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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareg

Currently Bobby Jindal is one of the most conservative republicans in America and most Indians are democrats by politics.

If Indians are gloating about Bobby Jindal they should first get to know what he stands for, not just support him for the tone of his skin 😉

Hey but what if I don't like color blue?😉 Now I have 2 reasons to like him.😛. Whatever he stands for he can't be as bad as mcgreevy or corzine n NJ.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

Lighty, Again here we are talking about Americans with Indian roots being proud of his achievements.

My question is about Indians back home who make it a huge deal and treat these NRIs as VIPs. But they aren't doing anything for India. He won this because he is an American. He is living the American dream.

Maya, Indians and bollywood in particular love NRI characters portrayed by SRK in Swades, KHNH, DDLJ, K3G and KANK which tells me that Indian dream is to live american dream apple pie ala mode. 😛

In not too distant future we may even read or see pictures of presidents of the 2 largest democratic nations who are both Indian.😃

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Posted: 18 years ago
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@ light house Maya, Indians and bollywood in particular love NRI characters portrayed by SRK in Swades, KHNH, DDLJ, K3G and KANK which tells me that Indian dream is to live american dream apple pie ala mode.

In not too distant future we may even read or see pictures of presidents of the 2 largest democratic nations who are both Indian.

I agree with you madame, the hang over of almost 400 years of slavery is not yet over. Any thing related to foreign, especially America is viewed great evenif the achievements of Indians who lived in India is better.

But our 2nd generation in these foreign countries are better and have to salute them.

Edited by nitasuni - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

https://www.ibnlive.com/news/debate-not-indian-but-indians-gl oat-over-their-success/51004-3.html

Some excerpts from the article:

Indians celebrated when Bobby Jindal, the son of Indian immigrants, was on Sunday elected the Governor of the southern American state of Louisiana. Yet another American desi had made India proud, they said.

But should Indians really be taking credit for Jindal's success? His parents moved to the US 40 years ago and he was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana?

Check this video

https://www.ibnlive.com/videos/50983/success-in-the-west-yet- india-claims-triumph.html

Topic for debate here is

1. Should Indians really care about these achievements of an American with Indian roots?

2. Now as his father has promised to visit his home town with son Bobby, people are gearing up to clear up the gandagi off street because an American cannot stand dirt and polluted environment of a small Indian town. Your opinion on it? BTW Bobby Jindal converted to Catholicism from Hinduism as a teenager. Yes indians in US care... may be some in india... over all a person who changes his religion to be recognized and apes the west doesnt get much recognition in india... we respect people who wear a dhoti while attending round table conferences... that in american terms is an "attitude"😊

3. Is it always Chak de moment for us Indians when we hear about any acheiver with Indian roots? Indians with roots who want to be identified and keep in touch with india make us proud... Does anybody care about Norah jones even though she is half indian!!!!! You have to believe in collective wisdom... never ever question it....😊.. Does anybody talk about freddie mercury..but we feel proud about laxmi mittal because he cares for india....collectively we have a way of showing the "right" finger to the whole world if required...its not just a part of our values...😆 but if some of these indian-americans and abcds want to appear, feel, seem, keep in touch with the indians... we just reciprocate...and revel in their achievements....😊.. nothing bad about it...I am sure nobody cares about fiji singh... but wonder after generations of being out of india why does he still carry the india in him....😆

Sorry I thought initially you had misspelt bloat... .and I thought leave it to the americans.....😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareg

Currently Bobby Jindal is one of the most conservative republicans in America and most Indians are democrats by politics.

If Indians are gloating about Bobby Jindal they should first get to know what he stands for, not just support him for the tone of his skin 😉

well said. If indians want to support him. Do not support him for the indian eth. but how he is as a politican. LA is a big mess after kat and they needed someone despt. to clean it out
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Qwerty, you made an excellent point about Norah Jones and Indians in general being reciprocal inside and outside of India. UK Indians made it possible for Shilpa Shetty to win BB in London, I am not sure if they would have done the same for Nora.

Bobby Jindal may have converted to catholicism but he married an Indian and is probably more Indian by association with his parents who moved from India and have immediate relatives there.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Does anybody care about Norah jones even though she is half indian!!!!!

You got a point there. But there is a reason for that. Norah just doesn't acknowledge that fact. She was in the news for a long time but when she never bothered to give importance to that, Indians forgot too. With Bobby that is not the case. His father is in touch with his brothers back home.

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Sorry I thought initially you had misspelt bloat... .and I thought leave it to the americans.....😆

bloat ya gloat. Ki farak painda? dono mein fulte hain na. 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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We are not an Indian MNC: Aditya Mittal
2 Nov 2007, 0001 hrs IST
,Rashmee Roshan Lall ,TNN



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Steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal, (right), with his son Aditya Mittal (TOI Photo)
LONDON: Aditya Mittal, son of LN Mittal and heir apparent to the giant merged company that is the world's number one steel producer, has finally challenged patriotic Indians' insistence ArcelorMittal is an "Indian MNC".

"We are not an Indian multi-national", ArcelorMittal's CFO declared late on Wednesday, in response to a question from TOI. Mittal added that despite "the whole family having Indian passports and of course, we go back (to India) often, we are not an Indian company, in fact we never saw India as an opportunity".

The Mittal family mainly lives in London but Arcelor-Mittal is headquartered in Luxembourg and listed on the New York, Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels, Luxembourg, Barcelona, Bilbao, Madrid and Valencia stock exchanges.

Mittal's acknowledgement of ArcelorMittal's 'foreignness' to India came as Indian software industry leaders, prominent British Indian businessmen, academics and editors of Harvard Business Review debated the gradual emergence of "made-in-India multi-nationals" to mark Independent India's 60th birthday.

The discussion, co-hosted by Professor Nirmalya Kumar, joint-director of the Aditya Birla India Centre at London Business School and the Review's editor and MD Thomas A. Stewart included Rajesh Hukku, founder of Indian banking software company I-flex.

Even as Hukku insisted the I-flex cube is a "brand", as much as a brand leader in the financial services industry worldwide, he admitted 'made-in-India' multinationals are yet to reach the stage where they can boast "a Sony or a Wal-Mart". Mittal added that even as Indian companies try to achieve a global footprint, the term "Indian MNC" was a paradox because "an Indian MNC cannot conquer the world unless it becomes a global MNC".

Both Mittal and Hukku, arguably the most recognizable faces of 'India Poised' offered personal vignettes on the resistance Indian or Indian-fronted companies face when they try to go global.

On a humorous note, Hukku described the individual trials and tribulations faced by Indian employees of companies such as I-flex, which grew from nothing to behemoth status as a half-billion-dollar outfit, servicing the financial services industry in 128 countries.

He said the Indian entrepreneur looking to do business with the world has to grapple with unsolvable basic issues such as expensive showers at Heathrow airport because flights from Delhi and Mumbai land in London very late at night. In equally relaxed fashion, Mittal, offered the first-ever glimpse into the backroom shenanigans of finance and foreign ministers in European chancelleries during the five tense months it took to Lakshmi to buy Arcelor in June 2006.

He said France's then finance minister Thierry Breton, who publicly voiced concerns about Mittal Steel's hostile takeover bid for European champion Arcelor, conducted a breakfast meeting with Lakshmi and his son but pettily made sure the guests could not reach the freshly-baked croissants on the table.

Mittal junior added, to gasps of horror from the well-heeled dinner guests ensconced in the Business School's beautiful Garden Room, that Mittal's alleged effrontery in launching a bid for Arcelor once prompted a military aircraft challenge to Lakshmi and son's aircraft.

But Aditya insisted that his company had managed to make its way in the world, despite its founder's Indian origins, because we believe "be bold, be passionate, persevere". Pointing out that Mittal Steel had been a global player for just over 10 years and "five years ago, we had no capital," Mittal insisted Indian companies and those fronted by Indians had to lead from the front.
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Good Answer Mittal Jr😆😆😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
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LONDON: Aditya Mittal, son of LN Mittal and heir apparent to the giant merged company that is the world's number one steel producer, has finally challenged patriotic Indians' insistence ArcelorMittal is an "Indian MNC".

"We are not an Indian multi-national", ArcelorMittal's CFO declared late on Wednesday, in response to a question from TOI. Mittal added that despite "the whole family having Indian passports and of course, we go back (to India) often, we are not an Indian company, in fact we never saw India as an opportunity".

Why should patriotic Indians mourn over this. It is the replica of the mind set of average immigrant indian if they made a success abroad. (Comments based on the close relatives(including husband) and friends living abroad,.)

Edited by nitasuni - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hey it doesnot matter wt bobby jindal achieve or not in america .he is only for america n always for america .if suppose tyms come ,tht war have started between america n india , jst supposed it yaar ,than tht bobby will comment that i'm patriotic american n i will fight for america.show chill all people these bobby type NRI who forget there culture , we say them NRI-:non reliable indian

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