Sushpective: Are you gonna stay with the one who loves you or are you.

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Here I am breaking my one day hiatus to not make a post...
No collages...because I told Shwetzee I won't be making a post for a week perhaps not for good...

But after watching today's episode I wanted to say this...

What does a girl like Arzoo do when she is actually told the truth...
The truth that the company, the house everything he has will go under ...
If she doesn't marry him...
Will she make the biggest compromise of her life?
Will she become the very thing she despises...a second wife?
To bail him out...
Because she feels like she owes it to the family?

Does it matter that her heart still has only one name despite the inconvenient truth?
Despite the hurt?
Despite the option to be with someone who is so much in love with her...who is honest about her feelings?
Who is not married...who she understands?



What will she do?
To me the answer is not difficult...
Because we human beings are irrational...
We are predictably irrational...
Even when something makes sense...we do things that we can't make sense of...
Just because...we are who we are...
Because we don't calculate...use logic...make a sheet with pluses and minuses ...
We don't weigh pros and cons...
We just do...at least some of us do...





Here is a song choice for today...



I know you need a friend, someone you can talk to
Who will understand what you're going through
When it comes to love, there's no easy answer
Only you can say what you're gonna do

I heard you on the phone, you took his number
Said you weren't alone, but you'd call him soon
Isn't he the guy, the guy who left you cryin'?
Isn't he the one who made you blue?

When you remember those nights in his arms
You know you gotta make up your mind


Are you gonna stay with the one who loves you
Or are you goin' back to the one you love?
Someone's gonna cry when they know they've lost you
Someone's gonna thank the stars above

What you gonna say when he comes over?
There's no easy way to see this through
All the broken dreams, all the disappointment
Oh girl, what you gonna do?

Your heart keeps sayin' it's just not fair
But still you gotta make up your mind

Are you gonna stay with the one who loves you
Or are you goin' back to the one you love?
Someone's gonna cry when they know they've lost you
Someone's gonna thank the stars above



Read more: Glenn Frey - The One You Love Lyrics | MetroLyrics


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfY60rvE0Q[/YOUTUBE]


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Must say something about Zaki...
I am totally loving Zakis character...
Everything he has done so far makes perfect sense to me...

He is honest...he hasn't misrepresented any thing...
He is impulsive...he doesn't calculate...wait for the right moment to say something...he says what is in his heart...
He is upfront...he tells Alvira and Sahir exactly what he feels, what he has done or is going to do...
He is not delusional...he knows exactly what he has to offer and where he falls short...
He doesn't badmouth his brother...in front of Arzoo...even before making his marriage proposal...the first thing out of his mouth is. Sahir Bhai is a good person...he must have his reasons...





I know the majority of the board probably does not share my read on Zakis character...but I really like him...and I think Sehban is doing an AMAZING job bringing Zaki to life!!,
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About Alvira
What a small detail it is...that Sahir is married and you deliberately FORGOT to tell her...
What a small detail that Sahir told her NOW...and you didn't before...


Minor one...right?
Doesn't matter...

The important thing is that Saahir and Arzoo love each other...
And that is all there is...



I wish I can say you are delusional...
But you are a mother to a son...who has been drowning in his own misery for years...
I wish I could pretend that mothers are logical human beings ...who will put honesty and integrity before their desperate desire to help their son...I wish...



Anyone wanting to appreciate how deep a mothers love towards their sons can be...should just talk to their own MIL...😆
Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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And about Nausheen

Nausheen Khala...Hmmm nice!
If there is one thing that compensates for every shortcoming that Nausheen has...
That is her trust in Arzoo...
Her faith...


I am glad she will know the situation as much as Arzoo does...
And neither will make a blind decision...



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Sush check your PM plz 😃
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Ok so will go by character and not particularly order of episode.
I know many like Zaki but he is starting to annoy me a bit. I believed he genuinely cares for Aarzoo and all but I am starting to question what's his deal? I mean if not calculative I say he is very inconsiderate to say the least. You called him impulsive, well impulsive wud be blurting out his so called love to Aarzoo before and not once whole thing has been done. Also at one point he is putting all these big words to Aarzoo abt understanding her, supporting her blah blah; well how abt give her some time and space. Let her process what has happened. Sorry but Aarzoo appears emotionally compromised right now so putting proposal and going around everywhere seems very inconsiderate if not calculative ! This all goodey goodey act with Nausheen and acting holier than thou is too much for me to swallow. Sometimes honesty is biggest trickery !! Saying to Sahir and Alvira no one believed me with Sam issue; well dude look at your track record. If it was my brother I too would not believe him 😳 Saying to Sahir he ruined life seems bit OTT. Zaki himself has played enough games with gals so come on. Yes he has been honest with Aarzoo but then she had seen him with gal to start with so he didn't get chance to hide. I guess that is why he likes Aarzoo, she knows it from start but then dude that's why she is your such a good friend !! Right now him and Sam have same credibility for me 😆

Alvira, I am still not too sure abt her motives. What exactly does she want I mean? Does she want to see Sahir happy hence push Aarzoo towards her or she has something else brewing in her mind. I am not able to see so called motherly love just yet !

Aarzoo, liked her very much today. But the gal needs some time and space for the love of god. It has only been 1 day and she has gone through enough trauma and stress. She has whole lot to figure out and here again ppl start pushing her Liked how she gave kangan back to Alvira. Her convo with Zaki, she went for a friend but dude is singing his own issues 😡 Hear her out, be her friend like you used to dude !! Her convo with Sahir was sure best thing. Her not giving in Sahir's words abt believing him and caring abt him were nice. Now she can lie to Sahir she doesn't care what he does. Sahir kept lying he doesn't care, good she gave it back to him 😛

Sahir, well well - no matter what still most interesting character for me ! This is how I see things - He was willing to let her go when he said get out. But then Aarzoo got in trouble and that has made him lose his mind and cool. His fear of getting hurt by love is losing to his fear something may happen to Aarzoo/fear of losing Aarzoo. What do I say, make battle more intense 😆 His desperation that Aarzoo should her him out and at least give clean chit on last accusation; so he is ready to take punishment from her but still want her acknowledgment on matter he had no fault. What did you say dude you don't care abt her - sure try telling urself that.
His convo with Rehman, it seems Rehman is sure pushing his luck. It appeared Sahir was ready to snap at Rehman but handled it. So if deal doesn't happen, Sahir is going to blast and anyone who had been pushing him will burn 😆

The scene I hated was of course box cutter crap. Now many ppl may not like this but due to that scene self-mutilation portrayal for lack of better word lost value ! Until now self-mutilation was shown as Sahir's self imposed punishment and way his emotional pain manifested. But today they showed it as some cheap trick ! No please show things properly !!

Now whole marriage thing, well in real life I would ask Aarzoo to walk out of this mess and say give me space. I would ask her to reflect back at what took place and figure out what does life has for her. But then this is daily soap so forget that !

A line for Saaz, I heard in show The Following - why is love so punishing !!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Love is not a choice. If only are heart could measure out the pros and cons of relationship before falling in love. Unfortunately, love just happens and it is beyond justification and explanation. Once we have fallen, we learn to accept each other for better or for worse. This applies to BOTH Arzoo and Saahir. But since as hard as I try I can connect most with Arzoo let me share my thoughts on her.

It was not like Arzoo did not understand that Saahir was different from the beginning. He was not like the others. That was what intrigued her and kept pulling her closer to him. Though he warned her many times. She knew that he is not the easiest companion. That they were many complications involved in this complex man. What exactly they were no one was ready to explain to her not Alvira, nor Zaki and neither Saahir himself? And what she found out she had never expected.

The man has had a past and it's not just any kind of a past, he has been married for ten years. This idealistic, confident somewhat naive women was not in for this type of a shock. Within this experience she has learned many things. Things are not always what they seem. Life is not simple and uncomplicated. Love is not a beautiful fantasy. It involves equal pain.

She does not want to be the second women. She detests the idea of a second women. The second women has destroyed her life. This was her second time learning that men were capable of betrayal. She was betrayed by her father. She saw her mother being betrayed for the greed of a male heir. She was betrayed for the greed of money.

Arzoo has tough road ahead of her. She can love without choice but being in a relationship is always a choice. Will she be able to see through the emotional manipulation and aggression? What lies beneath all these things? Is it a heart in desperate need of love? Is it an uncompleted soul waiting to be completed?

Even with complete understanding of the other person heart breaks take ages to overcome. Betrayal takes ages to heal. It can take a lifetime to completely be able to trust again. Furthermore all the expectations are from her in this relationship? To heal his pain, to deal with his manipulation and to see through his complexity. Her pain of betrayal that he has given marginalized. Her humiliation of her emotions being toyed with ignored. (In real life like Lesson mentioned many women would probably rather vanish to a different planet. It is why many are routing for Arzoo to leaven Niyammat house immediately. But this is completely Arzoo's call.)

Alvira dear, where do I start? Despite being able to provide no guidance to her son how to handle difficult situations in a constructive manner she can only see things through his eyes only. Probably why she never told Arzoo her son was a married man? Arzoo would have back down a long time ago and none of this would have happened.

Her conversation to Arzoo today basically went like this, I thought you were going to be my miracle worker but you weren't. I thought you would easily accomplish in a few months what I failed to accomplish in the time span of a seven years but you gave up at the first obstacle. This was no easy obstacle and no it was not the first obstacle Alvira. Arzoo went through many ups and downs in her relationship with Saahir beforehand and it was no easy ride.

I agree she might have had expectations from Arzoo and might be disappointed. But she could at least have started off with "I can understand your pain" or "You have gone through a lot and I know its very difficult." She made Arzoo feel that backing down like this was because of her own failure in being able to keep Saahir happy and incapacity to see through his complexities. I was disappointed in Arzoo for not having the last word here either and returning the kangan quietly. This was always her flaw she easily fall into Alvira's manipulations and get herself insulted by Saahir time and time again. Until she got herself insulted and betrayed in the worst possible manner. Still Alvira expects more from her miracle worker.

Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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And finally ...
I rejoiced at Arzoo's reaction to Sahirs threat for self cutting!
Way to go sister...👏


Put a stop to that NONSENSE!!

Yeah...yeah...may be not realistic...but what is realistic in these soaps anyway ...I ask...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


And finally ...
I rejoiced at Arzoo's reaction to Sahirs threat for self cutting!
Way to go sister...👏


Put a stop to that NONSENSE!!

Yeah...yeah...may be not realistic...but what is realistic in these soaps anyway ...I ask...



I second this!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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And how am I gonna wake up for my early morning meeting tomorrow?

Sush ...the impulsive one...should have listened to her brain and slept on time...

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