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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ecrivain




VD lovely post dear ...

As much as I want to love the show , the issues never cease to exist n I can't love the show as I want to😆

U have written so much on ARZOO dear but the fact remains tht she has a steep learning curve ahead of her ...she needs to learn to handle situations maturely

I know the epis haven't been fantastic ESP the one yesterday but I hope things go up now

It's very unlikely of the PH to show all this ..I am quiet disappointed



Yes I hear you Ecrivain. 😭 one of the main reasons I didn't enjoy this week was exactly as you say, the pr
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ecrivain




VD lovely post dear ...

As much as I want to love the show , the issues never cease to exist n I can't love the show as I want to😆

U have written so much on ARZOO dear but the fact remains tht she has a steep learning curve ahead of her ...she needs to learn to handle situations maturely

I know the epis haven't been fantastic ESP the one yesterday but I hope things go up now

It's very unlikely of the PH to show all this ..I am quiet disappointed



Yes I hear you Ecrivain. 😭 one of the main reasons I didn't enjoy this week was exactly as you say, the problems never cease to exist. I was very happy up to the point we had the Sahir 'sorry' scene. He had found out more about Arzoo. Arzoo too was happy, finally they were understanding each other and it was beautiful. But then she asked about his past, he lost it, she lost it and ever since then their misunderstandings, issues have created a massive chasm between them. I know people are looking forward to the nok jhok but Arzoo has been so full of poison this week and Sahir is feeling so guilty I can't see anytime soon where their problems will cease.
Also it is rare to show an imperfect FL, but I will keep my fingers crossed. I think the makers are trying to change direction to draw in the masses (they do need to make money after all) but also keep the intelligent audience (that's all of us 😳 ) also happy.

But they do need to close out the Rehman track now and sort out the stupid dvd thing. That's the final sword dangling over sahir's head and it kills me thinking about what will happen if Arzoo finds out.

And I want to see Arzoo take a chill pill...constantly throwing poison at Sahir ain't going to solve any problems. Acceptance is peace!!! 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow VD what a lovely post. I have been trying to get up-to-date with two weeks worth of episodes and was getting quite overwhelmed with the changes in Arzoo and Zaki. It felt like I could not get Arzoo at all. And that was saddening cause till date I had loved her character despite some inconsistencies.
Your post has rooted her character better for me - and for that - thank you 😊
Arzoo definitely has a lot of growing up to do. She is a very kind person but someone who judges everyone with one single yardstick. So empathy (be it for Sahir or Zara or Nausheen) is not her strong point... exception being Zaki.
As she loves, gets hurt and heals and grows, she (like all of us) will become more empathetic and less rigid about her own set of rules.
Anyways thank you for this post. I loved it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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As usual an amazing post VD 😊 Your analysis of the characters is always interesting and your posts make me think and reassess the characters, which makes them a bit more bearable for me.
Since past one week I have been feeling that Arzoo is completely out of depth when it comes to Sahir. Her reactions to the situations have been of a person who is immature, impulsive and at the best childish. She can't see things beyond herself and that is her biggest flaw for me. Her reaction to the betrayal is to fall into the arms of another man, is that how people deal with pain ? it also tells me that what she felt for sahir wasn't really love but an infatuation, she had never met a man like him in her life, he was way above her league and in the initial days he does remind her that she is simply a junior designer working in a company that he owns.

She is enamoured and intrigued by his blow hot blow cold attitude and wants to know more, its a fascination like that of a child who is drawn to the fire but does not that it can burn. N when the truth hits her, she instantly starts hating him without bothering to find out the reasons behind it. Any woman would wonder about her lover's wife, but she doesn't, its enough he is married and bus, its all over. She seeks solace in her friend who starts to woo her and again she can;t see where its going. Women are usally born with sixth sense but she doesn't seem to have any.

I know we all love SAAZ and their chemistry together is superb, but looking at Arzoo's characterization I am forced to think that she may not be the right person to heal him. He needs someone consistent, someone who will love him for what he is, not what she wants him to be. Someone who will not get upset and run at the first whiff of trouble but will stand up and fight to save his soul from the demons that continue to haunt him.

Can Arzoo do all that, does she have it in her, don't think so, she isn't really in love with him yet, and her faith is eroded, she can only give him pain and nothing else. I would love to see Arzoo, change, mature and then fall in love with Sahir again and accept him with all his flaws. its a tall order and i am not very optimistic. Sorry but thats how I feel.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: VD927



Yes I hear you Ecrivain. 😭 one of the main reasons I didn't enjoy this week was exactly as you say, the problems never cease to exist. I was very happy up to the point we had the Sahir 'sorry' scene. He had found out more about Arzoo. Arzoo too was happy, finally they were understanding each other and it was beautiful. But then she asked about his past, he lost it, she lost it and ever since then their misunderstandings, issues have created a massive chasm between them. I know people are looking forward to the nok jhok but Arzoo has been so full of poison this week and Sahir is feeling so guilty I can't see anytime soon where their problems will cease.
Also it is rare to show an imperfect FL, but I will keep my fingers crossed. I think the makers are trying to change direction to draw in the masses (they do need to make money after all) but also keep the intelligent audience (that's all of us 😳 ) also happy.

But they do need to close out the Rehman track now and sort out the stupid dvd thing. That's the final sword dangling over sahir's head and it kills me thinking about what will happen if Arzoo finds out.

And I want to see Arzoo take a chill pill...constantly throwing poison at Sahir ain't going to solve any problems. Acceptance is peace!!! 😆


VD I am all for a flawed FL , Like I said yesterday was also a role reversal from their usual track of flawed ML ..but the fact tht they show ANY stupidity in the name to project their characters rightly / wrrongly tht it irritaes me like nothing else ..

Yes Rehman n zeenat track shud catch up pace now ..if not then all done over the last few weeks will go waste

It's a shame how they let Zeenat track , SaAz fake love track go out of their hands n made nothing good out of it
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Junoonian

Wow VD what a lovely post. I have been trying to get up-to-date with two weeks worth of episodes and was getting quite overwhelmed with the changes in Arzoo and Zaki. It felt like I could not get Arzoo at all. And that was saddening cause till date I had loved her character despite some inconsistencies.

Your post has rooted her character better for me - and for that - thank you 😊
Arzoo definitely has a lot of growing up to do. She is a very kind person but someone who judges everyone with one single yardstick. So empathy (be it for Sahir or Zara or Nausheen) is not her strong point... exception being Zaki.
As she loves, gets hurt and heals and grows, she (like all of us) will become more empathetic and less rigid about her own set of rules.
Anyways thank you for this post. I loved it.


Thanks Junoonian...as you put it correctly, she measures everyone by the same yardstick...she is extremely black and white and cannot see any grey at all...and empathy is what she needs to develop...she seems to have a superiority complex...and everyone else, Nausheen, Zara, Myra, Sahir cannot live up to her high high expectations and ideals...if you don't meet them, you're gone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: true2heart

As usual an amazing post VD 😊 Your analysis of the characters is always interesting and your posts make me think and reassess the characters, which makes them a bit more bearable for me.

Since past one week I have been feeling that Arzoo is completely out of depth when it comes to Sahir. Her reactions to the situations have been of a person who is immature, impulsive and at the best childish. She can't see things beyond herself and that is her biggest flaw for me. Her reaction to the betrayal is to fall into the arms of another man, is that how people deal with pain ? it also tells me that what she felt for sahir wasn't really love but an infatuation, she had never met a man like him in her life, he was way above her league and in the initial days he does remind her that she is simply a junior designer working in a company that he owns.

She is enamoured and intrigued by his blow hot blow cold attitude and wants to know more, its a fascination like that of a child who is drawn to the fire but does not that it can burn. N when the truth hits her, she instantly starts hating him without bothering to find out the reasons behind it. Any woman would wonder about her lover's wife, but she doesn't, its enough he is married and bus, its all over. She seeks solace in her friend who starts to woo her and again she can;t see where its going. Women are usally born with sixth sense but she doesn't seem to have any.

I know we all love SAAZ and their chemistry together is superb, but looking at Arzoo's characterization I am forced to think that she may not be the right person to heal him. He needs someone consistent, someone who will love him for what he is, not what she wants him to be. Someone who will not get upset and run at the first whiff of trouble but will stand up and fight to save his soul from the demons that continue to haunt him.

Can Arzoo do all that, does she have it in her, don't think so, she isn't really in love with him yet, and her faith is eroded, she can only give him pain and nothing else. I would love to see Arzoo, change, mature and then fall in love with Sahir again and accept him with all his flaws. its a tall order and i am not very optimistic. Sorry but thats how I feel.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: true2heart

As usual an amazing post VD 😊 Your analysis of the characters is always interesting and your posts make me think and reassess the characters, which makes them a bit more bearable for me.

Since past one week I have been feeling that Arzoo is completely out of depth when it comes to Sahir. Her reactions to the situations have been of a person who is immature, impulsive and at the best childish. She can't see things beyond herself and that is her biggest flaw for me. Her reaction to the betrayal is to fall into the arms of another man, is that how people deal with pain ? it also tells me that what she felt for sahir wasn't really love but an infatuation, she had never met a man like him in her life, he was way above her league and in the initial days he does remind her that she is simply a junior designer working in a company that he owns.

She is enamoured and intrigued by his blow hot blow cold attitude and wants to know more, its a fascination like that of a child who is drawn to the fire but does not that it can burn. N when the truth hits her, she instantly starts hating him without bothering to find out the reasons behind it. Any woman would wonder about her lover's wife, but she doesn't, its enough he is married and bus, its all over. She seeks solace in her friend who starts to woo her and again she can;t see where its going. Women are usally born with sixth sense but she doesn't seem to have any.

I know we all love SAAZ and their chemistry together is superb, but looking at Arzoo's characterization I am forced to think that she may not be the right person to heal him. He needs someone consistent, someone who will love him for what he is, not what she wants him to be. Someone who will not get upset and run at the first whiff of trouble but will stand up and fight to save his soul from the demons that continue to haunt him.

Can Arzoo do all that, does she have it in her, don't think so, she isn't really in love with him yet, and her faith is eroded, she can only give him pain and nothing else. I would love to see Arzoo, change, mature and then fall in love with Sahir again and accept him with all his flaws. its a tall order and i am not very optimistic. Sorry but thats how I feel.


oh absolutely...thats why i feel the most important scene of the week for me was Alvira and Arzoo. Alvira has been the mouthpiece of all our concerns. Each point she made was perfect. She raised the right concerns, 'Sahir said it and you believed it', 'Is that all the love you had for him that you already gave up?'
And i feel the makers purposely added this scene to tell us, look we know what you expected she should have done, but we want to show that she hasn't quite made it there yet.

She still needs to develop the right kind of love for Sahir...so far it has indeed been infatuation and awe...love is there, but she can't recognise/understand it yet...thats why she also said (and probably her single most sensible dialogue of the week) that even though my mind is telling me one thing...my heart is very clear and beats only for Sahir.

Sahir on the other hand...he does love her...but needs to overcome the Zeenat promise. I think he is very close to it.

@bold - totally with you on this. Its exactly what i want to see happen and i think this is what we are being hinted about. Arzoo needs to get to Alvira's expectations.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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She still needs to develop the right kind of love for Sahir...so far it has indeed been infatuation and awe...love is there, but she can't recognise/understand it yet...thats why she also said (and probably her single most sensible dialogue of the week) that even though my mind is telling me one thing...my heart is very clear and beats only for Sahir.
Yeah she does say that and yet takes all the adulation coming her way from Zaki, to the point that she accepts his proposal just to spite Sahir. Marriage isn't a game, one doesn't get married to please a friend or to get back at someone, it is a lifetime decision that cannot be taken irrationally and in haste but she does. Thats why I feel that she is not really in love with him, she was in love with an image, that has been shattered, and like a child whose favorite toy has been taken away, she is angry and spiteful. Marrying Zaki is easy, he can be controlled easily just like Zara or even her mother, he is not demanding or complex.

It would have been ideal if Arzoo would have left Niyamat house and concentrated on her career to become successful. A more worldly and mature Arzoo would have been able to handle him better, rather the naive and simple girl who is yet to grow up. I can only hope that just to spite him, she doesn't tie up with Zaki, and try and ruin Saiyara and its future, as everything happened because of the deal including her forced marriage.


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Loved your description and I hope we have some interesting scenes from here onwards

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