How could Ashok prove Dharma innocent?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Guys, now be the Chanakya and Ashoka yourself! Wear your thinking hats and present your case here.

Charges against Dharma:
- Accomplice in laakshgruha plot

Reason:
- her past and resultant frustration

Evidences:
- her presence in the palace
- hiding from Bindusar
- Robbery of Agnishika jewellery
- Payal
- Metup with Justin
- not present at the venue of the event
Additional / later evidences:
- Hiding from Khorasan
- ring
- escape from the palace (horse ride)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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honestly, there isn't a single way to prove her innocence unless one of the conspirators coughs up, or if Ashok leads to Mir Khorasan as the person who attempted to kill Dharma - which would absolve Dharma of all sins. Of course they need proof that Mir tried to kill her so he can't claim something rubbish like she killed herself or something. Maybe one of the soldiers who was present when Mir tried to kill Dharma?


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Posted: 9 years ago
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i think nihirika herself withdraw the case
when ashok save anhkoo at the end nihirika is mother
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kaana

Guys, now be the Chanakya and Ashoka yourself! Wear your thinking hats and present your case here.

Charges against Dharma:
- Accomplice in laakshgruha plot

Reason:
- her past and resultant frustration

Evidences:
- her presence in the palace
- hiding from Bindusar
- Robbery of Agnishika jewellery
- Payal
- Metup with Justin
- not present at the venue of the event
Additional / later evidences:
- Hiding from Khorasan
- ring
- escape from the palace (horse ride)




Interesting post 😃

The big advantage for Chanakya & Ashok here is that they only have to convince Bindusaar of Dharma's innocence, others opinions won't matter when he is convinced!

Let us see, first thing is to discredit the accuser/witness. Bindusaar already doesn't trust Niharika, this is in favor of Dharma.

Helena Mir have used Dharma's remaining in palace but not revealing herself into turning her the one plotting Lakshagruh. So Chanakya Ashoka need to reveal why Dharma did not reveal herself. For this Mir's truth has to come out. The witness in this can be the Mir's old soldier who has become friend of Ashok now.

At this point Dharma's accusing Mir will not help much as he will say she is doing it to escape punishment. So the soldier has to tell what Mir did.

Dasi meeting Justin in jail was Noor, the dasi Noor had threatened and used her clothes can tell it was Noor. Everybody knows Noor's soft corner for Justin so her going to meet Justin will be believed.

Finding jewelry or payal is no proof. Anybody can find anything anywhere! Chankya Ashok just need to get some of Niharika's stuff and put it somewhere & accuse her of some act, to show that is no proof.

Shubhrasi's dasi was killed by Charu. I don't remember if Dharma was even in palace at that time. This was long back maybe when Shubhadrangi was presumed dead.

Best way to do this is to gather proofs/witnesses negating the charges
and then Chanakya has to reveal he brought Dharma in palace for her to learn the truth, that it wasn't Bindusaar who tried to kill her.

Since Ashok will most likely tell Bindusaar what had happened to Dharma 14 years back, her needing to learn truth and remaining in hiding till she knows can be easily explained. Dharma can tell she was the one who treated Bindusaar & share some confidences to make him believe. Also tell how Nirjara saved her life.


The dagger & necklace Ashok has found (shown by CGM the lion!) has to have some significance. Why put that scene in? Why Ashok needs to show that? Bindusaar already knows how Dharma looks! So it has to have some other significance.


Also Chankya & Ashok need to find a way to drive apart Niharika from Helena Mir. For this Ahankara can be of use but not much. Even Ahankara knows if Niharika admits to lying to Bindusaar framing Dharma for revenge, she will face punishment.

Chankya suspects Helena & Mir have joined hands, he doesn't know why yet. If Chankya learns of Siyamak being Justin's son, he will know why. If Niharika learns this, there is no way she will believe Helena will help in making Sushim Samrat. Maybe Niharika might overhear Helena's plan to kill Sushim & put the blame on her, making Niharika turn against her.

Niharika will be against Ahankara's friendship with Ashok, but what after she learns who Ashok is?! She will change sides in hurry! 😉


Let us see what CVs have in store for us! 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I know many of you don't know me.
brw I am vikas.

my point is now its game patience now.
who ever stays patience for long wins.
we are in advantage that they don't know askok is dharmas son.
and if we see this correctly every plan is spoiled by ashok himself.
so if it is all dharmas plan why wo her stop everything.
why will he save everyone and why will he try to keep peace when his mother is doing this.
this is an important argument.

but here patience comes to picture because if they get any clue that ashok is dharmas son.
they will say all this is done by dharma to get ashok near to bindusar.

so ashok should maintain patience and wait for a mistake from their side and don't forget ahenkara still there she is friend of ashok dhe will help him for truth.
ahenkara is a weak pin on niharikas side.

at present both sides are in equal advantages and disadvantages.


Patience will win and it is chanakyas quote so we have a chance if ashok don't get emotional and reveal identity.
it may even lead for him to loose everything he gained by himself.
and even bindusar may hate him

then according to history he don't like ashok much so I guess its leading other way
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The way I see it, the first promo of Ashok trying to get his mother her rightful place will now be played out and stetched out ofcourse.

The track has a long way to go, and Bindu will be forced not to accept Ashok. Its not going to be easy peasy for Ashok or his mother to prove her innocense.

First rejection by all the royals, then Bindu etc. Second dand (punishment) which will be putting Dharma into prison...

Ashok will be allowed to stay in the palace but he loses his role as ang rakshak. He will join the army and then begins his quest to prove his monther's innocense and get her the throne.Between all of this Ashok will marry Ahamkara as a compromise and also to find out who was behind's her mother reason for blaming his mother. Then the Sushim/Ashok tashan will continue and some more plotting by the Hot & Cold queens and Mother of all troubles Helena




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Just awesome post each of you. What arguments yaar! Just superb.

Now allow me to please play the devil's advocate to get these interesting discussions going. I will also be sharing my thoughts on the case and please feel free to counter argue on my post or anyone's post. But no Sushim playing - no heated arguments please.

Let us enjoy raking our brains and analyse the track thread bare.

Hope you are game :-)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post.
There ws no way 2 prove dharma inocent. Bt if dharma invlvd in cnsprcy, thn why she used d name 'dharma', subhadrangi or anyother fake name she cldb used. Bindu knw subhadrangi ws his lyf savr, so if subhadrangi n dharma s same prsn, thn thrs a lil psblty.
Lts see wht ll cvs store 4 us!

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