Phantom gets banned in Pakistan on Hafiz Saeed's plea - Page 12

Originally posted by: riti4u

I wont equate them with a terrorist, like Hafeez Saeed but I do get your point and respect it. I in no mean would hurt any sentiment of common people in neighbouring country... well my ancestors were born there...😊.. All we meant was that Pakistan and its people should recognise people like Hafeez Saeed as "Terrorist" and stop this VIP treatment to him. These people are threat for you and me both equally...

Plus this is just a movie... If this man had not created this much hungama over it...it would not have gathered so much buzz around it too...

Would rest my case here. Have a great day.

Originally posted by: blue-ice

LOL...Krystal...what do u think our Censor Board is for...it chops off what it doesn't want the public to see and rightfully ...How does it matter if a portion of a movie. a dialogue , a cuss word or a whole movie is banned...at the end of the day...the result is the same...In India also they ban,...rather in small parts...so does that make us undemocratic?...

Democracy doesn't mean ultimate freedom to do what u want...If u think that banning a movie is undemocratic...i would say that not allowing me to drive over a certain speed limit is undemocratic...after all who is the Govt to decide for me...but no ur freedom ends where my nose begins...the Govt of any country has absolute right to ban whatever they think is not right for their citizens...or may bring down the image of their country...or may cause unrest in the country...there are absolutely no two ways about it...Didn't India ban the documentary on Nirbhaya? So there u go...even highly democratic countries do it...they regulate how things are conducted in their country...there is never any ABSOLUTE FREEDOM in a civilized world...

BTW...is Saeed listed as a terrorist in Pakistan?? If not then they can take action on his plea as a citizen of their country who demands protection...It may be wrong from India's POV...but for Pak Govt...if he is not categorized as a terrorist ...he is another normal citizen for them...Shouldn't we be more worried about why the Pak Govt is not categorizing him as a terrorist and try to convince them of handing him over to India...instead of throwing fits over banning of a movie...

I'm even shocked why people are saying the trailer hurt any sentiments when it was clearly directed towards terrorism? This is a very regressive thing to do, and they gave the movie a ban because a terrorist threw a fit? Wow, just wow. How do people expect to move forward when this kind of mentality stays in a country where laws are concerned? It's pathetic to say the least.

Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy

Nobody is doing that , the majority here is baffled by the terrorist's plea and the sorry state of the country in question ..

Exactly! Everyone's question the reason for the ban. That terrorist is worried that the movie is going to shame his image and that of his outfit? A TERRORIST OUTFIT? 🤪 And that too seeing the trailer of the film.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

have been raving and ranting about Nihalni's infamous declaration of pulling the axe on cuss words in movies, for a reason. Ditto for the ban on Uddwin's "India's Daughter". Both of these were undemocratic decisions.

Freedom of speech is never absolute, correct. However, there are some limitations which are accepted as "reasonable" universally. For e.g., propagating harmful or illegal ideas, or inciting violence. Making a political statement about a State doesn't fall into that ambit. And the movie is not even directed at the Pak Government/State.

Speeding is not a valid analogy, since it has the potential to damage or take a life.

I agree with the last few lines of your post though. The Pakistani Government's constant glossing over of the facts regarding the likes of Saeed and Lakhvi is hugely worrying, and a lot is being done about that at the appropriate (read Diplomatic) levels. There's very little the general public can do about it.

I don't know the reason why Pakistan banned it but I find it so ridiculous that my own country are so backwards and lurking about doing nothing about this idiot. And he calls himself "Hafiz Saeed" bahut bada naam hai lekin he doesn't live upto it because he's a terrorist, it really pisses me off that he is still in our country with no caution and he gets to decide what movies should come on in Pakistan, bloody hell. What is wrong with the government and the politicians, I've read the rest of the thread and I respect everyone's opinion, I have watched Baby as well and I personally did not feel offended AT ALL when I watched it our own Pakistani actor was in the film! Mikaal!

Government can kill those twats that murdered our children but they can't even do one and actually kill this Saeed guy, UK/America want him right? It baffles me the guy has so much freedom to say all this but then again my own country doesn't give two hoots about Pakistan all the PM thinks about is his food, his money and nothing else. He's a businessman not the Prime Minister of Pakistan, and I'm sorry I don't mean to offend my fellow Pakistani members but I'm sick of the stuff Pakistan has to go through.

Impossible fr a movie against terrorism to be released in the biggest terrorist hub in the wrld.

The movie got enough hype now without doing anything. 😆

Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy

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