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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

I watched the episode.. sagey much later than the rest of the folks and only when I was convinced that there is a morning after scene with Aahil without his shirt😆😉

But reading your post, I did not see any strong remorse, reaction or self loathing. I did not even hear him say 'I love Sanam'😕 He was a upset but a lot less than when she dropped the elusive flower pot/holy chaddar😆
Sometimes i interpret scenes by putting words into expressed emotions like a story... When I do that, I usually put them in italics, my response in brackets <>.

But, he looked horrified when he woke up with her next to him, finding lip prints all over him. He actually said the words, "I'm in love with Sanam... What are you doing here...!"

He was about to get up , and what looked like an impending tantrum, then she stopped him with a hand on his arm, and a stare into his eyes. And he immediately piped down.

But when she explained her version of what happened, he actually registered shock in his eyes, his body in some sort of a trance. Then Tanveer came in an almost congratulated him for "accepting" his wife properly.

He heard what was said, understood it, but didn't react outwardly. Other than walking out of there.

I am not sure if this reaction they wanted to show and KV could not pull it off or they did not want any strong reaction at all. With regards to Aahil they always show his inner talks. Here they did not. So sorry for saying, but it seems as if it is in your mind Sage😳😉
If KV is expected to show strong inner turmoil, he always is able to. But here he was not expected to , hence he did not show.

The black magic used, the exact methodology I am not well versed in😆, but it looked like he was in a trance. But his eyes expressed understanding of what was suggested to him.
Also, I don't think he was avoiding eye contact with Sanam at all. He was just very much into taking care of Ammi. Also, if he has felt he has wronged Sanam, he'd be extra polite with Sanam. Not be in the regular pissed mode.
Perhaps you feel differently.
Yes, he was very concerned that Ammi was in pain. But watch the scene again. That point when he yells "Stop it Sanam!" Watch his eyes when he looked at her. His mouth was saying, "Ammi is hurt, and you're going on and on ..."

Maybe there was nothing, maybe its just what I wanted to see... 😆

I feel I am the only one who hated Seher's dialog. It was according to me very insulting for not just Aahil but also Sanam. So we all know he was a player, but will he continue to have liaisons outside 'his coveted bedroom' and how is that OK? it really was cheap. totally not needed... so Sanam ought to be grateful that no woman has gotten onto Ahil's bed?? seriously in trying to insult that other woman, she insulted her sister and BIL more.
Well who knows, sanam2 is already in the bedroom. No one knew if she slept on bed or sofa. they have been discreet about it.

Seher played the biatch to fight the biatch. Power play.
Sanam2 was goading Sanam and flaunting her one night with Aahil to break Sanam.

Sanam didn't bother to acknowledge her perceived new status. Lateef wasn't impressed either.

Seher was willing to fight dirty, that's all. It was cheap, yes. But that's the game Sanam2 was playing...

I do not think the story is focusing on Sanam and Ahil at all now. the SR was only to establish Sanam2's dangerousness and Tanveer's realization on the extent this can go. Frankly I feel a real SR would have been a lot better. It would have achieved the purpose with better punch.
I was worried when Seher announced, "Oh, Aahil has shared a bed with many women. But that bed in his room, That, is reserved exclusively for Sanam..."

Oh dear, i thought, now she'll move in there. *facepalm*

right now it looks like Aahil does not really care. I choose to not ignore that he looked really calm when speaking to his Ammi and also while leading her inside. He does not feel he has betrayed Sanam at all.

The glee in Sanam2's face when this was happening seemed to indicate that she had something to do with that.

I know, that scene left me with a lot of unsatisfied feelings too. I wished Sanam hadn't chosen to confront him right there like that in front of everyone.
will he plan to now confront Sanam. Note that if he feels he has sinned, he will want to come clean. If he chooses not to talk about this with Sanam, then he feels this is not infidelity, which adds the complexity factor in this love story! But I doubt if the CVs can pull this off ... 🥱

That's what I was thinking too!
What will he do now? Will he avoid Sanam, thinking he had cheated on her, therefore he does not deserve her anymore? Or would he just let it slide?

🤢Just thinking about it makes me ill...
I hope Sanam confronts him about it...
Then he will realize that she actually saw him in bed with S2.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

😭 you did not read by marathon reply completely...

Yeah the lipstick marks were a distraction, but not enough to derail my thinking that Aahil was pretty much remorseless.
I wish Seher had convinced Sanam to leave and forget the revenge. I feel at times a time out is best. This is one of those times.
Sehan are planning again😲... Makes me worried. More screw up awaits Sanam. How much more this silly couple will screw up Sanam's life gosh.
Rehan feels Ammi can make Aahil sleep with anyone ... I did not like the disrespect with which rehan and Seher are speaking about Aahil!


I think what Rehan said was "Ammi is one who kept her own child as a servant in her house, she can make anyone do anything. Changing Sanam2's mind is child's play for her..."

Rehan and Seher were comforting a hurting Sanam. They themselves were in that same situation days ago. Rehan probably remembers the horror he felt when he thought it was Seher in Aahil's arms. He was just saying, he won't put anything past his Ammi.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sylvia99

Beautiful post

But his listening and understanding faculties are intact however...(I doubt)

But the shocked expression and screen freezes made me wonder that he actually understood.

Well S2 not only calmed but wiped out the memory of that incident. (I think so)

After she tranced him, was when she explained that he himself came to her, and she could stop herself. He couldn't respond but the understanding and shock was there in his face.

I think the aim is to make Aahil think he had s*x with her, and cheated on Sanam, therefore adding to the guilt and gap between the two. Letting Sanam see that scene, and making Aahil avoid her, or not talk about it, would cause bigger misunderstandings.

It is very unusual for Aahil not to react in such situation (at least while alone).

Anyway we have to wait how the black magic affects... whether it is only for body or mind also. I think she is controlling the speech also because she was staring at Aahil.

I think there will be something where Seher will be affected and Sanam can know the differences. Probably suspect of black magic.

Now what is the role of Tanvir's daughter/son (new one) really out of mind.

I have no idea where that is going😆... it's already crowded in there isn't it??

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sageflower7


That he knows what he did/ may have done, makes me worry.

Will he explain to Sanam? That he doesn't recall what happened, all he knew was he woke up in that state?

Sanam would believe him, after all SHE too woke up in that state few days back...

Would he explain? Would he want to hold on to Sanam, when it appears as though he had wronged her?

This is so messed up!

But Sanam is too genteel and well mannered. I wouldn't have been civil if Sanam2 spoke like that to me.

i dont think so, neither they'll show Aahil repenting over what he did not do , nor will they show SaHil talking about that fateful night 😕 they have gone ahead with the billi's daughter track now 😕

sighs genteel and well mannered Sanam, i prefer the Firebrand Sanam who dint take any shit from anybody, used to give a tit for a tat... sighs 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: flora212

Ok I saw the episode and it looked like...ok lets start with Ahil! His reaction was completely good when he woke up but then that chidiya 🤢 ok I have a question here ! How come Ahil become totally silent and guiltless after that hypnotherapy! ? I mean there was remorse but it somewhat looked like he was confused or his mind became completely inactive. He was acting like What happened or what is going on! When Sanam came running to Ahil at door , Ahil had guilt in his eyes but it looked somewhat wierd! Was he not able to remember what happened? Or was his mind controlled by Chidiya? Cause his behaviour seemed bit wierd and if I didn't mention...his guilt or remorse was not that much as it should be!

Exactly, that's what everyone and Sanam are unhappy about. She even said, "Was he even mine? How did one night change him completely like this? Something is up there...I must find out from him myself"

Which was why she didn't want to engage Sanam2 at all even when goaded.
Between glad Sanam used her brains...she should actually have a talk with Ahil.
Now coming to that Mahaan Seher! What does the hell she think of herself? Khud ki mistake ki toh naam hi nahi par dusro ki pari he! First you remove your own mistakes and then come to lecture chidiya! And I don't understand why Sanam was quit infront of chidiya...she should have replied something back! Or was she controlling her anger and decided to remain silent until she finds out the actual truth? !

She probably knew for sure after her taunt at the entrance that this witch does not mean good at all, and there's no point talking to Tanveer's chamca.

She probably decided that from now on she will only deal with Aahil, and no one else. He is the only one that matters now.
Nice post sage

Thanks Nafs😊

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheImbecile

@JShukla: Aahil did say I love Sanam. Definitely rewatch that part. He said it in panic when he sees the predicament he is in. You may have missed it with all the shirtless-ness. 😉😆

Ok onto you Sagey!

Brilliant post darling! 👏 Smart of you to write this post later. It was that kind of episode where passions needed to be cooled after watching. I was certainly not a happy camper while watching.

I felt so bad for Sanam watching the episode. SHe was so vulnerable after that scene she witnessed. She thought at least Aahil would be remorseful but instead he was yelling !!😭

I think she should refuse to cook anymore. After all she's not being paid is she? Let "wonderful" Bahu come and cook for her Saasuma. 🤢

Honestly kudos to you for watching every single second of this episode so carefully and then analyzing it...I couldn't do it. Especially today.
I have oft pondered why I do this, really😆

Also very true! Zoya had no one to turn to while Sanam does.

I am not sure about Aahil being overtly harsh because he didn't want to deal with the deed he did not commit when Sanam is right in his face about proofs etc - but it's possible. Yes, he loves his ammi and she was in pain, but it's possible for him to not want to deal with it and use his ammi as a buffer from reality. It was the perfect excuse/way to ignore/not deal with Sanam.

That's what i thought ! Just get out of there fast. There was an urgency in his voice and a desperate appeal for time. I may be imagining things (as Juhi thinks😉) but he was saying one thing but his eyes were saying something else.

Anyway, to be in Sanam's shoes... oh gosh, how terrible. to give him a chance to explain only to be rebuffed as though unwanted.

Again, How much more torture for our Sanam?!

How does he deal with something he doesn't even remember/was hypnotized to accept?

Add on the fact that he thinks Sanam does not know. The CVs can really use that to widen the divide, if that's the plan. Sanam knows, he thinks she doesn't...does she get the chance to confront directly as she always has, or does he lie in such a manner that makes her lose faith in his love?

And then there is SeHan's plan to reveal the truth with the sabooth which now is magically in the hands of Tanveer. Probably S2's help. Seher really shouldn't have said anything. There is a reason why your sister kept her silence...typical Zoya maneuver by Seher.

But of course, why does it matter what mistakes the twins make...it's the damn CVs who want to torture us with erratic plots/characters.

I guess we can possibly hope for Holi (March 6th) to signal and bring positive changes in the story? I assume the month of Feb will be for more Sanam2 chaals plus Tanveer's mystery daughter drama revelation?

i can only postulate that they don't want to reveal the current secret so they want to introduce a NEW secret to reveal...*facepalm*

EDITED: Have to concur with Sylvia...what the hell did S2 exactly do to Aahil and his memory/mind? That is not even clear to the audience what she even did exactly.

*sigh* I don't think I have patience for another month of this...
is a few minutes of KV really worth this much aggravation??
I'd be better off watching [V] gumrah...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I watched past eppy where Tanu went to get Sanam 2 inititally and we see this woman whose face was never shown who spoke to Tanu about Sanam 2 bad luck.
The woman seems to be the same one who comes in to tell Tanu her daughter of twenty years is alive.

My guess. It is Sanam 2. That is her daughter. This way the devastation of that news will sicken Aahil into thinking he had sex with his sister. This is where it will come out either by Sanam 2 or Tanu that he actually did not have sex with her.

Seher is a smart cookie. She quickly did her research and probably learnt about where Sanam 2 came from.. maybe by talking to Aahil's driver who took Tanu to the place.

Seher is behind this woman coming back to make the shocking news to the family.

Even KV talked about the siblings that are appearing.
It does not mean that a new character is entering. As Rehaan, his brother was already there, but he only recently found out about. Now he'll learn that Sanam 2 is actually his sister as well.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GitaIyer

Lovely Post Sage. But the episode was anything but lovely. It was downright ugly.

Only if they had not gotten Ahil married to Sanam2, then all this fake or even real SR would've made sense. Now it all appears so lame. Before Ahil can understand/relate to what happened, he goes into a trance.

A witch who can injure and make victims fall without touching them, control the mind and thinking and maybe even memory...😡
And such a woman is Ahil's legally wedded wife. First they need to prove this nikaah invalid. This is clearly not enjoyable.



So true. Ugly.

Seeing Aahil become a puppet to someone who came practically yesterday was so terrible.

Like this she'd be invincible !! She can also sleepwalk Sanam and Seher out of the house and leave right?

The nikaah is valid. He married Sanam Khan, not Sanam Ahmed Khan.

In my community the bride and groom's face is visible to both sides, and the wali of each the bride and groom must be present. This second nikah was totally out and bent all the rules to the point of ridiculousness.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Danitrini

I watched past eppy where Tanu went to get Sanam 2 inititally and we see this woman whose face was never shown who spoke to Tanu about Sanam 2 bad luck.

The woman seems to be the same one who comes in to tell Tanu her daughter of twenty years is alive.

My guess. It is Sanam 2. That is her daughter. This way the devastation of that news will sicken Aahil into thinking he had sex with his sister. This is where it will come out either by Sanam 2 or Tanu that he actually did not have sex with her.

Seher is a smart cookie. She quickly did her research and probably learnt about where Sanam 2 came from.. maybe by talking to Aahil's driver who took Tanu to the place.

Seher is behind this woman coming back to make the shocking news to the family.

Even KV talked about the siblings that are appearing.
It does not mean that a new character is entering. As Rehaan, his brother was already there, but he only recently found out about. Now he'll learn that Sanam 2 is actually his sister as well.


This is probably the best postulation I've heard today about Sanam2.

Finding out Sanam2 is her daughter. And discovering she doesn't have to hold Aahil in a trance to be rich...

But that would make for a really sick twist, wouldn't it? Being married to your half sister? 🤢

The only good thing that will come of this is that Aahil is released from the marriage.
But why didn't the old woman tell Tanveer before when she went looking for an unlucky person for Aahil?

Hmmm...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I just finished watching all of this episode along with Friday's and today's.
I have to say, there was no guilt or thought of what he did with Sanam2 in the first scene. But the later scene where she tries to talk to him again, and he is busy with the Barsi, I thought the acting choice was one wherein which he felt like he couldn't deal with that at the moment, and needed to focus on what's at hand now. He was compartmentalizing and not wanting to deal with it at the moment. You see some of it in the way he looked at Sanam as he talked about her in his speech. It was a mix of emotions, and I think it included sadness at what their relationship has come down to now.
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