Why Toshi is better than other singers

I GOT THIS MAIL FROM A TRUE DIE HARD MUSIC LOVER

Why Toshi is better than other singers 😊

"I have a logical and musical explanation for why he is better than any bollywood singer of anytime.

Originally posted by: L.A.M.B

I GOT THIS MAIL FROM A TRUE DIE HARD MUSIC LOVER

Why Toshi is better than other singers 😊

"I have a logical and musical explanation for why he is better than any bollywood singer of anytime.

Now I am only restricting myself to singing ability, not the "abhinay ang" or ability to suit any actor. Like for instance.. Shaan's voice suits Saif Khan to the T. Udit Narayan's voice suited Aamir Khan to the T. Kishore Kumar's voice suited Amitabh Bacchan more than his own voice!

No one thought that a voice like Sonu Nigam's would suit SRK. His songs were mostly sung by Udit,Abhijeet Etc. But now Sonu is popular and we have no problem hearing him sing for SRK. Similarly once Toshi becomes established, he can sing for any leading actor.😊

I am not talking of that… I am talking pure singing ability.

Let us first take the understanding of taalkaari (beats in Anglo speak). In many of his songs Toshi has deliberatly missed a beat (or a complete cycle) and adjusted to come back and hit the "sum" (the first beat in the cycle.

Alka Yagnick, Adesh Srivastav acknowldge this when it happens, Parveen Sultana applauded it when he did it in the wild card round. So did Jagjit Singh when Toshi sang Teri Deewani.

However none of the judges took the trouble of explaining this to the audiences. Here I am disappointd with Abhijeet.

There are many singers who struggle to sing with the beat in sync. Toshi has such mastery over beats that he misses a beat deliberately! He literally plays with the TAAL. It takes years and years of HARDCORE TRAINING to do this.👏

I have not heard any Bollywood singer do this. Even Ustads and Pandits struggle with this. This is an ultimate tribute to understanding of Taal!
And Toshi is a past master at it.

Coming to taans and alaaps and harkatein.

Listen to Silli Silli aundhi yeh hawa. And the harkat Toshi has taken with Hawaaa… aaa… aaa. This takes tremendous control and again years and years of training. He has done this better than Hans Raj Hans the original singer.

I agree,he's better than Hans in that song👏

Dont take my word for it.. listen to both versions

Now listen to Allahu.. Toshi's version .. The alaap.. the first musical notes he utters (aaaaaa….aaaa)… ask for a Hindustani music teacher's opinion on this.. can u get such a clean, clear, precise alaap. 😊Yes, but not from any Bollywood singer!

Sargam.. again the only one in my humble opinion of the "filmi singers" who could do this was Manna Dey. 😊Dont get me wrong please, I have almost all of Manna Deys recordings including his private mehfil cassettes, I am a huge fan of Manna Dey. But in Sargam's he does not even come close to Toshi.

Pain and passion are relative and subjective, so I wont go there.

His songs are filled with those feelings.That's one of his greatest advantage. Sur mein to bahut gaate honge. But very few manage to bring that kind of passion in their songs.

But none of the "regular bollywood" singers can push their voice to the limit as Toshi does!

For these reasons Toshi is beter than the run of the mill bollywood singers.

And Abhijeet said it different words…
Toshi I cant judge you.. I am not equipped to judge you.. you are made for a far far bigger platform than SVOI.

Abhijeet, Jagjit Singh, Khayyam, Parveen Sultana, Kalyanji Bhai, Ravindra Jain.. cant be all wrong can they?"

By

Zaki👏👏👏

Great Zaki! It's good that someone with 'music ka gyan' analyse facts👏

Originally posted by: trishanku3

I think this person is exaggerating too much here. If Toshi was such a great singer what was the need to enter into this competition for amateur singers? What was all the talk about not wanting to go back to the gandgi?

Toshi indeed has some good qualities as a singer but still has a long way to be in the league of the stalwarts mentioned above.

This guy is unbelievable when he says that Ustads & Pandits are not capable of what Toshi does and to say that Manna dey was not close to Toshi shows that we need not take all that Mr.Zaki has said seriously at all.
I really suspect his credentials and music sense(totally lacking)

I think this post should be moved to the jokes & humour
section.

Toshi better than Manna dey, 🤣

Originally posted by: sgsg

This is to the person who sent the mail, not the poster of the thread.

I am not sure if Toshi missed a beat or two. But there were so many occasions, when his singing was not in
sur. And this has nothing to do with the background music thats going on. If you really listen to him as a true music lover and not as a fanatic, you would have definitely noticed this.

oh come on!!! sgsg, if toshi can miss a taal deliberately, am sure he can also miss a sur here and there deliberately, can't he 😉 and for sure no pandits or ustads or manna da or even any of the current bollywood singers can do that

🤣🤣🤣

gosh i just cant believe that i am actually reading and even posting a reply to this

Originally posted by: kiti_g

oh come on!!! sgsg, if toshi can miss a taal deliberately, am sure he can also miss a sur here and there deliberately, can't he 😉 and for sure no pandits or ustads or manna da or even any of the current bollywood singers can do that

🤣🤣🤣

gosh i just cant believe that i am actually reading and even posting a reply to this

Originally posted by: L.A.M.B

Let us first take the understanding of taalkaari (beats in Anglo speak). In many of his songs Toshi has deliberatly missed a beat (or a complete cycle) and adjusted to come back and hit the "sum" (the first beat in the cycle.

Alka Yagnick, Adesh Srivastav acknowldge this when it happens, Parveen Sultana applauded it when he did it in the wild card round. So did Jagjit Singh when Toshi sang Teri Deewani.

However none of the judges took the trouble of explaining this to the audiences. Here I am disappointd with Abhijeet.

There are many singers who struggle to sing with the beat in sync. Toshi has such mastery over beats that he misses a beat deliberately! He literally plays with the TAAL. It takes years and years of HARDCORE TRAINING to do this.

I have not heard any Bollywood singer do this. Even Ustads and Pandits struggle with this. This is an ultimate tribute to understanding of Taal!
And Toshi is a past master at it.

Coming to taans and alaaps and harkatein.

Listen to Silli Silli aundhi yeh hawa. And the harkat Toshi has taken with Hawaaa… aaa… aaa. This takes tremendous control and again years and years of training. He has done this better than Hans Raj Hans the original singer. Dont take my word for it.. listen to both versions

Now listen to Allahu.. Toshi's version .. The alaap.. the first musical notes he utters (aaaaaa….aaaa)… ask for a Hindustani music teacher's opinion on this.. can u get such a clean, clear, precise alaap. Yes, but not from any Bollywood singer!

Sargam.. again the only one in my humble opinion of the "filmi singers" who could do this was Manna Dey. Dont get me wrong please, I have almost all of Manna Deys recordings including his private mehfil cassettes, I am a huge fan of Manna Dey. But in Sargam's he does not even come close to Toshi.

Pain and passion are relative and subjective, so I wont go there.

But none of the "regular bollywood" singers can push their voice to the limit as Toshi does!

For these reasons Toshi is beter than the run of the mill bollywood singers.

And Abhijeet said it different words…
Toshi I cant judge you.. I am not equipped to judge you.. you are made for a far far bigger platform than SVOI.

Abhijeet, Jagjit Singh, Khayyam, Parveen Sultana, Kalyanji Bhai, Ravindra Jain.. cant be all wrong can they?"

by a true music lover

I am sure pandits and established playback singers can not sing like him 😕...... or they would be out of work....😆