Mughals badnaam hue Jodha tere liye

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sorry for that subject line but I could not think of another tag line
If you have watched this story from starting that is the main crux of the story
Whatever Akbar did whether ban child marriage, withdraw jaziya, forgive a ghadaar sharifuddin everything is credit to our Jodha
Maham was vicious attempted to murder Akbar many times, killd his unborn babies many times but when was she caught and barred by Akbar - when she dared target Jodha in Sujamal track
Ruqaiah initially was a target of Maham so much that Akbar called her DEK to give answers and humiliated her butt slowly she who disliked Maham so much as to speak against her to Akbar and risk his warth and anger became her companion in crime and after Mahma death became Maham part2
Bakshi Bano whom we never read much about in any history book who was hardly known till movie Jodha Akbar came along - again became a scheming sister in law against Jodha and got a mouth ful from Akbar
Akbar himself many times looked dumb to make Jodha look great. She was his tutor, guide, philosopher, mentor without her Akbar would be nothing but a gawaar jallad(not my words my neighbour said so)
Because Jodha told Akbar
- Forgave Bakshi
-Forgave Maham
- Forgave Sharifuddin
- Forgave Nigar aapa
etc etc
Now poor Salima is also not left who went to great lengths to bring peace bet Salim and Akbar in history. She shall also be slandered and wrongly accused to make ruq look great
Now that Akbar quota of making Jodha look great is exhausted next target is Salim
Salim who saved traitors from gallow left a bleeding child whiom he hit by mistake, lied in court etc why to prove Akbar a great just emperor and Jodha an abala maaa
Salim who loved his mom so much to call her God or khuda will now hate this same mom and go further down in eyes of viewers so that Jodha looks like dukiyari ma who lost her sanskari beta
Salim is shown getting nasha by ruqaiah to again in future make Jodha not responsible for his addictions under her upbringing because in india its considered if kids go wrong its parents mistake in upbringing what do you call sanskaar.
In future again when Salim goes against Akbar for anarkali and nur jahan and one is killed and another married off to another man to avoid Salim marrying commoners again I am sure both girls will be shown as non sanskari girls to justify Akbar actions and if Jodha support him
I am wondering when a track will be shown where people just show real life incidents without making some one a scape goat or a fool that too emperors like Akbar and Salim who handled huge empire under them and commanded many battles alone in war and won them too. If they can handle a huge army and lead it to victory cannot they handle the empire on their own or understand what games family and friends are playing around.
Instead of making Jodha look mahaan and Ruqaiah look invincible in fooling everyone around in every track especially Akbar and Salim cannot they show believable tracks?
Cannot Jodha do mistakes in life? Cannot Ruqaiah games be understood by Akbar and Salim and cannot she be caught once?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Please stop pleading jodha name, it is only because of this we r getting dumb jodha character. Otherwise MUZ was very intelligent in her life, she forgives people easily that doesn't mean she was fool. In real MUZ and MM all had powers, RB because of her thinking and deeds, she wasn't got any power, not even haram. Haram was handled by MM and SM.

Hindy harem was handled by MUZ, MUZ was the only lady who sits with akbar in DEK, that's why on new year she got jewel from every one, she even started trading with outside countries. She used to sang with tansen in harem. She also takes care of haj department as akbar was very fond of food made by her. MUZ was his real wife.

That is the reason RB asked Salim third son. But let me tell you one thing, Salim was not in favour of giving his third child to ruks. When salim became king, he ordered kurram to send to his mother. He says now it is neccessary that khurram should be close to his real mother. This was his first order, when he became king.

Salim loves his mother MUZ then anybody else, he places her in place of god. After MUZ death, salim started over-drinking. That time Nur jahah takes full oppotunity to rule. That years were called the final years of jahagirs kingship.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sweet24

Please stop pleading jodha name, it is only because of this we r getting dumb jodha character. Otherwise MUZ was very intelligent in her life, she forgives people easily that doesn't mean she was fool. In real MUZ and MM all had powers, RB because of her thinking and deeds, she wasn't got any power, not even haram. Haram was handled by MM and SM.

Hindy harem was handled by MUZ, MUZ was the only lady who sits with akbar in DEK, that's why on new year she got jewel from every one, she even started trading with outside countries. She used to sang with tansen in harem. She also takes care of haj department as akbar was very fond of food made by her. MUZ was his real wife.

That is the reason RB asked Salim third son. But let me tell you one thing, Salim was not in favour of giving his third child to ruks. When salim became king, he ordered kurram to send to his mother. He says now it is neccessary that khurram should be close to his real mother. This was his first order, when he became king.

Salim loves his mother MUZ then anybody else, he places her in place of god. After MUZ death, salim started over-drinking. That time Nur jahah takes full oppotunity to rule. That years were called the final years of jahagirs kingship.

I am talking of serial not history

No Salim did not order anything like that. Mughal princes would stay with mother till 13 years and move to men zenana later. So Khurram only moved to men zenana not to his mother Jodha Bai. But yes Khurram was shattered at his mom death Jodha and built her a tomb in agra that was sold by british and the new occupants demolished it. I think that although he was given to Ruq he met him mom Jodha often and loved her very much. Any child that is given to others for upbringing always long to know about real parents and love them more although they are not together.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ur post title is apt for Ek's JA. Nice Post . Every track of Ja is somewhere connects Jo's Mahanta.
I equally loved sweety's post. See how Ek changed the whole concept of Muz. Nice to read about Muz.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem



Salim is shown getting nasha by ruqaiah to again in future make Jodha not responsible for his addictions under her upbringing because in india its considered if kids go wrong its parents mistake in upbringing what do you call sanskaar.




I did not get the above part^^^^.
Does this means Salim was a SAINT who never did anything wrong, who never did wrong.?. Was his company right.?.
If he starts to drink, this means, Jodha made him drink.?.
Weren't the harem ladies the ones who pampered himto GREAT depths.?.


The title of this post says something else..And the content is something else..

I don't want to bring any clan in between, but let me tell, Mughals are presented quite nicely here.Don't want to elaborate here.

I want to say it is Ruqayya who is getting the VIP treatment.
The best title can be Jodha and Akbar BOTH made DUMB for Ruqayya..

Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Although I agree about the extreme goody goody (to the extent of being foolish) depiction of jodha...Mughals have hardly been "badnaamed" by the show

Maham; AK, Sharif have been shown evil for their own thirst for power...nothing to do with Jo.

Salima, hb , Aadgah BB have been shown in very positive light...

And Akbar has been more than positive for most parts...

Ruk... Now they really needn't have shown the opium thing...they could have kept her grey...but ruk turning evil is Ni fir Jo ... Its for explaining why Salim rebelled against his father...


Sanskaars come upbringing and family not just from mother...I would have agree with salims bad sanskaars coming at the cost of jo-if they would have shown ak ar pampering and condoning Salim while Jo is acting strict...but yahan toh Akbar is also very strict with him and Jo is shown to be a weak mom - toh how come bad sanskaars of Salim for the sake of Mahan Jo ?

And Salim rebelling is a fact ... But to save him from "badnaami" of being a power hungry bigda Hua shehzaada who was all about his rights and none about his duties he is being shown to be the wrong as a result of a misunderstanding.

So i would say jodha or no jodha...the shown has saved Mughals from a lot of badnaami.

Lets not confuse being shown dumb with being shown in a bad light. The show unfortunately displays saas bahu drama only...and Akbar seems to be running a parchoon Ki dukaan rather than a sultanate. And if we lament about Akbar's political aspects not being shown...then tell me where have they shown political agenda - not for Rajputs or maansingh in particular...they show only harem drama, which leaves no scope for anything else - why blame Jo ...in last 2-3 months Jo hardly has had any dialogues except perhaps fir 10 minutes in jaziya episodes. So how can ine blame showing badnaam Mughals fir sake of strong jodha - I mean strong jodha is a bug joke...all she ever dies is make rangoli, do pooja or apply leps...now tell me how jodhas character is to be blamed for idiotic portrayal of everyone else!

Regarding Salim- there were a 1000 diff ways if showing a grey Salim without compromising on the his relationship with his parents - kids can be rebellious and can waver every without having bad sanskaar and hatinv their parents...just that CVs don't have the brains to show that.

If you had said Jalal dumb Hua jodha tere liye - I would have agreed...but Mughals are hardly badnaamed in the show
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek




I did not get the above part^^^^.
Does this means Salim was a SAINT who never did anything wrong, who never did wrong.?. Was his company right.?.
If he starts to drink, this means, Jodha made her drink.?.
Weren't the harem ladies the ones who pampered himto GREAT depths.?.


The title of this post says something else..And the content is something else..

I don't want to bring any clan in between, but let me tell, Mughals are presented quite nicely here.Don't want to elaborate here.

I want to say it is Ruqayya who is getting the VIP treatment.
The best title can be Jodha and Akbar BOTH made DUMB for Ruqayya..



no abhay😆... its jodha .. jodha ,,,, jodha is the main reason of akbar's foolishness 😲, rukaiya's evil acts😡 and salim's drug addiction, ,,,, ,,,,

👏 🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice one chitterati.😆
What parchoon ki dukaan 😕


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: katana

Nice one chitterati.😆

What parchoon ki dukaan 😕



My grandfather used to say this - I think it means a grocery store
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati

Although I agree about the extreme goody goody (to the extent of being foolish) depiction of jodha...Mughals have hardly been "badnaamed" by the show

Maham; AK, Sharif have been shown evil for their own thirst for power...nothing to do with Jo.

Salima, hb , Aadgah BB have been shown in very positive light...

And Akbar has been more than positive for most parts...

Ruk... Now they really needn't have shown the opium thing...they could have kept her grey...but ruk turning evil is Ni fir Jo ... Its for explaining why Salim rebelled against his father...


Sanskaars come upbringing and family not just from mother...I would have agree with salims bad sanskaars coming at the cost of jo-if they would have shown ak ar pampering and condoning Salim while Jo is acting strict...but yahan toh Akbar is also very strict with him and Jo is shown to be a weak mom - toh how come bad sanskaars of Salim for the sake of Mahan Jo ?

And Salim rebelling is a fact ... But to save him from "badnaami" of being a power hungry bigda Hua shehzaada who was all about his rights and none about his duties he is being shown to be the wrong as a result of a misunderstanding.

So i would say jodha or no jodha...the shown has saved Mughals from a lot of badnaami.

Lets not confuse being shown dumb with being shown in a bad light. The show unfortunately displays saas bahu drama only...and Akbar seems to be running a parchoon Ki dukaan rather than a sultanate. And if we lament about Akbar's political aspects not being shown...then tell me where have they shown political agenda - not for Rajputs or maansingh in particular...they show only harem drama, which leaves no scope for anything else - why blame Jo ...in last 2-3 months Jo hardly has had any dialogues except perhaps fir 10 minutes in jaziya episodes. So how can ine blame showing badnaam Mughals fir sake of strong jodha - I mean strong jodha is a bug joke...all she ever dies is make rangoli, do pooja or apply leps...now tell me how jodhas character is to be blamed for idiotic portrayal of everyone else!

Regarding Salim- there were a 1000 diff ways if showing a grey Salim without compromising on the his relationship with his parents - kids can be rebellious and can waver every without having bad sanskaar and hatinv their parents...just that CVs don't have the brains to show that.

If you had said Jalal dumb Hua jodha tere liye - I would have agreed...but Mughals are hardly badnaamed in the show

Well said Charu.

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