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Hi there-
Thanx to share my point. But ThE_khan, u have not actual idea abt the DARGAH meaning is ! I know very well that in Bangladesh/Pakistan & India .sooooooooooooo many DARGAAH culture/they r very much used to. Read carefully pls to my first topic!
Hajaro Insaan mil ke kuchh kar ne se kuchh SAACH to nehi ho jata or nahi SAHI ho jata....I have also said that IT IS A IMITATE COPYING.....culture, not it is a true rules ! Even it has been forbidden by our original RELIGION !
DARGAH means -any known or unknown wise person who was devoted to this RELIGION (not always, there r so many controversies with this, u know better if u r in Bangladesh, some r very untrue vigue/false shrines there /if u read the some novels from ur country-LAL SHALUā¦ABDULLAH)> May be in his life time there was so many followers to followed his works & so many stuffs has done by them BUT after his death there is no power no clues no intention can comes to wards of his followers ! A DEAD person can DO nothing !
AND of course the Muslims can go to the shrines but ONLY for the reason to pray /perform some DOA to ALLAH to do something FOR THAT DEAD person , not for seeking their personal goodluck or help from that DEAD person !
DEAD persons need the doas from the alive person who can pray to ALLAH'S forgiveness for that DEAD person who could be a peer/ fakir/darbesh or could be our relatives ā¦BUT never the dead persons MAJAR/DARGAH or SHRINE comes to us LIKE a worshiping OR PRAY centre ā¦.THE show was telling us that if u want to say ur pray any mannte wishes to go that DARGAH for their kindness ā¦.as maximum sub continentals r doing very wrongly !
IF ISLAM is like that or if In ISLAM is ordered or approved that process to do is right then ā¦why shouldn't the other parts of this world ā¦so many ARABIAN countries r not following this, even no where is any shrine too.I wanna say that IT IS A WRONG VERSION wrong way presenting ISLAMI CULTURE!!! IT means it is a SHIRK ! THE dead person needs alive persons DOA ā¦because they r helpless now but the alive person need the kindness of ALLAH directly by their pray not seeking kindness from any dead person by performing a SEJDAAH .
ALLAH ki siwa koi kisiko kei se sejdaah kar saak te hei ? who bhi KABARSTAAN ko ? DARGAAH is a shrine means kisikaa KABAR only !!! agar eisa hi hota or yeh jayaz hota to all MUSLIM jaake Hajrat Mohammad (sl) ki Mazar ko sejdaah nehi karate kya ? Oye Saudi Arabian governments with all other MUSLIM countries gadhe hei kyaa ? ki yeh chances miss kaar deta ?
YEH sarasar NAJAYEZ hei isiliye HAMARi AKHERI nabi (sl) ki Majar ko hifajaat se rakkhe gaya hei ..ki koi isika PUJA na kaar dale ā¦unhe daar thaa ke eisa ho saak ta hei isiliye barri saakh ti se unhone mana kar ke gaye hei ki ei sa naa hoā¦sirf ISILIye aaj tak all nabi & other most important persons for MUSLIMS /unn logokaa majar r very restricted for aam blind /unaware Muslims ..bacha ke rakkha hei ..from PUJAAā¦..
FOR ur kind information ājit naa bhi Shrine /Majar/dargaah hei INDIA +PAKISTAN + BANGLADESH mei pls be concentrate that is- all persons who came to this sub continental only TEACHING ISLAM ā¦.converting into MUSLIM ā¦.they were suppose to be a teacher to be aware & establish ISLAM here /because in this sub continent there was NO NABI /PAIGAMBERS was born or came ā¦ā¦ā¦these all DARGAH -MAJAR are only those persons who were the Strictly follower of ISLAM , very much close to ISLAM from any sahaba e keram or via any linkage of those personā¦.every one CAME to INDIA /PAKISTAN & BANGLA DESH for establishing ISLAM ā spreading ISLAM & PREACH the ISLAMā¦.BUT unfortunately the followers became worshiper to themā¦not their quotesā¦.after their death all SHRINE became a MANDIRā¦name DARGAH /MAJAR & the people r doing the same old things before they came here to forbid them doing this nonsense ! HOW shame that is all forgotten !!!
Aour aab hum uchi awaz se yeh bhi keh rahe hei ki saab chalta hei saab karta hei in BANGLADESH !!! agar all Bangladeshi r doing the right things to baaki ke sab kya buddhu hei ki woh log nehi kaar raahe hei ā¦they r missing big stuffs ! ALL R FOOL ????? kisi ke dimaag mei yeh kiyu nehi ata hei ki kuchh stuffs only āits happens only in sub continental , KIYU ???? Yeh jo shrines hei yeh kis ka hei ..aour kiyu hei ????
YEH koun hei kaha se aye thee aour kiyu ayethe ???? aour hum saab iska puja kiyu kaar rahe hei ??? iska majar ka PUJA hi agar kaar na hei to behtaar to yeh hei ki hum jaake MACCA mei haaj kiyu kaar ne jate hei only..woha jaake hamari Muslim o kaa saab se barra Holly man great NABIJI (SL) majar ko jiyarat ki bagayer PUJA kiyu nehi karate ?
Yeh chhoti si baat aap Bangla desheio or INDIAN /Pakistanio ko kiyu nehi ata hei ? aare bhaai saab se pyara saab se barra sab se holy majar dargaah yaa shrine to Hajraat Mohammad(sl) kaa hi hei naa ā to wohaa jaake chadar charhana / sejdaah kaarna aour mayur ki pankh se hawa lagana kiyu nehi hotaa ji ? kabhi socha hei aapne ?
Agar only majar jiyarat ke niyat ho to woh saahi hei ..eisi ki.. app jaao kisike holy person ke majar ko/ yaa aap ki relatives ke majar ko aour USS dead person ke LIYE ALLAH se DOA maanngoā¦ki YAA AllAH usse baakshe /maaf kare panah dei deā¦ but NOT for that KI AAPP woha jaao APKI koi aisi niyaat se khwaish se kiā¦ AGAR aap chadar charhao arr sejdaah karo to who dead person aapke like ALLAH se suparish kaar dega ki yaa Allh tere yeh bandaa MUJHHE SEJDAAH kaar rahe hei too khoosh hojaa ā¦.
So never ever it is right to sejdaah any one none other than ALLAH ā¦kisi ko bhi Nehiā¦NOT A SINGLE PERSON /kabar/majar/dargah ā¦WHO OR WHOM IT IS ā¦. Jo kiya ja raha hei /dikhaya ja raha hei Who saaahi NEHI HEIā¦not any meaning not any side / jo hota hei hote aa raha hei ALL is WRONG !!! V E R Y much WRONG interpretationā¦.
Don't support any thing without knowing any clear idea or proper knowledge on it PLS !
A dargah (Persian: ????) is a Sufi shrine built over the grave of a revered religious figure, often a Sufi saint. Local Muslims visit the shrine known as (ziyarat). Dargahs are often associated with Sufi meeting rooms and hostels, known as khanqah. They often include a mosque, meeting rooms, schools (Madrassas), residences for a teacher or caretaker, hospitals, and other buildings for community purposes.
The term is derived from a Persian word which can mean, among other uses, "portal" or "threshold". Many Muslims believe that dargahs are portals by which they can invoke the deceased saint's intercession and blessing (see Tawassul).
Shrines are found in many Muslim communities throughout the world, and called by many names (see ziyarat). The term dargah is common in the Persian-influenced Islamic world, notably Iran and South Asia.
In South Africa, the term is used to describe shrines in the Durban area where there is a strong Indian presence, while the term keramat is more commonly used in Cape Town, where there is a strong Cape Malay culture.
In the Indian subcontinent, dargahs are often the site of festivals (Milad) held in honor of the deceased saint at the date of his Urs, which is a day dedicated to the saint which usually falls on the saint's death anniversary. The shrine is illuminated with candles or strings of electric lights.
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There are many miracles that have happened during the life of Pir Haji Ali Shah Bukhari {R.A} and after his death. It is a belief of the Muslims as mentioned in the Quran Sheriff that the Holy Saints who sacrifice and devoted their lives in the way of Allah never die and one should not call them dead. They are alive in the graves and get their food and necessities from Allah.
It is learnt from reliable sources that Pir Haji Ali Shah Bukhari {R.A} was Qutub-E-Akbar. Whatever is known about miracles is learnt from the caretakers and trustees from generation as the Saint had never married and had no descendents. Some people tried to display themselves as his descendants or heirs and have destroyed the exact history of the saint, his tomb and Dargah.
Oil and the Lady : It is learnt from rivayat {being told by the people} that Pir Haji Ali Shah Bukhari {R.A} was sitting at some lone place and was busy in his prayers when one lady passed from there crying and screaming. When the Saint enquired about her crying she told the Saint by pointing to an empty vessel and said that she had dropped some oil from the vessel and that if she goes home without the oil her cruel husband would treat her badly and that's why she was crying in need of help. The Saint asked her to be calm and went with her to the place where the oil had been dropped and then he took the vessel from her and pushed the earth with his thumb and the oil came out like a fountain and the vessel was full. The Saint gave her the vessel with oil and she went away happily. But at the same time the earth told the Saint that he had pushed it and had given it trouble and some day when he would be buried it might take revenge of this. The Saint then realized that he had committed a mistake and from that day he became very serious and was not keeping well.
The Pathway : Before his death he advised his followers that they should not burry Him at any proper place or graveyard and should drop his coffin that it should be buried by the people where and when it is found so that is why his tomb is in the middle of the sea where some stones over a small mountain were lying above the sea. The present chairman informs it and managing trustee, Mr. A. S. Merchant that earlier there was no pathway in the sea and people collected stones and made a temporary path during low tide. During high tide however the path was destroyed. In 1944 his father Mohammad Haji Aboobakar who was appointed trustee by The Attorney General, Goverment of Bombay had decided to build a permanent pathway but he was hesitant as he was not sure if the path would withstand the sea fury during the monsoon season almost all the roads of Mumbai become rough and have potholes but till today the pathway of the Dargah has never been damaged or unsafe for the people to reach the Dargah Sheriff. This is one of the biggest miracles of the saint hundreds of years after his death.
Miracles of the Dargah : In 1949 there was a big storm in Mumbai, which had not left a single building without the slightest damage, but there was no damage to the Dargah, sanatorium or the pathway. There were waves of the size of mountain and most people were scared that they would drown. They then bowed down at the wall of the Dargah, said their prayer and there was lightening on the waves and the people returned home without any harm to themselves or to their property.
It is learned from the thousands of visitors and devotees who have visited the tomb of the Saint that with proper faith and belief they have achieved whatever they have had asked for from the Saint blessings.
During the heavy rains on 26th July 2005 there was a huge destruction over most of the part of Mumbai but the Haji Ali Dargah was not affected by this incident.
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