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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: BharatVeerPutra



Akbar's turn to tolerance had VERY LITTLE to do with his wives or Harka bai from the solid evidence(
contemporary chronicles)we have.
The real reason Akbar sought discourses on other religions was something else, recorded by his contemporaries but hidden by our secularists eager to cover up the truth his Hindu wives have nothing to do with religious liberalism if we go by contemporary chronicles.
In fact we have solid evidence from his contemporaries that over time he had for all practical purposes start doubting his own scholars teached practices , this happened later in his life. In his early life he was much of a jihadist fanatic as any other Muslim occupier of India.

The wars he waged against the only resistant Hindu kingdoms - Mewar and Gondwana - had all the characteristics of classic jihad ...Fatahnama-i-Chittor issued by him after the conquest of Chittor at Ajmer, the notorious fathnAmA-i-chittor which seculars find so hard to ever quote in verbatim, is prepered with Quranic verses, compares the battle of Chittor with jihads led by Prophet
1579 Akbar boasted that he was a great conqueror of Islam to the ruler of Turan, Abdullah Khan, in a letter
Akbar's reign was chronicled extensively by his court historian Abul Fazal in the books Akbarnama and Ain-i-akbari. Fazal gave a positive spin to Akbar's reign by glossing over uncomfortable facts of the emperor's reign related to his interaction with other communities of his empire, which has been repeated by numerous historians over the years. Other contemporary sources of Akbar's reign like the works of Badayuni, Shaikhzada Rashidi and Shaikh Ahmed Sirhindi were written outside of court influence and hence contain more authentic information and less flattery for Akbar.

Akbar becoming tolerant king and accepting diversity of religions had really nothing to do with any of his wives. His teachers in his initial years were liberal minded and had taught him to be tolerant of other religions. But in order to encourage his army to conquer large parts of indian continent they gave the name of these wars as jihad on khafirs(non believers). It was the orthodox Maham anga and Bairam Khan who encouraged his thinking at a early age. And Akbar followed this practice till almost age of 35.
His allowing his hindu wives to practice their religion was a great political ploy to win over the hard to defeat rajpuths into his fold. Initially every rajputhana king was scared to ally with Akbar or marry his daughter to Akbar. But after they saw he gave his wife religious freedom inside the palace that is when they started making alliance with him. Chittor massacre was another reason rajpuths surrendered any siege or war easily later on. This was his political master stroke and many books and articles state the same.
For that matter Akbar married Christian, Buddist and jain wives and all were given freedom to follow their religions withing confines of palace. But for all official purpose his wives were muslims and had muslim names and titles given to them. That is because to marry as per islam, the girl has to convert to islam else marriage is invalid. So inside the fort they would practice their hindu cultures and religion. If you talk of jaziya it was removed in 1560s brought back 1570s and then repealed in 1590s. So it was more of a economical tool. But regarding religion Akbar was a rationalist in later life and could see through the religious leaders and just tolerated their presence in court. That he why he wanted to create a different religion.
Akbar becoming tolerant and started implementing rules and social reforms in his 30s majorly after birth of his son Salim. Akbar becoming a benevolent king and accepting all religions was a maturing process which started around his 30s. Akbar was a shrewd administrator cum political strategist and brilliant warrior no doubts about it. Because before/after him none of his heirs could actually match his brilliance in empire building through alliances and rules to promote majority. That shows his far sightedness as a brilliant political strategist.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: geeta58

History-geek, At least a week's episode shud hv been devoted fr the devastating war that took place fr 4 months😲.And I sincierly feel an intro of great warriors frm Rajput side shud hv been there😳.We came to know only of Jaimaal. There were other leaders like Patta taken part in this war. I don't know who all lost their lives.😕The serial is abt Akbar doesnot mean u shud not throw light on the other side 😡.After all it's history. We need to know what really happened n when



Originally posted by: geeta58

Most certainly he will kill both of them 😭.But history -geek, do u mean to say Akbar was only leading huge army, n not fighting himself? If the gates were intact then how did the Mughal army enter the fort? Akbarnama may not be telling the whole truth.😕 We should search in the books of Rajput history also fr the true picture.



Geeta,

I don't visit many threads. Just saw this, hence replying. You can have a look here. > Link
Ekta has not shown the details. It's better we don't keep expectations from her. ;p

@Pia Answered you on blog already. Please check there. :)

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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Abhay I am Ritu.Came to JA forum for the first time today and your history threads got my attention especially your blog.It is very well written and explained with proper sources. Lots of question was going around my mind about Akbar-MUZ relationship, their kids ,Raputana history etc and it was quite resolved with your blog you made.just keep on carrying your good work Abhay ... Just wanted to thank you , didnt know where to post so posted here.
And if possible plz post something about MP and his struggle, battle of Haldighati when you have time on your blog.I do not want to trust wikipedia for this.
Bye nd tc.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hello Abhay and all the other History buffs:
Can anyone please tell me where Salima Sultan is buried. I know it is in Agra but does anyone know where?. Also we know that Akbar's daughters were buried next to him and Murad at Humayun's tomb. But what about Daniyal. Anyone know where he is buried.
Thanks
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Posted: 11 years ago
tfs dear...plz post it on twitter to manish...
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Posted: 11 years ago
A thouroughly Researched Manuscript of 1800's ,
Edited by a team of scholars under the Asiatic Society of Bengal.
Printed/Copyrighted under the patronage of THEN Govt. of India.
The completely researched material can be read in the library of Asiatic Society of Bengal.
this pic is also from there.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

tfs dear...plz post it on twitter to manish...


i did ela,but they r so shameless that they will still research and reference the multiple jehangirnama's bcoz its easier to do that rather than work hard to dig a little deeper for factual info.
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Posted: 11 years ago
tfs! i think most important is who was salim's mother..the rest who cares but m happy at least 9 gems are correct!
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Posted: 11 years ago
anchal post this pic to manishpal

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