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Posted: 10 years ago
Here is an interesting post on Madho Singh, son of Raja Bhagwan Das.
Do check it out:


This Rajput from Amer was a staunch loyalist of Akbar, like his father and brother. He has recently been introduced in the show, Jodha Akbar, as a villain apparently, who has come to assassinate Akbar and Salim.

But if we read about his exploits on the battlefield, fighting for the Mughals, then his portrayal as an anti-Mughal villain in the TV show will be shocking!

The post is by Abhay on his blog. 😊


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Posted: 10 years ago
Is the present track true? Had Jodha actually taken over the spice trade in real life? Was she also a businesswoman?
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Posted: 10 years ago
yes she ws a succesfull internation business woman, & become so rich also
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Posted: 10 years ago
Anyone knows official release date of Akbar Nama ?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: coolgal15

Is the present track true? Had Jodha actually taken over the spice trade in real life? Was she also a businesswoman?


Check out this blog for more info on marium-uz-zamani (Jodha):




She conducted international business, had a fleet of ships and even handled Haj pilgrimages. She amassed a huge fortune with her skills and talent.

The only NR in this track is that she did not conduct trade with the British. Her ships used to go to the middle east and she had to face much trouble from the Portuguese who controlled the seas in this region.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi,
Those who have been following Abhay's series on the Battle of Chittor can now read the latest part at the link given here:

Link :

DETAILED Rajput Record of Jauhar, Saka & Massacre of Rajputs at 3rd Siege of Chittor(1567-68) | Description of Rajput Warriors & OLD pictures of Chittor Fort | Battle of Chittor Part-6

This post presents the ultimate battle of Chittor from the perspective of contemporary Rajput records & some other chronicles. Numerous pictures and portraits of the Chittor Fort from the 17th, 18th & 19th centuries have also been included to show the majesty of the fort as well as the the magnetic attraction the fort has held for the historic chronicler or even the curious traveler.

This post presents the names of many known and unknown Rajput warriors from the illustrious houses of the 16 superior vassals of Mewar and others who supported Mewar against the Mughals in this war. Even their lineage & present-day whereabouts have been included!

The post also pays homage to those brave and noble women who believed that their honor as well as the honor of Mewar was more precious than their life. These proud women either chose to die defending their motherland on the battlefield or to perish in the fire of Jauhar rather than being captured & facing dishonor (and worse) at the hands of the invading army.

Note:

The details/pictures in this post are extremely gruesome and should be read only by those who can stomach the savagery unleashed in Chittor by the victorious Mughal army.

Other Posts in this Series
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Posted: 10 years ago

Writing a few words about Akbar's mysticism and his views on religion, to the best of my knowledge and understanding.


I will try to sum up his thought process in as much short post as possible. One of the reasons, why i have NOT made a "conclusive post" TILL NOW about Akbar and his views on religion and mysticism is - The more i read, the more diverse views i get about his thinking. And, in turn i turn to find answers of the new questions, leaving the ones unexplored.!

I am struggling with myself and at times, i am left debating in my mind, about various actions and the reasons why Akbar took certain steps.

I will try to write from a frank & neutral perspective, in my opinion.
It may appear to be a slightly critical assessment of Akbar.
Ok, so here we go..


The subject of Akbar's opinions on religion has attracted much attention from many of the authors who have dealt with his life and history. It occupies a large space in the works of Badayuni, Abu'l Fazl, the Christian missionaries, and obtains great prominence in the books of the modern historians.


Akbar's attitude towards the issues of religion changed completely and more than once during his lifetime.

I.
For many years he was a zealous & orthodox, Sunni Muslim, willing to execute Shias and other "heretics". Though, his pilgrimages to the shrines of Sufis continued in this time also. And also, he maintained the Hindu practices in harem and even participated in the hom worship - Courtesy : Hindu marriages , as Badayuni writes.

II.
He next passed through a stage (1574-82), in which he may be described as a sceptical, rationalizing Muslim. This is the time when he patronized temples as well, in Vrindavan. Temples were constructed by Raja Man Singh. The year was 1573.

III.
In the last stage, after 1582, he finally rejected " Taq'-lid " and adopted " Raa'h-e-Aq'l " , which means rejecting the "written principles" and going through the "methods of rationalism". <- This is what scholars term as a rejection of Islam by Akbar.

I and Donjas have discussed this many times that Akbar was NOT a by the book Muslim, as he evolved. He was a rationalist.

His religious speculations and vagaries rested primarily on the fact that he was born with the mystic temperament, that means inherent devotion to God.

There is a post on my blog written by Radhika, which talks about the reasons of " Eclecticism of Akbar " . For me it is one of the best posts written about the views on religion in shortest possible words.

Must read post. It is all about Sufism and religion.
Link : Akbar's Eclectism

I will quote one incident which i liked a lot. It was all about how much Akbar hated bigotry later in his life. This is from Badayuni's testimony..

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Akbar had called Aquaviva, a Portuguese into the court, and asked him the views on religions. One of his outspoken comments invited the wrath of the orthodox clergymen of the court. One among the latter, challenged the Portuguese to walk in the fire with Bible in hand. He said - he would do the same by holding Quran in the hand. Whoever, comes out unscathed would be the winner.

The Portuguese refused to do so, as he knew that there would be no "Chamatkar" which would save him, hence he refused. But, acc to Badayuni, Akbar asked the Portuguese to accept the offer, and promised that he would make arrangements for the safety of the latter. Badayuni does not gives what happened after that, but says that Akbar wanted to eliminate that theologian, perish in fire, as he was a fanatic.
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Even in the early years of his reign, when he was a zealous pilgrim to the shrines of the saints, a generous builder of mosques, and a willing persecutor of "unorthodox theologians", but even then his orthodoxy was modified by a strain of mysticism based chiefly on the writings of the Persian Sufi poets ; Hafiz and Rumi counting among the best of the lot.

I started to read about Sufism around the same time i started to read about Akbar, as i wanted to know, what Sufism really is, that was a key to understand Akbar. His attitude towards religion expressed the queer mixture in his mind of mysticism, rationalism, 'his own superstition', and a profound belief in his OWN God-given powers.

Later in life he came more under the influence of Hindu pantheistic doctrine {Jains, Zoarastrians also included}, which has close affinities with Sufi teaching. Throughout all phases he seems always to have cherished the mystic's ideal of close and direct communication with God, unobscured by priestly intervention or disputable dogmas.


The debate in my mind continues, and it can be clearly seen in the opinions put forth here. I will add more in future, if not here, then in the blog posts, about the mysticism & religious views. :)

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Posted: 10 years ago
Akbar was the most powerful king of his era. Just how powerful. I recently read an article in the magazine 'TIME' which counts him among the richest men of all time. According to the article, Akbar ruled an empire that contributed 25% of global GDP. That is staggering wealth, difficult to comprehend.

So much power, so much wealth makes a person believe that he is special. Abdul Fazl put it perfectly, Akbar had been blessed by God to rule and to look after his people like a father. The more powerful Akbar became, the more he began to believe his destiny.

And a father never distinguishes between his children. He already had a philosophical bent of mind, so perfectly explained by Abhay and Radhika in their posts. Combine that with the destiny that he believed more and more with the passage time, of a father figure ordained by God to care for all his people without discrimination.

Now we can see why Akbar followed the path he did.
Edited by Donjas - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago


Hi All,

We have gone through 6 articles in the Chittor Battle Series. This is the Part -7 & the last post in that series, which was started last year.

The present post is the concluding part of this Chittor Battle Series, which presents the Fatehnama-i-Chittor, the victory farman of Mughal Emperor Akbar, issued by him after winning this war.

It also compares the resources - weapons, soldiers, etc. of the two combating sides.

In addition, it talks about how this war paved the path for an unceasing struggle against Mughals by the Mewar Rajputs, spearheaded by Maharana Pratap.

It also contains LOTS of pictures of the weapons used by the combating parties and also portraits of Kumbhalgarh and Udaipur.


You can skip the bitter Fatehnama from this post, if you want {though it has been explained very nicely}. But do NOT skip reading the assessment of this blog post, at the end.

It contains some very FINE details and observations about Akbar and Maharana Pratap.


Link of present Post:

Fatehnama-i-Chittor, Comparison & Pictures of Mughal-Rajput Weapons, Assessment of Akbar and Maharana Pratap, Old Portraits of Udaipur & Path for the Future Struggle of Mughals - Mewar | LONG Detailed Concluding Assessment..Last Post on Battle of Chittor Part 7


-> In the last article, we read the detailed description of this war, including the Jauhar of the Rajput women, the Saka of the Rajput warriors and the massacre of civilians in the Fort of Chittor, as mentioned in the Rajput records. { Link : Battle of Chittor Part-6}

-> We have also seen the Mughal account of this war, which showed the tenacious ferocity with which both man & beast engaged in a do-or-die battle for the control of the pride of Rajputana - Chittorgarh. { Link : Battle of Chittor Part-5 }

-> Before that we saw the LONG post about the 5 months struggle between Mughal Rajput forces which talked about the course of entire BATTLE. {Link : Battle of Chittor Part-4 }



The Contents of the Post are as follows for a general idea:
Entire Post can be read on the BLOG.


1. Contents of The Fathnama-i-Chittor / Fatehnama-i-Chittor


a. Motivation for War:
b. Rana Udai Singh & his Son Refuse to Kiss the Royal Threshold or Make 'Peshkash' to Akbar:
c. Angered by Rana's Refusal to Submit, Akbar Decided to Attack Chittor:

d. Jaimal and Patta Equated to a 1000 Horsemen, But With a Tinge of Bitterness:
e. Mughal Emperor Akbar Arrives in Chittor:
f. Difficult Task to Capture Chittorgarh:
g. Interesting Account of the Massive Weaponry Present with the Rajputs:
h. Weapons of the Mughals and Their Mode of Warfare:
i. Mughal Troops Appointed to Capture 'Worthless Infidels' and Sack Udaipur & Rampur:
j. Rajputs Proposed Ceasing of This 'Fruitless War' but NOT at the Cost of Surrender:
k. One-to-One Combat of Mughal - Rajput Warriors Using Daggers:
l. The Struggle Continued:
m. For 3 Days and Nights, the Fight Continued:
n. Jaimal Takes Part in the Ongoing Action to Personally Encourage His Soldiers:
o. Blow to Raja Jaimal Rathore..A Great Loss to the Defending Rajputs
p. Jaimal .."Proceeds to the Abode of Perdition"
q. The 'Last' Morning of Chittorgarh - Saka Occurs:
r. Prayers for Victory...
s. Rajput Civilians..Dispatched to the "Lowest Parts of Hell"..As per Fathnama
t. Orders for Massacre Given..Men Killed & the Women/Children Taken as Captives / Booty:
u. Celebrations of Victory:
v. Thanksgiving for Victory:




2. Assessment

a. The discrepancy between the heavy religious undertone of the Fathnama-i-Chittor and the secular image of Mughal Emperor Akbar is shocking and yet, a creation of Akbar himself.

b. This document was written at his behest to celebrate the victory at Chittor and as part of his thanksgiving at the dargah of Sufi saint Khwaja Muin-ud-din Chisti at Ajmer.


3. A few take-aways from the series on the Battle of Chittor:

a. Akbar {In the context of Chittor}
b. Modus Operandi of Attack on Rajput States & Fate of Women and Children at Chittor
c. Comparison of Weapons & Soldiers:
d. Re-imposition of Jaziya & Mughal-Mewar Struggle related to Ajmer Dargah:
e. Why Maharana Pratap Resisted Mughal Subjugation:
f. Let's Analyze Akbar and Maharana Pratap on Moral Grounds:
g. Legacy of the Struggle between Akbar and Maharana Pratap:



4. Epilogue:

a. Till this day, Chittorgarh remembers the sacrifice of those men and women.

b. An annual Jauhar festival is STILL held in Chittorgarh to pay homage to those brave women.

c. The "sin of the slaughter of Chittor" is still remembered in the native language as "Chittor Marya ra Paap".

d. The last blog post in this series mentioned that the banker's note in Rajputana carried the number 74.5, considering it be inauspicious. This is because 74.5 pounds was the weight of the sacred threads, which were taken from the dead bodies of the slain Rajputs in Chittor, on the orders of Akbar, to assess how GREAT was his victory.



5. List of Pictures in the Post:

a. Patta's Lake - Fort of Chittor
b. Hazrat Naugaj Peer - Fort of Chittor .. Held Sacred by all faiths
c. Schmitar - Zulfikar Sword
d. View of the Hill Fort of Kumbhalgarh in the Aravalli Hills
e. Depicts sappers laying mines during the siege of the fortress of Chitor in 1567.
f. Initial Enthusiasm of the Mughal Force:

g. Swivel Guns Used by Rajputs in the Battle of Chittor
h. Weapons of India from Ain-e-Akbari:
i. Medieval Weapons on Display in the Delhi Museum


j. Illustration from Akbarnama of an incident when a mine exploded during the Mughal attack on the Rajput Fort of Chittor (Chittaurgarh) on 17th December 1567, killing many of the besieging Mughal forces.

k. Short range Weapons on Display

l. Mughal Emperor Akbar shoots Jaimal - Rajput commander of the Fort of Chittor from his matchlock called Sangram.

m. Rajput Women Performing Jauhar During the 3rd Siege of Chittor

n. Pillars of Dead Men's Heads Made After Winning the 2nd Battle of Panipat. The same was done in Chittor. The same type of pillars were seen by Mundy during the reign of Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan, details of which were posted in the preceding part of this series.

o. Fort of Kumbhalgarh.. A Painting.. 1819
p. Lake of Kankrauli in Udaipur .. Hills in the Background..1868
q. Statue of Hakim Khan Suri Pathan near a canon , in Udaipur
r. A well planned Street in Udaipur .. An Oil Painting by M. North.. 1878
s. The View of the Majestic Temple of Jagganath at Udaipur, 1867 (British Library)
t. Picture of Lake Picholla in Udaipur .. An Old Photograph of 1870's


Link of present Post:

Fatehnama-i-Chittor, Comparison & Pictures of Mughal-Rajput Weapons, Assessment of Akbar and Maharana Pratap, Old Portraits of Udaipur & Path for the Future Struggle of Mughals - Mewar | LONG Detailed Concluding Assessment..Last Post on Battle of Chittor Part 7


Other Posts in this Series:

Here are the links to the previous parts of the Chittor Battle Series. Please do read these before reading the present post.

1. Why did Akbar attack Chittor ? | Part-1

2. Preparation of Rajputs - Battle of Chittor | Part-2

3. Battles BEFORE the Battle of Chittor - At Kumbhalgarh, Rampur, Udaipur, Mandalgarh | Part-3

4. ACTUAL STRUGGLE between Mughal & Rajput Forces - Course of War BEFORE the Jauhar and Saka | Battle of Chittor Part-4 | With explained Portraits from Akbarnama

5. Mughal Record of Jauhar of Rajput Women & Saka of Rajput Warriors at 3rd Siege of Chittor(1567-68) + Mughal Victory Followed by Massacre of Rajput Civilians | Battle of Chittor Part-5 | With Portraits from Akbarnama & personal pictures of Chittor Fort

6. DETAILED Rajput Record of Jauhar, Saka & Massacre of Rajputs at 3rd Siege of Chittor(1567-68) | Description of Rajput Warriors & OLD pictures of Chittor Fort | Battle of Chittor Part-6

History of Jaimal and Patta | HEROes of the 3rd Siege of Chittor


Note:

Chittor is hardly remembered for the victory of Mughal Emperor Akbar. It is remembered more for the sheer difference in ideology of the combating sides and the attitude with which they fought.

The war which took place in Chittor is a lesson for future generations
and it is hoped that we all will learn something constructive from this sad part of history. That will be a true tribute to all those brave people who fell there. Many problems faced in today's world have their roots in the past.

Unless we face our past honestly, we won't be able to work upon a solution to the problems of the present.

This is the concluding part of the series on the Battle of Chittor. The purpose of this series was ONLY to present history in a balanced manner, taking both Mughal and Rajput accounts into consideration.
This is the Part -7 & the last post in that series, which was started last year.

Discussions can now be conducted on the battle and its aftermath, as the battle has been been described in its entirety, right from the run-up to it to the gory consequences of the battle.


Link of present Post:

Fatehnama-i-Chittor, Comparison & Pictures of Mughal-Rajput Weapons, Assessment of Akbar and Maharana Pratap, Old Portraits of Udaipur & Path for the Future Struggle of Mughals - Mewar | LONG Detailed Concluding Assessment..Last Post on Battle of Chittor Part 7


PS :
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You can share your opinions on this thread also..
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bharat-ka-veer-putra-maharana-pratap/4443556/fatehnama-i-chittor-assessment-of-akbar-n-mp-my-last-chittor-post


Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Abhay, you have produced an excellent article on the concluding part of the Battle of Chittor.
Kudos to you and Radhika for presenting intricate details about the mindset and religious principles of the warring parties. I am still absorbing the finer aspects of all the information that I've read.

Will definitely revert with my detailed views.

Thanks again.
Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago

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