Shashi Tharoor: Are we afraid of taking..

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Posted: 17 years ago
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risks? Fortunately maine yeh article padh liyaa aaj ke TOI mein, kya apt article likha hai unhone...šŸ‘

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/S_Tharoor_Are_we_afraid_o f_risks/articleshow/2291609.cms

The temptation to see, in Indian cricket, metaphors for larger issues in our national life (secularism and diversity, for instance) is often irresistible. It is one to which I have succumbed in the past — even while being conscious that one should always be wary of making too much of anything that transpires on that theatre of the fleeting, the sports field.

In January I wrote about my epiphany about the new India during the first cricket Test against South Africa in Johannesburg. Sreesanth's extraordinary hit over Nel's head for six — in reaction to the South African paceman's attempt to intimidate him — encapsulated, I argued then, all that is different about the new India: courage, assertiveness, a refusal to be cowed, a willingness to take risks and ultimately the confidence to stand up to the best that the outside world can flung at us — well beyond the cricket field.

It turns out I spoke too soon. I have just spent the better part of five days watching India's cricketing leaders sell themselves, and the country, short at the Oval. After piling up a lead of 319 in the first innings, Rahul Dravid declined to enforce the follow-on against a demoralised and all-but-beaten England team. Dravid, a man I used to respect, sought to justify this pusillanimous decision by claiming his bowlers were tired.

This, despite the pace bowlers having had a good night's rest before the end of the England first innings, and having bowled barely 20 overs each in the previous day. I have heard from reliable sources that our bowlers were in fact raring to go: the disgraceful decision was not theirs but was sought to be pinned on them. There is only word for that, and it is not a pretty one.

The logic of the decision, according to its defenders, was simple: one-up in the series, India wanted to eliminate the slightest chance of losing. But there were barely two days left, and a gigantic lead: while nothing is impossible in cricket, a defeat was next to inconceivable. England had their backs to the wall: they had shown no capacity to bat through two days. They would have had to make 500 in record time to set us a target, and then bowl us out in two sessions, to win.

This would have called for such an abject performance by India with both bat and ball, against the run of play in the entire series, as to be improbable: even in a fantasy scenario for England, the best likely outcome for them would have been a draw.

But by batting again, India completely undermined itself. The drooping shoulders of the English team received a perceptible lift: then, when Indian wickets clattered, the formerly demoralised Englishmen were energised. Instead of having to bat through two days to save the Test, their batsmen only needed to survive a bit over one day. The decision also signalled to the opposition that the Indian team leadership did not have enough faith in its own bowlers to bowl the English out a second time, and in its own batsmen to chase a possible 100-run target in the fourth innings.

When you have so little faith in yourself, why should your opponents fear you? Dravid's decision emboldened his opponents; they played in their second innings like men who had just learned that they did not need to respect their adversaries.

If this self-inflicted belittling was shameful enough, even sadder than all this was the complete lack of the will to win. The Indian captain knew, of course, that not enforcing the follow-on made a draw the most likely outcome, and he didn't mind. As long as we can win the series 1-0, Dravid and his ilk must have told themselves, what is the need to try to win 2-0? This was exactly the sort of thinking that had abased India in the bad old days, when India routinely played out meaningless draws out of fear of defeat. By being afraid of losing, we helped our opponents not to lose.

The gutlessness of the decision was sought to be defended as one that could only be appreciated on the field of battle. "If I was sitting in an armchair," Dravid said, "I too might have disagreed with the decision." (By that logic every actor can reject every theatre critic's view of his performance.) But many experienced cricketers I spoke to at the time saw it for what it was. Dravid's own embarrassing innings of 12 off 96 balls, the slowest dozen runs ever made in the history of Test cricket, was emblematic of the problem.

The cricketer Steve James described it as a "pedestrian innings" which "portrayed a man full of fret and fear". England, he added, "can thank the Indian captain's timidity".
When I wrote about what Sreesanth's attitude betokened, I stressed that it didn't matter that India lost that Test series, because my point was not about cricket. It was about a state of mind — a state of mind that will also change the Indian state.

What Sreesanth demonstrated in Johannesburg was an attitude that has transformed the younger generation into a breed apart from its parents'. It is the attitude of an India that can hold its nerve and flex its sinews, an India whose self-confidence is rooted in the sober certitude of self-knowledge, an India that says to the future, "come on; I am not afraid of you."

Dravid demonstrated, haplessly, that the dead hand of the older India still clings on — an India that is afraid to take risks for fear of failure, an India without the courage of self-belief, an India that is all too willing to settle for 1-0 than go for 2-0. This is the India that did a deal with the Kandahar hijackers rather than the India that threw out the intruders of Kargil. We have the capacity to be, in any field of national endeavour, both kinds of country. But I have no doubt that the attitude I saw on the fourth day of the Oval Test is unworthy of what the real India is shaping up to be.

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Fantastic article, it summed up my thoughts also. Infact after watching Chak De...mujhe aur gussa aata hai cricket team par. The kind of adulation, fame and most imp MONEY they get compared to other sports...uske muqable their performance is almost NIL. This also applies to our Foreign policy, Defence policy...everything. Chinese Ambassador audaciously claims Arunachal Pradesh as a part of China...and we don't even protest. Pak keeps on abetting anti India activities aur hum bhaichare ki baat karte hain. Same is our attitude towards large scale Bangladeshi infiltration in NE and other parts of India...hum reaction, "don't care". We delay our Missile/Nuclear programmes under US pressure. We don't want to implement Uniform Civil Code bec'se we are afraid of offending some communities. We don't want to roll back reservations, votes nahin milenge otherwise.

Matlab ki hum mandir ke ghante ki tarah hai, jiska jee aata hai bajaa kar chala jaata hai. 🤢

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Posted: 17 years ago
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At times I think we believe the ostrich's approach i.e. 'bury your head in the sand till it goes away' is actually our national motto. But see what they did to poor Sreesanth. He has been sent back so that he can change his attitude.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yeah, likes of Gavaskar need to change their attitude. Cricket is no longer gentleman's game. No game is actually. It is a fiercly fought sport now, you need to be physically and mentally strong, you need to counter mind games that others play. Like SRK says in Chak De, "Agar woh do (2) maare to tum chaar (4) maaro"..this should be the our teams' attitude.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Fantastic article, it summed up my thoughts also. Infact after watching Chak De...mujhe aur gussa aata hai cricket team par. The kind of adulation, fame and most imp MONEY they get compared to other sports...uske muqable their performance is almost NIL. This also applies to our Foreign policy, Defence policy...everything. Chinese Ambassador audaciously claims Arunachal Pradesh as a part of China...and we don't even protest. Pak keeps on abetting anti India activities aur hum bhaichare ki baat karte hain. Same is our attitude towards large scale Bangladeshi infiltration in NE and other parts of India...hum reaction, "don't care". We delay our Missile/Nuclear programmes under US pressure. We don't want to implement Uniform Civil Code bec'se we are afraid of offending some communities. We don't want to roll back reservations, votes nahin milenge otherwise.

Matlab ki hum mandir ke ghante ki tarah hai, jiska jee aata hai bajaa kar chala jaata hai. 🤢

Well Said..šŸ‘šŸ¼

The most important thing is....In india mentality of people has changed People started believing on themselves which is sign of self dependent.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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most of the elders of our country are very defensive minded

As a captain Rahul Dravid is 10 times more conservative and timid than Sourav Ganguly

If Sourav was the captain, he would have defended Sreesanth

There is a difference between being timid and being conservative

Gavaskar was never timid in his playing days, but he was conservative, he was speaking from a conservative standpoint, he has acted as crazily as Sreesanth in his playing days, buddha ho gaya hai Sunny šŸ˜†
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i think we need leaders who can stand tall, like a kapil dev. not weak leaders like gavaskar and dravid who might be (questionably) good at their craft but cannot inspire people. ever seen their body language? it's like making a nerd a CEO of a company. results are generally predictable šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜†
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Rahul - Bowlers thak gaye they

Bullshit, Zaheer himself said it was not the case. So definitely bowlers weren't consulted by the captain. Asal baat yeh hai ki humaari mahaan batting lineup ki haath mein aa gayi thi. They were scared of batting in the last ining. Yeh team kya jeetegi, isme to jaan hi nahin hai. Australia se dhulaai karwa ke waapis aayegi. Inn logo ko apne comfort zone mein rehne ki aadat ho gayi hai.

We need performances like these...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapil_Dev

India's tour of Australia in 1980-81 had the looks of the familiar Indian series as India were 1-0 down and were defending a meagre 143 runs and Kapil Dev virtually ruled out with a groin injury. When Australia finished the fourth day at 18/3, Kapil willed himself to play the final day with pain-killing injections and removed the dangerous Australia middle order. Kapil won the match for India with the innings bowling performance of 16.4-4-28-5, a bowling performance that figures in his five best bowling performance.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Fantastic article, it summed up my thoughts also. Infact after watching Chak De...mujhe aur gussa aata hai cricket team par. The kind of adulation, fame and most imp MONEY they get compared to other sports...uske muqable their performance is almost NIL. This also applies to our Foreign policy, Defence policy...everything. Chinese Ambassador audaciously claims Arunachal Pradesh as a part of China...and we don't even protest. Pak keeps on abetting anti India activities aur hum bhaichare ki baat karte hain. Same is our attitude towards large scale Bangladeshi infiltration in NE and other parts of India...hum reaction, "don't care". We delay our Missile/Nuclear programmes under US pressure. We don't want to implement Uniform Civil Code bec'se we are afraid of offending some communities. We don't want to roll back reservations, votes nahin milenge otherwise.

Matlab ki hum mandir ke ghante ki tarah hai, jiska jee aata hai bajaa kar chala jaata hai. 🤢

Deepak! Please Pm me the tips for searching good articles..😊

Coming back to the topic for the debate:

  1. We need a strong leader like Sardar Patel or Indira who is capable of implementing the decisions with fearlessness..but....
  2. Reg Foreign policy..India has been playing safe...that might be the reason ..for its successful 60years of Independence....the achievement is considerable..once the country becomes strong..then it can implement its decisions perfectly..unnecessary disputes with fellow nations or G(r)8 only result in unnecessary sanctions and subsequently severe loss.......
  3. But Castro of CUBA is a great example.....

ROTFL at the comment "Mandir ki Ghante..."

Cheers,

Mythili

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree with all of you. When I saw India batting again I was just stunned. Why'd someone with a huge lead of 319 runs not enforce follow-on?? It not only shows the defensive mindset of Dravid but also as Sashi Tharoor says means that Dravid was simply happy with one win where he could have two. Moreover the captain let the efforts of all the players go to waste because of his silly decision which is really shameful.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Is this topic only wrt sports 😔..I don't understand sports and particularly that Cricket much..except for that 4,6,out and duck out..😭😭😭

So the topic is about the Indian Mentality and the levels of Risk taking in all the fields..inculding cricket field😊

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