial more technicality oriented films. The difference lies in that in Hollywood they use the Oscars as a beard to closet their cheesy blockbuster side.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

I can name n no. of hit movies with only male or female cast in the main roles.

Would you please oblige?

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

They make movies based on love stories on all ages, usual or unusual. Out of great subjects and plots. How many we can name in Bollywood? Only thing attracts about the Bollywood love stories is they are very colourful and have good numbers, other wise same ghisa-pita love story, always melodramatic. How long can we accept the same heroes working for the past 15-20 years again and again in the same romantic roles. I am not saying they are bad actors, but how much they can offer again and again playing the same kind of role. It's high time we need fresh faces in romantic movies. They should try different subjects and minimise appearing in movies in every 4-5 months. That's very much in practice in Hollywood for the actors getting older.

Movie makers are in a business to make money. While a few are more technically inclined, ultimately they are there to please the public. The reason Bollywood is limited to the romance genre is because the audiences for years have shown an inclination towards romance and drama. Even Indian television is marked by dramatic soap operas because that is what people prefer. The Indian audience is also not ready for many styles of movies. However, as the audience evolves movie makers are making more diverse films.

Bollywood is a genre in itself. Thousands of people across the world fall in love with the color, the music, the romance and drama in Bollywood. To them it is something new and unique. In a sense Bollywood movies are musicals, Broadway still living on the big screen. While the musical era faded in Hollywood, it has taken root in Bollywood and gone to new heights.

In fact I would have to say Bollywood is less random with their song and dance than musicals. Cell Block Tango, now how random and scary was that. They were pretty spiffy and well co-ordinated in prison, I must say. The only difference being that Bollywood might have found a way to fit 'Lady Marmalade' into the actual plot of Moulin Rougue.

By the way why do you think neurotic melodramatic romances with random song and dance sequences become so loved. There is something about musicals. C'mon all you Hollywood buffs come out already you know you miss THIS.

As for diversity, Hollywood has its own share of diverse actors like Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chris Tucker, Will Ferrell, Owen Wilson, Jack Black, Jon Heder, Bruce Willis, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

Talking about creativity, don't forget many Bollywood movies are inspired from Hollywood.

It seems our only lack of creativity really is the lack of creativity in diversifying sources. Recount many major Hollywood releases - based on books, comics, video games, television series. If not inspired by a true story. Or a remake of an older movie. If it is horror it is probably a remake of a Japanese movie.

Sometimes even Hollywood has flashes of inspiration 'I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry' is inspired from Australia's 'Strange Bedfollows' and 'The Departed' by Hong Kong flick 'Internal affairs'.

In a sense don't you think it is more creative to take elements of a completely different culture, different settings and adapt it to Indian cultural senses; that to adapt a screenplay.

Well not to toot my horn, but I live and breathe movies. First in line for every Hollywood blockbuster, and I watch more Bollywood films than my friends in India. I watch everything from musicals, noir, action, chick flicks and even zombie comedies. Watched foreign films too, Russian, French, Swedish, Thai, German. The one thing I have learned from movies is to appreciate the cultural diversity across the globe, the different styles and audiences. To appreciate each genre for what its worth. You cannot compare Million dollar baby to Mean Girls, but you sure can learn to enjoy them both. It's about time the genre wars stopped.

Originally posted by: preethi_p_r

Are Bollywood movies a huge collection of love stoires , i.e 1% creative new ideas and 99% love stories ?

Look at what happened to a master piece "No Smoking" by Anurag K, audiences are not willing to be open on new ideas what can the movie makers do.

BTW IMO movies with geat innovative ways of presenting any human reality should be encouraged.

love exists somewhere in movies at some places or the other.. it doesn't have to be a hero and heroine it can just be a family or siblings love

Bollywood has always been about fairy tales, perfect looking men and women. That is just the way it is and we love it for that. But there have always been few exceptions with great movies that are surrounded on a love story.
The only thing that pisses me off is that eventhough the story doesn't require a gf/bf, there is always one present there, even if he/she is there for few songs only. It is kind of ridiculous. Example would be the Bhagat Singh movie with Ajay Devagan, that really ticked me off just because Bhagat Singh was known to have refused marraige offers and never had any gf but still for the sake of a Bollywood movie, they had Amrita Rao for random songs and sighing and crying

Originally posted by: *guesswho*

Bollywood has always been about fairy tales, perfect looking men and women. That is just the way it is and we love it for that. But there have always been few exceptions with great movies that are surrounded on a love story.
The only thing that pisses me off is that eventhough the story doesn't require a gf/bf, there is always one present there, even if he/she is there for few songs only. It is kind of ridiculous. Example would be the Bhagat Singh movie with Ajay Devagan, that really ticked me off just because Bhagat Singh was known to have refused marraige offers and never had any gf but still for the sake of a Bollywood movie, they had Amrita Rao for random songs and sighing and crying

yeah thats too bad also , adding love stories where it is not required .

And as far as getting new themes and audience not apreciating , I feel audience do appreciate many new themes eg lagaan , RDB , Swades . Everthing thats new need not be a hit and just because a new experiment flopped directors need not continue to make love stories . That way hundreds of love stories are flops !

Im not a fan of westerners but I definetly appreciate thier movies . Each and evry movie has so much of prerequisites carefully done . and so many new concepts . Star wars , Lord of the Rings ,Dragon heart , Patriot ,Shawshank redemption , Jurassic Park ,Die Hard , Indiana Jones etc etc . All movies so different and brimming with Creativity !!!

And India is a country with so much of heritage and culture and what do our films depict - Boy searching for 'd' one and girl waiting for her prince and a love story . Common is that all the creativity a Diversified and Richly cultured Country like India think of !!! Is that the only phase in life for a human finding the one , after that is there no life ?? !

From what I see only ashutosh gawarikar , hrithik and aamir are the few people trying to do different thinks .

I hope in future more bright Indians become directors and story writers . Also some very capable people get into graphic designing for our films .