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Posted: 10 years ago
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The seven Garudas as one :

The seven Garudas are all meant to form a body
The head - the mind

The heart - the soul

The body - the physical

Today, the mind is captive

So, the body is working without a brain to coordinate the parts

The heart is getting stronger by the day, and provides blood to all parts and so they all owe loyalty to him individually

But see no rationale or reason, because heart is the seat of love, not reason

The heart is always right, but needs a mind to show that to others


In the absence of the heart in the early days, the body itself did not exist, it was just a mass of parts

When only the brain tried to make the body a whole, without the life force provided by a beating heart, the brain did not succeed.


This is so true of all of us, we need both the head and heart to nurture our body, and then we grow stronger, our body willingly ensures health, and takes us towards achieving our life's goals

So if we love our body, we also follow the path of reason and logic, then our body will work in tandem and harmony.

So when all Garudas unite, they will all be propelled by a common passion.

Till then, DIL kuch mangega, dimag kuch Aur kahega, sharir kuch aur karega

Aur wohi hoga jo hua



The seven Garudas as individuals :

When all the seven start thinking as one, only then they will truly realise their individual strengths

And then Rudra will have

7 hearts that beat as one

7 heads to think with

7 sets of shoulders to share the load

7 sets of arms to carry the load

7 spines for greater strength

7 pairs of legs to carry him far

7 pairs of feet to balance him...



This then will become his biggest strength ...


Dansh today thinks that he is supreme and his people his baggage

When he sheds this baggage, on his way to victory, he will find that he has shed his support system, he has shed his army, he has shed his armor


A good episode, with some good dialogues again

Kartavya Nishtha garud Pramukh needs to free the mind, and then his body will act in sync...

Nag Pramukh Dansh, krodh Aapko durbal kar dega - sun kar achcha laga, aur yehi raaz Rudra ko Batana hai. Asha hai ki Aapki Leela yeh shubh kaam karegi

Guruji - itna mission SE pyar ke Apni beti se bhi kar liya inkaar?

Aisi kya majboori hai Aapki?


Nag kanya Leela - aaj tum achchi lagi humain ! !!!


Prof Rao - Narad muni Ki tarah garudon MEIN phoot daal ke Kahan lupt HO gaye?

Aur babbalji - yeh Mahakumbh kitna lamba project hai? Iski koi timeline hai bhi ke NAHI?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arshi my dear,

I have very little to say about this episode that I have not already posted on your thread of yesterday, so, with your permission, I shall simply paste that below

Only 2 more points. One, Rao is no Narad, nor has he caused any phoot among the garuds. The point about the garuds is that they are not robot soldiers like the nagas. They are individuals, and individuals have individual points of view that need not agree with that of the Pramukh. It was perfectly lazmi for Rao to have doubts about Rudra's "surrender the Two Books and get Baba back and later we can get the Books back too" scheme. But even so he does add that it is for the Garuda Pramukh to take that decision. And why should Charles and Tiwari not feel the same? Any rational person would.

And now that gambit has failed, perhaps because of the clandestine garud activism, but the fact is that it has failed totally, and Rudra has brought in, to quote Charles, a nayi museebat. So naturally the doubts begin to emerge, and right now it looks like a civil war in the making!

Secondly, it is not so difficult to understand where Guru Drish is coming from. Panna Dai let her own son be murdered to protect the heir to Mewar, who later became Maharana Udai Singh. It was not that she loved her son less, but that she loved Mewar more. The parallel is not exact, but in the main, it is the same for Drish. But of course no one will give him any credit for that, whereas if Shiva or Daadi had done something similar, they would have been lauded for their selfless sacrifice!!

Shyamala

And here, for those who have seen it on Arshi's last thread, and have the necessary patience😉, are my comments there.

If Rudra was not the hero, Arshi, he would never last out on this slowly rising learning curve of his! 😉By the time he has finished learning, the Mahakumbh, and the amrit, would be both gone.

And I do not understand this 'save Leela' bit. She has been shot 3 times, and Rudra is not capable of saving her if she were dying. Plus she is not his responsibility; his Baba and the Two Books are. He fails big time, as I have pointed out above, not only in his priorities but in his ability to achieve what he has decided to do. The running after Dansh, instead of the vehicle with his Baba, is a case in point.

Today, he also displays his inability to carry his troops with him. MB points this out to him, but I did not see him do anything concrete to allay their concerns, bar preaching at them.

He would have the luxury of doing that and playing the moral autocrat if his plans were always successful, but this latest one has been a total washout, and at least some of the garuds will attribute that to his mistakes. This is like a coalition govt. and you need a supple diplomat to keep the flock together and still get his own way. So far, Rudra has not shown that he has this talent, and the intra-garud situation resembles an incipient civil war.

No wonder Tiwari, who is no Rudra bhakt, and probably resents the way his guru, Prof .Rao, has been sidelined, wants to strike out on his own after the nagas, only to be opposed by Charles, who will follow Rudra whatever his personal reservations. But that would not be true of either Tiwari or Katharine, and unless Rudra exerts himself to get them too on board, garuda unity, and their eventual victory, will both end up as pipedreams. That will not happen, of course, but that does not mean that the denoument, and what leads up to it, will be credible.

Dansh, I was glad to see, is entirely consistent, and the reasons that I had questions about, concerning his shooting Leela and having himself whipped, were both answered tonight and highlighted his ruthlessness.

But the real shocker, which is going to hit many hard, is the attitude of her father, for whom the naga cause trumps his daughter's life. Not an unusual concept - remember Panna Dai? - and if it had appeared among the garudas, it would have come in for much praise. Now, of course, he will be flagellated for being an unfeeling monster of a father!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

Rudra is still in a learning phase, his plans are still half baked, he still doesn't Cover all bases.

He also still acts instinctively and not logically.

This rudra will get better and better and more and more astute with every action with Dansh. Dansh on the other hand is too self absorbed and cocky to realise how fast rudra is learning his way of thinking and acting.

Why did he shoot Leela? Because he knew that rudras first instinct will be to save Leela and that will give Dansh a chance to escape.


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Shyamala ji,
There is something else to Drish's acceptance and silence on Leela disappearing. Either confidence that she will survive or some backstory.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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he belived that she will backstab garudas.
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Good episode.

Dansh is high on rhetoric. Liking his character but he might run out of steam soon.

Rudra could not be understood. Has any plans up his sleeve? Well he wears sleeveless shirts.

He just attended someone with bullets when Dansh was walking away with dad and books. Atleast he could have tried to run after his dad. Anyways.

Today, Charles or Katherine? gave an advice that they should try to force Leela to help them. Anything wrong? Nagas are known adversaries. And nothing wrong in making Leela help. Well within Dharma right?

I wonder what Rudra's 'model of dharma' is?

Shivanand on the other hand has more perseverance and patience than Bhudevi. Tired of seeing him captive. He did say that when all Garudas unite, their power will be huge. Is he giving ideas to Dansh to keep him captive and thereby weaken Garudas?

Of all these, Maimui is cool as a cucumber. Unperturbed by these actions. To be fair, even Rudra is unperturbed. Has lot of confidence.

Leela's dad is confident of his daughter's survival and also little indifferent. But backstory kya hai? Will we ever come to know?

Writers have done well to bring this uncertainty and differences in Garudas who successfully failed in their maiden adventure.





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Failure in their attempt at bringing back Shiva, the differences among them, not happy with Rudra's Leela rescue, tomorrow Tiwari wanting to go against Rudra, Charles not allowing it - these are the sangharsh/challenges that the Garuda Pramukh has to face to reach the goal. Possibly these differences will keep coming, and Rudra may have to go solo towards the goal, but true understanding will prevail and the Garuds will unite. I feel this is what Rudra and MB meant the other day.
Dansh is growing on me with his extreme evilness. One thing is his tattoo can actually be erased, whereas the Garud Chinh cannot be. Nagas ke liye har mushkil ka ilaaj hai - blue poison.

Why is Rudra hell bent upon keeping Leela safe and not using her to their benefit? With Punnu and Daadi he didn't even get the thought of trying to do something, and Today she had 3 bullets, yet he rushed to save her. Hmm maajra kya hai with Rudra and damsels in distress. @ Santhi sleeve and sleeveless. 👍🏼

Drish is confident that if Leela is with the Garuds then she is safe, yet he showed indifference in comparison to yesterday's concern for Leela.

MB is very cool and confident and liked how she pointed out to Rudra that kuch bikhar gaya hum me and the others are not happy with his decision. Liked her and Leela's interaction. Ishwar ki ye Leela samajhte samajhte samajh aayegi...

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@Arshics MB is the heart of the operation, Rudra understands her and Charles trust Rudra. But people like Tiwari and Kat needs logic or in other words proof which only logic or brain can give , which is currently captive and missing in action.
Hence the difference. As you rightly pointed out only when head and heart is in harmony the body will function well. If you only go by heart some of your actions look like logic less to others, but then in due course the voice of the heart will be proven right. But some patience is required. If you have head alone there is no action, because heart gives blood to the organs to function. Without the life force, blood no action happens in the body as rightly was when Shiva was there with all the knowledge. Now with MB action is there, but it is confusing and unpredictable.
Now the leader has to convince his people why his action was right. For that proof will be needed. Yes Garuds are individuals and they will have their POV on everything. But one thing is that unlike Nags Garuds have conscience, so even if they rebel their conscience will bring them back. Remember Ron in Harry Potter who simply walks away after not able to take any more failures, but comes back at the right time to retrieve the Griffondor sword. Same is with Tiwari or Kat. They will rebel. Feel bad, want to desert Garud Pramukh, but their conscience cant keep them long away from him as Garuds are binded by emotions. MB knows this and that is why she hints the disharmony to Rudra.
Coming to Leela, I liked that she is not immediately doling out gratitude to Garuds, instead is wary, want to escape and fighting for the same. I loved in the precap don't expect anything from me.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i m not happy with with garud parumulh .kar kya raha hai .
mera shiva i feel bad for him per aaj maza aaya uske dialoug sun ke dansh chup .
naag pramukh to impress karta ja raha hai .
mai pyar zara kam karta hu kya baat
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I too thought so, Santhi, and so I wrote the day before that Dansh either knew that the shots would not cause her serious damage or he was sure the garuds would not harm her.

But last night, when it became clear that the wounds could have been mortal but for MB's powers of healing - reminded me of Asura Guru Shukracharya's Sanjeevani mantra! - I am not so sure anymore.

But it is true that Dansh was very casual about it all, and seemed to take it for granted that Guru Drish would accept his reason for shooting at Leela. Even then, I was surprised that he did not ask Dansh why he made an encounter killing of it, instead of shooting her where the injury would not be fatal, for that too would have served his stated purpose equally well. . Then Dansh would have had no answer.

It is all very puzzling, which is of course the normal state of affairs for us!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Shyamala ji,

There is something else to Drish's acceptance and silence on Leela disappearing. Either confidence that she will survive or some backstory.

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Santhi,

What a wickedly amusing girl you are! There are so many bits here that had me in stitches, so I have marked them naga vish blue!

My own comments are in italics.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa


Good episode.

Dansh is high on rhetoric. Liking his character but he might run out of steam soon. I liked the slow build up of frustrated rage in Dansh as Shivanand goes on and on about the superiority of the garuds once they are united. Which he then takes out, curiously enough, exactly as Rudra did repeatedly, by having his henchmen whip the naga chinna off his back.

Secondly, if he does believe Shivanand, Dansh will just have to keep him in a captivity with that laser on his head. Then, unless Rudra stumbles into a rabbit hole, like Alice in Alice in Wonderland, that leads down to Dansh's hideout, he is never going to be able to find the naga lair or his Baba.

Or kill Shivanand outright, which would really be the most sensible thing for Dansh to do under the circumstances, for it would cripple the garuds for keeps. But then Utkarsh will not let him do it; he is too fond of having Shivanand sitting with that laser on his head, shaking all over and making odd noises. Incidentally, when Shivanand was trying to burn the chinna on his head himself, in front of Rudra, there was not a squeak out of him, so why all these sound effects now?


Rudra could not be understood. Has any plans up his sleeve? Well he wears sleeveless shirts.Not just he, no one else can understand his plans either. Incidentally, Rao seems to have taken himself off, for he was nowhere to be seen yesternight.

And what about the Saraswati Kund and the Rao gizmo? Now that they can explore that to their heart's content without Daadi surging up from nowhere and fixing them with a basilisk gaze, Rao, the garuds and Utkarsh seem to have forgotten all about the vilupt Saraswati kas jeev kan.

He just attended someone with bullets when Dansh was walking away with dad and books. Atleast he could have tried to run after his dad. Anyways. Exactly what I felt and said above.

Today, Charles or Katherine? gave an advice that they should try to force Leela to help them. Anything wrong? Nagas are known adversaries. And nothing wrong in making Leela help. Well within Dharma right?

Again, agree 100%, but of course apna Garuda Pramukh must be as mahaan as an Ekta Kapoor heroine. But Tiwari is way off target when he talks of using Leela as a hostage to force Dansh to give back the Books and Shivanand. Fat chance!

I wonder what Rudra's 'model of dharma' is?

Keep on turning the other cheek till you are spinning on your axis like a weathervane in a storm.😉

Shivanand on the other hand has more perseverance and patience than Bhudevi. Tired of seeing him captive. He did say that when all Garudas unite, their power will be huge. Is he giving ideas to Dansh to keep him captive and thereby weaken Garudas?

Precisely, my dear. Foot in the mouth disease!

Of all these, Maimui is cool as a cucumber. Unperturbed by these actions. To be fair, even Rudra is unperturbed. Has lot of confidence.

There is such a thing as over confidence. But what gets me is that he sees no need to explain his actions, especially the way he rescued Leela and how he treats her with kid gloves, to the rest. Maybe he also has got Pramukhitis - yeh mera aadesh hai!!


Leela's dad is confident of his daughter's survival and also little indifferent. But backstory kya hai? Will we ever come to know?

Do you think that is it? My take, as given above, is different.


Writers have done well to bring this uncertainty and differences in Garudas who successfully failed in their maiden adventure. Lovely!!

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