Certainly not for defending Shreya or her actions

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Hello to all the lovely people out here

I would like to let you know that this post is not meant to defend Shreya or her past actions or her current behavior or the way in which she will be portrayed in the coming episodes.

I know a lot of people are disappointed with the sudden turn in her character and I can completely understand what makes them feel so.

Right from the start she had been portrayed as a person with narcissistic traits (and that does not imply that she is suffering from clinical narcissistic personality disorder). Is it something unreal? Definitely not! Haven't we seen a significant shift towards lyrics that reflect narcissism where "I" and "me" appear more often "we" and "us" and hostility (change from positive to angry words and emotions)?

There is clear cut evidence that we are indeed facing a narcissism epidemic and there are various factors (such as lifestyle, self-esteem movement, existing cut-throat competition, rise in individualism etc.) that are contributing to this. (I won't get into the details of it but plenty is available over the internet if you are interested in reading about this).

The damaging aspect of narcissism is constant hunger for being admired; a sense of entitlement; a sense of superiority; a willingness to exploit; a lack of empathy; and, perhaps most importantly of all, a retaliatory aggression when the inflated ego is threatened (and the precap showed us this).

Now what I am going to say is not my generalized view but what research suggests. We know that Shreya belonged to a very affluent family and research suggest that rich are apparently more self-absorbed (would like to repeat again that I am not making a generalized statement). Rich people don't see selfishness and narcissism as negative traits. Rather they make no secret of the fact that they want to make themselves happy before considering anyone else. Probably it's her upbringing that misguided her self-esteem and thinking about self' thus turning into what she is today. So, in whole this is her perspective of looking at life which she has learnt through her surrounding and experience (so it's just a personality flaw in Shreya's case and not a mental illness - i.e. adaptive narcissism).

I was not too sure about the bet' thing that had been revealed to us but now when I think it might be true somewhere that the bet was involved but I also believe that she was attracted to Kabir back then. Or for once let us assume she loved him but surely her love was not based on any core connection but was based on functionality. She could never understand Kabir because ability to see other people at a deeper level requires the ability to see ourselves at a deeper level which she lacked entirely.

I would now like to refrain myself from speculating about why she wants Kabir back in her life or if there is something about the past that we still are unaware of.

But, before ending this post I would like to say that what we are being shown is a reality (maybe the execution is a bit OTT in the precap but it was needed to clearly show her inflated ego) and that I have full faith that CVs won't exploit Shreya's character as a typical Hindi serial vamp (because they have built her character with extreme attention and care). Expecting sensible content in the upcoming episodes as well just like the previous ones.

PS: Just to bring positivity to my post I would like to bring to your notice that narcissistic traits can be productive as well. In fact people with narcissistic traits are seen as good leaders. There is a book by Michael Maccoby which is based on productive narcissism that highlights Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Steve Jobs and others as productive narcissist. Thus narcissism isn't that scary and pretty common in general population!!


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Was waiting for your post.
narccistic characteristic exists within some people, tv serials always go OTT but it does exist and like you, even I guessed that shreya has it in spades. she always seemed a little unwell to me, . if she is nice than she is too nice and if she gets angry then she has a hard time controlling it, at the extreme ends of each spectrum.


Like some others, I'm disappointed that CV's turned her into a typical ex wife complete with " tum sirf mere ho" dialogues but let's hope she does not become a typical Vamp that are shown in every prime time serial.
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Originally posted by: pomegranate

Was waiting for your post.

narccistic characteristic exists within some people, tv serials always go OTT but it does exist and like you, even I guessed that shreya has it in spades. she always seemed a little unwell to me, . if she is nice than she is too nice and if she gets angry then she has a hard time controlling it, at the extreme ends of each spectrum.


Like some others, I'm disappointed that CV's turned her into a typical ex wife complete with " tum sirf mere ho" dialogues but let's hope she does not become a typical Vamp that are shown in every prime time serial.


Glad to know that you were waiting for my post Pome 🤗!

I was actually bothered by the fact that because of my narcissistic post people might actually believe her to be mentally ill so I thought I should talk about adaptive narcissism and how such traits are now increasing among people!

I know that dialogue is way too cliched but then I guess that's the part which aligns with what they had said earlier 'nothing shown will be unreal but fictionalized to some extent'. ..
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Originally posted by: idonkno


Glad to know that you were waiting for my post Pome 🤗! I was actually bothered by the fact that because of my narcissistic post people might actually believe her to be mentally ill so I thought I should talk about adaptive narcissism and how such traits are now increasing among people!

I know that dialogue is way too cliched but then I guess that's the part which aligns with what they had said earlier 'nothing shown will be unreal but fictionalized to some extent'. ..


she may not be mentally ill, but I will book a room in the mental hospital for her anway😃
it's the least I can do.


on a serious note, I don't understand why she would want back a man who cheated on her
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she may not be mentally ill, but I will book a room for her in the mental hospital for her anway😃
it's the least I can do.

on a serious note, I don't understand why she would want back a man who cheated on her

Well she does need treatment and I bet all the forumites will be thankful to you for making that booking..the sooner the better 😆😉

Well, at the moment I can think of just two possibilities - firstly there is something more to the past that we know (because she ain't that forgiving types and has ego issues too so wanting the man back in her life who cheated on her does not seem plausible to me). The other one is 'he is better catch now' after all he is the EIC now and hence she wants him back as a 'trophy' husband (she has emptiness in her life and hence the desperation to get him back at any cost)! I don't know if I am being logical enough but these reasons are running in my mind right now 😕
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Originally posted by: idonkno



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Originally posted by: idonkno


she may not be mentally ill, but I will book a room for her in the mental hospital for her anway😃
it's the least I can do.

on a serious note, I don't understand why she would want back a man who cheated on her


sorry..my net sucks currently 😡!
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Wonderful post as always dear.
One thing I'm also certain of and that is the cvs will handle this track also with the same uniqueness and and tact thatntheynhave used in all the previous ones.

Taking an example we saw anita completely taken in by shreya so much so that she gave Ananya an ultimatum to choose between her and kabir. But thatnsatisfaction was short-lived for shreya. Her look when anita entered and told Ananya to wear the ring and her statement that kabirs reassurances have actually compelled her to trust him were so simply said and above all the look she gave shreya spoke volumes...

I think what the cvs wanted to show us was that how much of a false exterior you put on at some point that resolve and artificial ness breaks and your true self is revealed...this was the final straw...when shreya saw her manipulation of anita fail her facade dropped and she reverted to being the shreya she always had been and the one Kabir actually knew...not that he did not see thru this false face of hers...after all he knew always what she was. I'm also sure he's very familiar with her underhand tricks and he's now not the young kabir Sharma she could manipulate then...this kabir Sharma has seen a lot in life, and more than that loves Ananya truly and deeply. He'll definitely do everything in his power to safeguard her and their relationship.

I once again want to say hats off cvs for giving us such a wonderful, realistic show and characters who are so close to real life that we can feel these things happening in our lives or in the lives of some dear and near ones...

Waiting to see what shreya does now and how far she succeeds or should I say how soon she falls flat on her face...

One thing I would like to see is shreya exposed in front of the worlds (on national/international TV) and Tarini's solider image resurrected to a certain extent. And I want Ananya to do this...

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Originally posted by: Mehek25


Wonderful post as always dear.
Thanks

One thing I'm also certain of and that is the cvs will handle this track also with the same uniqueness and and tact thatntheynhave used in all the previous ones.

Yes and that is the reason I made this post. So that people don't take Shreya as a K serial vamp. I am sure the CVs will defientely handle this track with grace and keep it realistic too

Taking an example we saw anita completely taken in by shreya so much so that she gave Ananya an ultimatum to choose between her and kabir. But thatnsatisfaction was short-lived for shreya. Her look when anita entered and told Ananya to wear the ring and her statement that kabirs reassurances have actually compelled her to trust him were so simply said and above all the look she gave shreya spoke volumes...

Shreya's twisted story did work on Anita but I am sure Kabir must have talked to her (and that made her agree to their relationship). I hope we are shown what actually happened that made Anita agree to this. Anita definitely looked at Shreya to read her expression and you know what I feel that Shreya made it easier for to understand her how affected she was by hiding her face with her hand.

I think what the cvs wanted to show us was that how much of a false exterior you put on at some point that resolve and artificial ness breaks and your true self is revealed...this was the final straw...when shreya saw her manipulation of anita fail her facade dropped and she reverted to being the shreya she always had been and the one Kabir actually knew...not that he did not see thru this false face of hers...after all he knew always what she was. I'm also sure he's very familiar with her underhand tricks and he's now not the young kabir Sharma she could manipulate then...this kabir Sharma has seen a lot in life, and more than that loves Ananya truly and deeply. He'll definitely do everything in his power to safeguard her and their relationship.

I completely agree with your view! A false exterior can not exist forever and there are triggers that will compel you to reveal your true self. With Shreya its just a beginning and soon everyone will get know her true colors as Kabir knows right now (of course he is the first one to doubt her and understand her game as he knows her in and out)

Kabir Sharma already knows how to play and defeat her in her own game! He will leave no stone unturned in showing his friendship to this new friend of his. It will be a game without any rules and KaYa will emerge as a winner.

I once again want to say hats off cvs for giving us such a wonderful, realistic show and characters who are so close to real life that we can feel these things happening in our lives or in the lives of some dear and near ones...

Indeed CVs deserve all the praises. Yes, its close to our reality that I can actually think of people who will behave similar to these characters in most of the situations.

Waiting to see what shreya does now and how far she succeeds or should I say how soon she falls flat on her face...

Yes.. I am eagerly waiting for the day Ananya doubts her because that face-off will be epic

One thing I would like to see is shreya exposed in front of the worlds (on national/international TV) and Tarini's solider image resurrected to a certain extent. And I want Ananya to do this...

Lets hope for the best to happen.


Thanks for such a wonderful reply and sharing your views 😃🤗
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Very very nice post !! I do have full faith in Cvs and writer for not turning Shreya into a typical vamp, I am sure there is something more what meets the eye.
I dont think so we could not believr Kabir and his story for shreya, sobthat means either Shreya is regretting for leaving him, or she has developed her feelings for him over this period of timespan of 8 years and she csme back or she cannot s3e Kabir Happy and living his life, She wants to break him apart as per her she broke the confident man and she wants to do the same... She didnt say ki Ananya tumhe chodegi aur tum mere hojaoge... then she could have tried to make Kabir fall for her instead she said ki tumhare dil ke chote chote tukde hojayenge .. which clearly states she needs to break Kabir and never let him rise in life ... And for sure she will fail miserably this time :)

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