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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Soaps1

I loved the fact Sahir didn't try to gain her sympathy into persuading her to marry him ... he could easily tell her about his pain ... and she would melt ... he knows she loves him and he too loves her ... but despite that he told her the truth ... the entire truth as to why he wants her to marry ... earlier he was confused about his feelings and her feelings now when he knows its' nothing but love he can not deceive her any further ... so instead of telling his dukh bhari kahani or gaining her sympathy he told her the truth ... the absolute truth that why he wants to marry her ... without mincing words or pretending anything else

I agree .. He told her about his original plan though someone we know its not exactly the truth because the truth is he too loves her and cannot see her marrying someone else 😳 .. Also I feel there is a reason why he dont want to tell her about his past yet .. I remember once Alvira told KA that u promised on Sahir that u wont tell this truth to anyone , only 3 of us know it .. so there is a mystry which as it is he cannot let out to Aarzoo .. I mean even Alvira dint tell Aarzoo about Zeenat in coma when she could hv very well done that to make sure Aarzoo stops hating on Sahir ...


Arzoo disappointed me specially the bracelet thing and agreeing to marry zaki right after he offered her money that too after having given a bhashan to Sahir about money ... Arzoo i feel is impulsive and irrational ... She has every right to be angry with Sahir ... he hurt her no one can deny that ... but her reactions show she is weak and impulsive and needs to grow as a character ... i totally understand her as an immature, impulsive girl (girls are like that we all were once and then we grow) but my problem starts when people try and sell her as strong woman ... giving bhashans does not make you strong ... acting upon them, being capable of making right decisions under difficult circumstances and not being irrational makes a strong woman and I hope arzoo will travel that journey and grow ... where she would be more mature, more rational and more understanding!

She is strong in the sense that she has single handedly handled her entire family in Lucknow so far without a male figure in their family .. itso nly recently they r in Mumbai under protective shadow but before that she was handling it all .. so I think many call her strong because of this

Otherwise she is still a young girl and yes need to learn a lot when it comes to dealing with siruations ... I m sure circumstances that she is facing now will teach her slowly ..

Me too dint like her decision to sell the bracelet and also easily accept money from Zaki knowing well that Zaki dont hv income of his own , so obviously money belongs to Sayyara ala Sahir only ..


I still feel faking report is out of character for Sahir ... he was shown to be a fair person ... and i hope this report is real one and the one zaki got is fake ... there is no point ruining sahir's char to make zaki look good ... just as there was no point in making arzoo look bad with that bedroom scene and considering proposals already for the sake of zaki because he won't get any sympathy any ways because of the way he tried to show himself down arzoo's throat when she was in a vulnerable state ... some friend! ... also it is SaAz story and essence should not be lost

I agree .. in future I dont want Sahir to feel guilty for destroying Zaki's life by getting him married to Sam with a lie ... God forbid if Zaki later finds out about fake report and refuses to accept that baby of Sam (if she is preggy at all 😆 ) , then Sahir will indirectly become responsible for the whole mess ... thats why I too hope Zaki provided fake reports whereas Sahir will get real one .. though Zaki dint look much bothered yesterday when Sahir asked for another test .. he rather looked confident for the test again which says mayb his reports were not fake

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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Soaps1

Oh and i have absolutely no doubt Sahir is doing it for love ... he knows she loves him and he loves her ... and her decision to marry zaki is just to spite him and an impulsive one ... and he can't let that happen ... deal is just a factor that was there from before ... before he realized love



Exactly .. I agree ... He knows she is taking an impulsive decision when clearly she does not love Zaki .. so indirectly she is ruining her own life here .. he cant let that happen .. he knows she loves him and he loves her .. so this marriage is gonna b perfect one in future after the initial hiccups till his promise bit is done ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: blacklambo

Experience vs. Innocence, Practical vs. Emotional & Mind vs. Heart face off and somewhere in between the scales appear to have tilted. Arzoo has chosen to think more with her mind rather than feel with her heart. Sahir has started to feel with his heart but is over-powering it with what needs to be done by his mind. Somewhere in there, they are approaching the same plane but hoping their turnaround is just as spectacular. Their difference lies in how they have approached events of the past. While Arzoo suffered a setback (father's abandonment) but has learnt to let it go, Sahir still clings to his past and refuses to let it go. He has a thing or two to learn from her.

U wrote this so well .. thats why SaAz r similar on many levels .. both hv their past baggages .. both r struggling between mind and heart .. both hv common enemy and thats Money .. I think post marriage they will reach a common ground and might finally start sharing their emotions with each other ...

I wonder why Sahir cannot let go his past like Aarzoo .. mayb its something to do with Zeenat going in coma without their last confrontation , something that was not the case with Aarzoo since she already confronted her father and cleared it out with him that they hv no relation now , something Sahir could not do it and so waiting for Zeenat to come out of coma to end the chapter forever 🤔



Sahir's suffocation & split second fear when he heard Arzoo's yes to Zakki's proposal was a sight. As usual, the businessman surfaced but not before giving us a brief glimpse of poet and a lover. The symbolism of Arzoo wearing Sahir's bracelet in one hand and holding Zaki's money in the other while hugging hopefully was made in tandem with the events.

true .. his actions said it all .. he felt suffocated seeing her in another man's arms .. Businessman came to the rescue but Aarzoo already saw the reaction of lover before that 😉 ..


Somehow, I didn't get the feel that Arzoo wanted to sell the bracelet. Her mother pulled out her jewelry to sell & Arzoo's thoughts went to her jewelry. She merely wondered if it was real or fake just like Sahir's prem game. Arzoo would have been at the jewelers later rather than stand in the living room of NH wondering where she was going to get the money from.

hmmm u hv a point .. mayb she was just wondering if thats fake too ... but somehow it gave a feel that if she knew its real , they might hv gone to sell it 😕


Zaki won some brownie points again for offering to take back his marriage proposal if Arzoo felt any kind of pressure and couldn't take money from him coz of it. Dare I hope that Zaki is rushing things just so that Sahir can stake his claim. Now, that would a great twist down the road but what are the chances of it happening?

That will b good if Zaki plans to secretly unite SaAZ and so all the marriage rant suddenly in last few days .. mayb he realised they both love each other and so deserve to b together .. but again isn't he risking his own life here because he knows well that if SaAz get married then by default all will force him to marry Sam too 😕


Sahir poured his heart out to Asharfi. Good that he is starting to vent rather than keep it all bottled up inside of him. Deliverance from his desolation is not too far...😉...Cracks in the walls that he has erected are starting to get bigger & wider. How long before it all comes crumbling down? I hope it happens sooner and Sahir's first step is to somehow prevent Zaki from marrying Samaira under Arzoo's influence. Samaira & Rehman have outlived their presence in the show with same ol' same ol' rant. So, out with the old and in with the new...😛 (Note to myself, be careful what u wish for 😆)

I too loved that he started pouring his heart out instead of going in that self-mutilation mode by hurting himself ... at least venting out will give him some peace ... he has bottled up lots of pain inside .. need to release it now ... mayb post marriage he will find solace in Aarzoo 😳 ..

I too hope Sahir post his marriage with Aarzoo , stops Zaki-Sam marriage and mayb by doing that he can put his first step towards redemption 🤔


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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: ecrivain



Jyo clash of the titans it is 😆
And nice post with beautiful colllages

So my theory on SaAz wedding comes true 😃?..I just knew it was inevitable but yes the melodrama was getting a bit too much , however wht fun is love without any probs 😆

Anywwy sahir n his breakdown was so poignant n Just n I have said it before n will say it AGN .lhe is WAY better than zaki ..ANY DAY

ARZOO needs to grow up a LIL , I think there is a lot of immaturity in her n hopefully life will teach her to see things from others POV ..as of now she is tainted by past n misjudged peoples n hnece she misjudged sahir 's gift too
Btw all said n done her idea to sell it off was blah 😡

Sam was too OTT ...I think Alvira will be ine happy bunny post SaAz Nikaah 😆



I think post marriage SaAz will overcome each other's flaws with their togetherness .. Sahir will learn to listen to his heart over mind and be the artist once again and Aarzoo will learn to b more mature and think from other's POV too ... thats the journey of HS all about .. two people who r opposites and not so perfect coming together to make a perfect life 😳


Sam need to stop her crying now .. it looks too fake and repitative now 😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: WittyKitty

Oh the Ashrafi monologue was touching,but tears I did not shed.

I think Sahr deserves everything that is coming to him. Time and again,he had the choice to forgo his vachan, but he refuses to take it. So he well deserves to be alone.

But we dunno the reason why he cant let go the promise .. there must b some reason behind it because clearly he does not love his wife .. so then whats stopping him from let go off the promise .. is it just ego ? I dont think so .. something is being hidden here and unless we get to know that , I cannot really judge if he deserves to b alone or not 🤔

Ok,so Zeenat taunted you and made you feel small. But it is he who has chosen to NOT ignore it now that someone far better has come into his life. A girl who doesn't care if he is just a poet and not a ruthless businessman.

But we dunno if thats the only issue or there is somrthing more to it because clearly they hv not given us the entire Zeenat story here ..

She is right in saying,your wife left you bcos of your nature. Then he was a laid back person,today he is a cruel, "give everything up for a darn promise" person. And somewhere in the future,maybe even Aarzoo will leave him on the same premise.

I think u r being too harsh on Sahir here without knowing the full past story of his .. what if Zeenat betrayed him with another man who is wealthy ? /// thats a big blow for any man and not easy to forgive and forget ...

He had the choice post the DNA test proving that Samaira is a bed hopper, to NOT go ahead. HE made the choice that is gonna ruin 2 other lives. Itna jealousy,that too to his own brother?? Aarzoo's life bcos he thinks he has right over her?

I agree that he is wrong with the whole Zaki matter . he has no right to ruin Zaki's life by forcing Sam on him but I dont think he is wrong in marrying Aarzo ohere because clearly they love each other whereas Aarzoo never loved Zaki but said yes to him for marriage only to make Sahir jealous which was wrong on her part too ..

And to further blackmail her on her family,is a choice he is making.

I m sure thats a fake threat he will give ..


To me,Zaki loves her truly. All he cares about is her happiness and isn't that what love means?? Sahir just wants to own and possess .

I still find Zaki's love more of a teenage love .. I m not saying Sahir's love is matured one , that only time will tell .. But I m not really convinced with Zaki's love either ...

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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: farzy2910

Thanks for sharing your insights Jyoti and thanks to Swetha for the amazing collages 😊

I also felt yesterday was a much better episode then the day before. I loved the Sahir - Ashrafi scene as well as the Sahir- Arzoo scenes. It's good to see 2 challenging people fight a battle...especially when it involves love



So true .. two friendly people together is always boring ,. two people at loggerhands coming together and then falling in love is more interesting to watch too .. I know real world is diff but in fiction world such stories r always fun to watch 😉 .. cant wait for the real SaAz battle post marriage now 😎
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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Jyoti:

Lovely posts, as always!👏
I too agree with you ... the three high points of the episode for me were:
1. Sahir talks with Ashrafi where he bares his soul! Awesome dialogues and this was a good way of showing his self-talks.

So true ... such self talks r needed for us to know whether he truely loves Aarzoo or not and how her tears always affects him 😳
2. Arzoo opening the knot on her dupatta and saying she hopes to hate Sahir forever! It was a sad moment to see Sahir's face crestfallen but still I thought the scene was very well directed and there was not one bit of overacting by both actors!

True .. it was a sad moment for both .. Aarzoo though loves Sahir but is forced to hate him and Sahir though loves Aarzoo but is forced to give her the feel that he never loved her .. very sad scenario for both lovers and both nailed it 👏👏
3. Arzoo's sister stumping everyone by saying she will not share the money she has earned via Anam's help with her own family! My God, that girl was hard-hearted! Again,was a negative scene but powerfully directed!

true .. it was quite powerpacked and it opens door for a parallel track too which should b interesting 👍🏼
This Samaira's father is doing these small dhamis like telling the press to call Sahir and he wants to start escalating his blackmail, no doubt. But I am waiting for the shaadi fiasco. ny idea on which date this shaadi fiasco is to happen? Are we going to see it soon or will they stretch out the waiting till the shaadi?

I think it will happen today itself and then continuation on Monday ... in Muslim weddings they do hv sangeet , haldi etc etc na .. so direct reach to qubool hai 😃

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Edited by blacklambo - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59
Hi All,

I am new to this post but old fan of Harshad Chopra aka HC

The way Jyoti and Swetha together writing this wonderful analysis of SAAZ, I could not help but become part of this forum. :-)


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks Jyoti and Swetha for this great post

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