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Posted: 10 years ago
#41
Precisely!

The difference b/w Manik and Pandit is that Manik was an in-your-face "bad boy" and he preferred being in that skin.

Pandit is an out and out pretender! He has become a sexual predator with time and is cleverly concealing it with music. Only the Malhotras are seeing through it.

I said "become" because he wasn't really interested in anything apart from music at first. It started with anger towards Nandini's weakness, snowballed into obsession at making her "perfect" and eventually, lust kicked in.

Also, it was further fueled by Manik and his explicit display of animosity towards him. If Manik wouldn't have been in the picture, he might have just fallen in love with her BUT wouldn't have taken her rejection in a nice manner. That might have driven him to do something outrageous- this is what I make out of the Pandit.

More than Nandini- his obsession is with keeping Nandini apart from the man she loves. The man who also happens to be someone who's unapologetic about his rudeness towards him.

So maybe he tried reverse psychology with Nandini, instead of being nice to her, he was being over-bearing and suffocating. He thought doing that will make her forget Manik.

Hadn't Nandini been always doubtful about herself? Self-blaming comes to her naturally. Add to that a relationship with a messed-up boy- I really don't blame her for losing courage :/ .
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
I can't even think to write like this 😭 out of my capacity..surely nandu is a victim and we all should treat her like that and not blame her
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie



Nandini is already a victim - I stress it again which means all her senses are manipulated by Pandit . If there is Manik's warning which is trying to pick than there is Ams reference to mess it every single time. Reading the profiles of emotional abuse in power places shows how even the victim starts questioning herself if what she is feeling is right or not. Thats how abuse happens.

And again to make sure i am not missing the point.. I am not denying her status of victim.. And nor am i expecting her to be perfect.. She is allowed to err.. But the issue is not tackled well thats my problem.. We are left to assume just too many things to be able to see the issue objectively.. Its too open for each and every person to interpret like they want.. And depending on what they interpret, they can either relate to scenes or they cant..

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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
@Pri - Initial episodes - When Manik was touching her especially when he entered her room and traced her arm while she was sleeping? Was that a bad touch too? But she never reacted to it, heck she never did when Manik egged her , bullied her. She never fought back or took his touch as the bad one. Did Manik crossed his "line as a man" because he was a complete stranger then. Unlike Pandit who makes it confusing and uses familiarity.

Why a month, because Pandit never initiated it before so openly. It was last episode where his actions seemed to have gone one step ahead. He was otherwise using all bullying tactics and useing force to intimidate her. it was only this time, he tried going for soft touches . 1 episode . Denials are always there even when others scream about it because if there is Manik's voice saying one thing, there is Dhruv-Principal negating it , along with Ams assurance about Pandit. So many voices in her head, she trusts Manik's version but she is looking for her own tangibles.


I could count the touches - First one happened during the time they were handling the veena . Every innocent gesture nothing suggesting lines of any kind were crossed.
Another when he took the paper out, she gave him the look clearly questioning him with her eyes which is why he blames the paper and diverts with Ams.
3rd was the hair thing, which she never saw but she heard what Manik said but there was nothing in it which can suggest it was creepy.
4th- Now the classroom fainting time.

4 touches that is for you, excluding the one Nandini did when she stopped him from intervening in fab5 fight.

Out of these touches- only the last one is where she clearly saw something majorly different. She saw it as crossing the line as a teacher . This is the shift. From all the previous touches he gave her which she ignored as accidents.


So if say Nandini never thought Manik crossed a line during the intitial episodes- if she bases it on that would Pandit touch not seem as him not trying to cross that line. He touched her when she was fainting. Classroom looking thing got completely overruled because everyone else didn't think it was wrong. Is it because we knew Manik is the hero so we waited while with Pandit we are aware that he is a abuser , hence we want nandini to perceive it already.

Manik said he was wiping her tears- is it big enough to accuse someone of being a lecher? Or crossing the line as a man?

It's not about the month, but the touches- if we count that and view her reactions, see the nature of them. We will know , while she was always alert, they never were conclusive enough to even be considered more than accidental touches.
Only last one could be defined as suspicious behaviour. Otherwise it always seemed like an angry teacher reprimanding a student.


Tell me how was Nandini smart when right after punching Manik, she bought in his lies of friendship and took the lift for him? Naivety again. If she was smart she would not easily be manipulated by Manik- he showed it again when he tricked her with the water bottles.

Naivety is also Nandini's character sketch just as much. And they have highlighted through Harshad, Manik and Nyo that Nandini can easily be manipulated, so why is it hard to see Pandit's work on her.

Like I said, emotional abuse is very subjective. Not denying it needs audience to extrapolate but for me when she was bullied by a person of higher authority especially keeping Nandu's track about the same, it wasn't hard to relate.

Like Manik says she takes things at face value and she is doing that exactly here.



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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
N i missed a beautiful post n reading it this late...shame on me...

Thanq for making this post Ginie...👏


I was always sure abt the fact that she has become a victim in this case...
She has been in trouble from day 1 but this Pandit thing is a bit different...n from day 1 when Pandit entered i m trying to say he is creep but no one listen to me...

He has started his tactics long back but everyone is ignoring it...all think that only looking at her ear doesnt make him creep,or discouraging her every now n then ,taunting her abt her music,Manik n etc...staring at her etc etc many things happened

N i will highlight this point that Nandu has felt n understud every move or i shud say weird thing of his but she never raised her voice bcz he is a teacher...
n now she has been overpowered or i shud say pressurised by every person around her which is not allowing her to raise her voice ...infact she gave a look to him everytime he touched her or did something weird but that cant b told to anyone even if she do then things can go against her...So yes she is a victim

Her doubts r been covered smartly bcz of which her vision abt the fact is getting blur...

I m very bad at expressing my view but tried

only one thing i ll say that u read my mind n wrote my heart thats it...

Thanq somuch for making this post n making understand ppl abt what is actually Nandini's state of mind or situation...u nailed it 👏👏👏👏

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