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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello guys,
We often talk about how selfish Ragini's kids are...when it comes to their own happiness, they dont care abot Ragini's hardwork and the sacrifices she has made..I was thinking if Aarav and Neeshi have a behavioural problem,there has to be some root causes behind it. Somewhere I feel that Ragini has failed as a mother.

A mother is the first person to understand the emotions of her kids. But here I never saw Ragini taking even a minute to analyse what's going in her kids' mind. Either she is always lost in her own past, or she is fussy for no strong reason. There have been so many genuine people around her who truly care for her like her mother, Aman, Sunny Tai but I found it strange when she said to Aman that " koi mere care kare iski mujhe aadat nahi hai".. We should give it a thought that why are her kids trying to find love at this young age outside of the home. I think because they have been deprived of this emotion. Ragini might have made a lot of sacrifices to meet the ends but why cant she express some love to her kids sometimes? Why she doesnt laugh with them or have a light moment with them just for their sake? She has always been shown too strict with her kids like a hostel warden, she can be rude to Aman here and there because he is her friend, she also yelled at her mother.

Before doing all this, she should give it a thought that getting a divorce was their decision, noone else should suffer because of her unhappiness with the decision especially the kids. She is mostly gloomy, sad, irritated at small things. These things regularly affect the psychological behaviour of the kids, and, hence, here we see the selfishness in the kids. Neeshi and Aarav have hinted many times that "maa aap kuch samjhna nahi chahti ho bas faisla suna deti ho" ..i think its hinting towards how Ragini would have minunderstood Neil without knowing the background story.. Last week when she asked Aarav to apologize to Ranbeer, I found it very insensitive of her, because she should have handled the situation properly in a mutual way. Something like " please tum dono apni sister ke liye aaj ye sab mat karo".. I am sure Aarav would have felt a little better with this. Teenage love is very complicated, so instead of shouting at her son who is suffering with the rejection of his love, she should try to be sensitive to him and make him understand properly.

PS: I really love Neil and Ragini's jodi but Ragini a lot of times frustates me with her behaviour.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes, she has been a little negative with her children. She is actually always lost in her past. When she got separated she should have told herself that she would live in her future not in her past. But she is living in her past. Also, Nishi would have never went to her father for help if she got enough support from her mother. Also, the falling in love at such young age. It is actually true. We learned it in literature that people who lack parent love often try to find it outside.
Agree with your points but Neil has not also been a good father. He has also been frozen all the time. He never went to their childern graduation or anything like that. He is not that good either.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree with whatever you've written.
I think they're trying to show how divorce has an adverse affect on children, it leaves them craving for love.
Both nachiket and ragini have somehow failed to give that love to them, atleast ranbir, agham and suhaani had pam in the form of a mother but nishi and aarav lacked that too!
So i feel this is their point of showing the divorce and its after effect on children.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good points.
I would like to point out one thing though - Ragini never asked Nishi not to marry out of love. She requested her to wait for a few years and complete her education first, and then get married to Jignesh. it's not as if she didn't support her daughter. Her stance may be out of the fact that she herself had married at a very early age, and her entire world had collapsed by the time she was in her mid 20s. It was her experience and not her no support to her daughter.

Yes, she could have not forced Aarav to say sorry to Ranbir, who is actually a fake. But Shilpa herself has chosen Ranbir and Ararv is just behaving like a little boy asking for his favourite toy from his Mother. Aaron's seeking Nachiket's advice is absolutely justified, even if his parents are separated. But his lamentation that nobody understands him at home is way too much, I feel. Ragini, inspite of being a singleMom, has tried to prove for her share of the family, given the constraints.

yes, she has not moved on from her past, but has not compromised her family. The very example being that Nishi and Aarav do not bear hatred for their Father. In contrast, Ranbir bears immense hatred for his Mother and is willing to destroy his Mother's happiness and his younger Brother's happiness just tot make revenge. What could be more wrong? Yes, N may not have probably sewed venom, but Pam did.


If R feels like he suddenly lost his Mother for no fault of his, Nishi should also feel the same for her Father and bear a grudge within.

And yes, I still feel Aarav could have waited for some time more. And could have approached N alone, when others were not around. R had had to be tough because she was being both a Mother and Father at the same time, while for Nachiket, Pam was filling in upto certain extent.

Children of single parents, especially Mothers, are usually so protective and understanding of their Mothers, in real life.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic

Good points.

I would like to point out one thing though - Ragini never asked Nishi not to marry out of love. She requested her to wait for a few years and complete her education first, and then get married to Jignesh. it's not as if she didn't support her daughter. Her stance may be out of the fact that she herself had married at a very early age, and her entire world had collapsed by the time she was in her mid 20s. It was her experience and not her no support to her daughter.

Yes, she could have not forced Aarav to say sorry to Ranbir, who is actually a fake. But Shilpa herself has chosen Ranbir and Ararv is just behaving like a little boy asking for his favourite toy from his Mother. Aaron's seeking Nachiket's advice is absolutely justified, even if his parents are separated. But his lamentation that nobody understands him at home is way too much, I feel. Ragini, inspite of being a singleMom, has tried to prove for her share of the family, given the constraints.

yes, she has not moved on from her past, but has not compromised her family. The very example being that Nishi and Aarav do not bear hatred for their Father. In contrast, Ranbir bears immense hatred for his Mother and is willing to destroy his Mother's happiness and his younger Brother's happiness just tot make revenge. What could be more wrong? Yes, N may not have probably sewed venom, but Pam did.


If R feels like he suddenly lost his Mother for no fault of his, Nishi should also feel the same for her Father and bear a grudge within.

And yes, I still feel Aarav could have waited for some time more. And could have approached N alone, when others were not around. R had had to be tough because she was being both a Mother and Father at the same time, while for Nachiket, Pam was filling in upto certain extent.

Children of single parents, especially Mothers, are usually so protective and understanding of their Mothers, in real life.



Great points. And Ragini has been shown as loving to both kids, she may not be very demonstrative but she is definitely not shown as withholding love, several scenes with Nishi and a couple with Aarav too. No loving scenes of Neil with his kids except Nishi.

And one cannot blame the behavior of the kids on the parents, to some degree, yes, nurturing plays a great role but parenting alone is not enough to motivate the kid to behave in a certain fashion. Aagam or Aarav could never behave like Ranbir, hurting their sibling to get back at their parent. Nishi would never get back at her dad by hurting Suhani. Ranbir is just a bad enough apple that circumstances swayed his innate leaning towards being able to do bad things to the extreme. Neither Neil nor Ragini can be blamed entirely for all the faults of their children.

Yes, they have both been lost in the past, it has affected the way they relate to their children and to the rest of the world, they are withdrawn, frozen so to speak in terms of emotions. Yet, neither has shirked their duty, neither have not given love or support when needed.

Ragini walked in on Aarav manhandling Ranbir and asked him to aplogize, it is Aarav's sister's wedding, Ranbir is a guest and Aarav should not be pushing Ranbir around physically however evilly Ranbir is behaving. Nothing wrong in that, she cannot control Ranbir, she can control Aarav, she does not want a scene at Nishi's pag phera and she is ensuring that by asking Aarav to apologize and back off.

As for teenage unrequited love, if she is harsh with Aarav, she needs to be, being a Majnu at 16, not interested in studies, insisting on marrying Shilpa who does not love him but prefers his brother, definitely needs some tough love. That is what Ragini gave Aarav. Nishi will learn too the hard way that married life with Jignesh is not a bed of roses. Her dad is not going to come running to help her, it will be Ragini's problem again.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Interesting topic and discussions!
Ragini's method is always the 'bitter pill'. She does not mind playing the villain to straighten things.

Her thoughts, actions and decisions are driven by her experiences - which are not very good. She feels she has had many major failures in her life, suffered a lot and does not want her kids to have a similar situation at any cost. Her decisions are always driven by that. So she rules the household with an iron fist.

But the other side of the coin is that - kids rebel against that. That is the reaction we are seeing from Nishi and Aarav.

Ragini is broken inside - she just lives in a shell that can't give much.. With the emotional constraints and circumstances and she has tried to be the best within that.. Coming from Nishi and Aarav's perspective, it is difficult to understand Ragini while appreciation is far far away.

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