JA 27 Nov 2014 | Farzand Falls Foul of the Emperor - Page 3

Originally posted by: jiya.k

@ radhika: dnt knw about Jodha n jalal's gut feeling radhika bt my gut feeling tell me that this track is atifa part2 with twist in the tell...this time we all see nt only teda jalal but tedi jodha also n this promo is part of their plan...

Originally posted by: akdhaswara

[BR][DIV]can be possible[:)][/DIV]

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

I was thinking that even if all the evidence pointed against Salima, there is such a thing as gut feeling. I agree Jalal is bound by his position and has to go by evidence. But on a personal level, don't Jodha and Jalal have a gut feeling that Salima can't do it?

In the past, when all the evidence was against Jodha, many times, Jalal and Salima had the gut feeling that Jodha can't do it.

What happened to this gut feeling for Salima?

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Here lies your answer.. Trying to give a WU. Watch today's episode.. I mentioned yesterday in your old thread that just like Jodha went to Man Singh she went to Salima EARLIER also.

Today there were NOT 1 but i think 2 instances where she said BOTH Salima and Man Singh are innocent. Also, Jalal acknowledged "once" that he wants to investigate this conspiracy.{?}.

Also do not worry about any kind of TE. 😆
Any smart Emperor will try to TALK several times from many angles and investigate.
Here nothing of the sort happens. Here reverse happens > put them in nazarband Kaid and DO NOTHING.!!!!. The writers have seriously lost their senses.!

There is no Atifa track repeat. Atifa track's TE was a nonsensical blunder. Turned into a BOND for 5 minutes aur ho gaya TE in the end with NO EXPLANATIONS for several acts. It was a disaster.🤓.

Jalal clearly told Jodha that there are evidences against Man Singh, and there was a complete "atmosphere" of a MU between J and J.

Both should have been shown working together, but writers se kya expect karein.!

She said she was NOT trying to violate him. It was a clash of rights of both of them. One as a Shahenshah and other as MUZ. She tried to meet Man Singh. And Akbar tried to curb this right of hers.!!.
{
I don't know who was right and who was wrong. The situation was wrong..😆
There was zabardasti ka scene being created. I was expecting Jalal to enter this investigation himself. Instead we got the opposite way. Thanks to CV's.🤢
}

Hence, She refused to use her "powers" of MUZ, as they were nominal.

Remember, when Jodha was Nazarband last year, that time Akbar also came to meet her and even Mariam Makani too came to meet her.!!.

At least the CV's showed us something about Mariam Makani and Mariam-Uz-Zamani's stand in the kingdom. We had some dialogues today.!!!

Sidenote :
Ruqs was poisoning Salim's mind against Jodha. I tried my best to ignore this scene for my own sanity. Salim's relation with his mother was really nice and cordial, though here it is indigestible to watch it like this.

BTW,
Have you read the story of Munshi PremChand Sahab, one of my favorite writers who wrote on the prevailing social conditions of Indian masses. He has written a story where he talks about Algu Chaudhari and Zumman Sheikh.

It mentions the way in which these 2 BESTEST friends become enemies after a MU. Read it once, and think about Jodha Jalal Salima Man Singh. :)

What Salima Begum is capable of doing , that can not be done by Jalal and Jodha & vice versa.
We all have qualities which we can NOT expect to be completely replicated by the others. :)

What i wanted.?

1. Jalal has put Man Singh in Kaid but he should have gone there to talk to him. Nothing has been shown to us on screen about any such meeting..!!. How are they planning to catch the culprit without even talking to the accused.?. Be it medieval or modern, systems of investigations DO HAVE this basic protocol of talking to the accused.! But, our CV's love "FLASHBACKS" shown in 5-7 minutes and end the track, as if everything was running as smoothly as butter.!
You know what, more than any one, i am disappointed with the writers in the manner they have showed Jalal. He is NOT doing anything as of now, and even opposing what she is doing. !!!!

2. It is completely ridiculous to see the Emperor and Empress clash over this issue.

3. What Jodha did , it should have been done by Jalal before her. 😕 He should have met Salima and Man before her. Par nahi, yahan par to ulta ho raha hai. They are showing him getting angry for this.!!! He should have done this already.!!

END:
In the end if it is shown that he DID everything apne aap "behind the scenes" then Jodha was right about what she said today, and CV's have failed this time.

During Atifa track they have already showed that Jalal did not share anything with Jodha as she was the one who was under attack. Hence, he was "shielding" her.!!

But here, it is the HEIR who is being used as a shield by an insider and NOW EVEN she is holding an Imperial Position like HIM. The HEIR is as much belonging to her, as much he belongs to Jalal. He should include her in his plan if there is any, because the people under attack are the ones who are related to HER also.!!!!

Hence i am saying the TE avatar of this track {if any} will further butcher Jalal.
It's pathetic to see him like this.
How i wish, the CV's could have shown something better.!!!.

Look from any angle,
If HE is Emperor, she is Empress now. If HE is a father, she is a mother now. This kingdom as much belongs to her as it belongs to HIM. Their roles are very closely knit together and NOW showing him work ALONE will be another blow to the image of these legends.

I repeat what she is doing is RIGHT, and this is what i expected Jalal should have done before her.!! And by opposing it, i don't know what kind of investigation is going on.!.
Yeh to wahi baat hai, na khud kaam karo na kisi aur ko karne do..😉


PS : Don't use much logic..

PPS : CV's can not show us the leads doing their work normally. They love plots and plots and more plans. One can not expect a constant dose of positivity. So watch the part which was better and ignore the rest.!

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Here lies your answer.. Trying to give a WU. Watch today's episode.. I mentioned yesterday in your old thread that just like Jodha went to Man Singh she went to Salima EARLIER also.

Today there were NOT 1 but i think 2 instances where she said BOTH Salima and Man Singh are innocent. Also, Jalal acknowledged "once" that he wants to investigate this conspiracy.{?}.

Also do not worry about any kind of TE. 😆
Any smart Emperor will try to TALK several times from many angles and investigate.
Here nothing of the sort happens. Here reverse happens > put them in nazarband Kaid and DO NOTHING.!!!!. The writers have seriously lost their senses.!

There is no Atifa track repeat. Atifa track's TE was a nonsensical blunder. Turned into a BOND for 5 minutes aur ho gaya TE in the end with NO EXPLANATIONS for several acts. It was a disaster.🤓.

Jalal clearly told Jodha that there are evidences against Man Singh, and there was a complete "atmosphere" of a MU between J and J.

Both should have been shown working together, but writers se kya expect karein.!

She said she was NOT trying to violate him. It was a clash of rights of both of them. One as a Shahenshah and other as MUZ. She tried to meet Man Singh. And Akbar tried to curb this right of hers.!!.
{
I don't know who was right and who was wrong. The situation was wrong..😆
There was zabardasti ka scene being created. I was expecting Jalal to enter this investigation himself. Instead we got the opposite way. Thanks to CV's.🤢
}

Hence, She refused to use her "powers" of MUZ, as they were nominal.

Remember, when Jodha was Nazarband last year, that time Akbar also came to meet her and even Mariam Makani too came to meet her.!!.

At least the CV's showed us something about Mariam Makani and Mariam-Uz-Zamani's stand in the kingdom. We had some dialogues today.!!!

Sidenote :
Ruqs was poisoning Salim's mind against Jodha. I tried my best to ignore this scene for my own sanity. Salim's relation with his mother was really nice and cordial, though here it is indigestible to watch it like this.

BTW,
Have you read the story of Munshi PremChand Sahab, one of my favorite writers who wrote on the prevailing social conditions of Indian masses. He has written a story where he talks about Algu Chaudhari and Zumman Sheikh.

It mentions the way in which these 2 BESTEST friends become enemies after a MU. Read it once, and think about Jodha Jalal Salima Man Singh. :)

What Salima Begum is capable of doing , that can not be done by Jalal and Jodha & vice versa.
We all have qualities which we can NOT expect to be completely replicated by the others. :)

What i wanted.?

1. Jalal has put Man Singh in Kaid but he should have gone there to talk to him. Nothing has been shown to us on screen about any such meeting..!!. How are they planning to catch the culprit without even talking to the accused.?. Be it medieval or modern, systems of investigations DO HAVE this basic protocol of talking to the accused.! But, our CV's love "FLASHBACKS" shown in 5-7 minutes and end the track, as if everything was running as smoothly as butter.!
You know what, more than any one, i am disappointed with the writers in the manner they have showed Jalal. He is NOT doing anything as of now, and even opposing what she is doing. !!!!

2. It is completely ridiculous to see the Emperor and Empress clash over this issue.

3. What Jodha did , it should have been done by Jalal before her. 😕 He should have met Salima and Man before her. Par nahi, yahan par to ulta ho raha hai. They are showing him getting angry for this.!!! He should have done this already.!!

END:
In the end if it is shown that he DID everything apne aap "behind the scenes" then Jodha was right about what she said today, and CV's have failed this time.

During Atifa track they have already showed that Jalal did not share anything with Jodha as she was the one who was under attack. Hence, he was "shielding" her.!!

But here, it is the HEIR who is being used as a shield by an insider and NOW EVEN she is holding an Imperial Position like HIM. The HEIR is as much belonging to her, as much he belongs to Jalal. He should include her in his plan if there is any, because the people under attack are the ones who are related to HER also.!!!!

Hence i am saying the TE avatar of this track {if any} will further butcher Jalal.
It's pathetic to see him like this.
How i wish, the CV's could have shown something better.!!!.

Look from any angle,
If HE is Emperor, she is Empress now. If HE is a father, she is a mother now. This kingdom as much belongs to her as it belongs to HIM. Their roles are very closely knit together and NOW showing him work ALONE will be another blow to the image of these legends.

I repeat what she is doing is RIGHT, and this is what i expected Jalal should have done before her.!! And by opposing it, i don't know what kind of investigation is going on.!.
Yeh to wahi baat hai, na khud kaam karo na kisi aur ko karne do..😉


PS : Don't use much logic..

PPS : CV's can not show us the leads doing their work normally. They love plots and plots and more plans. One can not expect a constant dose of positivity. So watch the part which was better and ignore the rest.!