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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Rashmi

Don't watch the epi is my suggestion. It was TERRIBLE!

No one needs to invite Shaguni Bai - she comes and goes as she pleases. Though must say I am impressed she made it from Amer to Agra to bless Salim and was soon back in Amer.

She made quite a few predictions about Salim and Anarkali too. Salim will think with his heart and his love story will be written in blood. He will have 2 women in his life - one will break his heart, the other will mend it.

Jalal and Salim will fight because of Salim's dil. Jodha will be caught in a dilemma between them.

Anarkali will shake up Mughal sultanat and change the course of history. She will take her family to palace.

Rashmi, it was pathetic. Jalal names the baby Nadira in the DEK. Baby Salim kisses baby Anarkali / Nadira. Yuck! And oh there was a scene when Salim had almost died but then sprang back to life just because Anarkali was born.

😲😲😲 Baby kissing pics indicate extreme depravity of thought🤢- destroying innocence. 😭
More than Anarkali😆😆😆, Ekta has definitely shaken, stirred and concocted Mughal history into a stale puree. 🤢 tasteless and stinking.
What😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 Salim comes back to life? he was about to die?😕 sprang back because of Anarkali birth? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Extreme heights of idiocy!!! This makes me firmly believe "Stupid is As Stupid does"!! ( Forrest Gump)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


Excellent write-up @ realitybites 👏 👏.

Your second last sentence about the complete bankruptcy of ideas coupled with incompetent writers sums up the current pathetic state of a once awesome serial, it also indicates the sad future of the portrayal of Salim and Anarkali.



Charu.

Thanks Charu, I have read some of your posts, very thoughtful and insightful.
Yes despite having plethora of information on Akbar- Jodha and others, still the writers find difficulty?Confused🤓 They are limited to shaadi & Bache and saazish?
Yes sad but true, its indicative that this trio cycle will be repeated with SA.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hello,
If anyone has any problem or disagreement with whatever they have read on the PM, kindly tell me about it personally. I don't like the fact that my friends are getting blamed for no fault of theirs. It just shows how some of us do not know how to go about expressing their view point calmly and get angry instead.

Thank you!
Edited by justlovetv - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Hello Folks,😊

READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Well, the episode today was by-far better than the last few. I, for one, was smiling through most of it mainly because of all those kids around. Though there is still one thing that really irked me.
The episode starts with Salim cleaning the bird's wound when Murad came there with Haider. This did go the same way as the Siddhartha-Devdutt
story, one of my favourite childhood stories, I mentioned yesterday with Salim claiming that the bird was his as he had saved it and Murad claiming it to be his as he was the one who had hunted it and he was backed by Javeda's son here. I want to say that the kid playing Murad talks like Gabbar. When he said ye pakshi hame de do bhaijaan, he reminded me of Gabbar's famous dialogue ye haath mujhe dede thakur. 😆

Moving on to the practice area where Jalal and Rahim are practicing sword fighting. This was a well shot scene.Ok, it was funny as well as cute to hear Jalal call Rahim beta. It seemed weird hearing this from him as the guy looked older than him.😛All the kids come to Jalal and ask him to solve their problem. He listens to them and says that since Salim saved the bird it was his as maarne waale se bachane wala bada hota hai. If Murad had killed it, then it would have been his. Jodha comes there and says that as all of them were brothers so they shouldn't fight among themselves. It is Late Shehenshah Humayun's birthday so all the kids go to tidy themselves and get ready for tula-daan. Jodha stops him and chides him for rolling around in the mud and dirtying his clothes. What really struck me here was Jodha's partiality towards Salim. Wasn't Murad her son too?Ok he was being brought up by Salima but still he was her son. But she only noticed that Salim needed a bath. To me, both JJ came across as biased parents. It was as if only Salim mattered to them and no other child of theirs. (Only Murad is here for now.) As a proof of their biasedness, we see Murad is really pissed with his father for always siding with his elder brother and preferring him over Murad himself. It is making him feel ignored. Salima pacifies him and explains to him that it's not so and Jalal had taken the right decision as Murad was wrong in this case. Besides Salim is his elder brother and the crown prince as well so he should respect him. Not only Murad but Haider is also considerably mad at Jalal for his decision. He gets a resounding slap from his mother for insulting Jalal . He glares at her a la Adham. Mini- Adham he is.😛 I wonder how he turned out so considering Javeda is so kind and soft-spoken. 😕He sees Jalal as the culprit. As the one responsible for not having his father and grandma with him.

Jodha takes Salim for his bath. He says that he had it in the morning then what is the need for him to go for it again but she takes him nonetheless. He sits there having his bath and asks his moher as to why she scolded him when he was right. She advises him to be patient with his little brother and not raise his hand on him. Jodha is getting ready for tula-daan rasam when Jalal comes there and applies a kala tikka behind her ear to ward off any buri nazar.😉 (Not to worry Mr. Shehenshah as your BIL is not here now). He says that he was proud of the wayhis Sheiku Baba had saved the bird and that he thought from his dil. They have a cute banter about who had Salim taken after with Jodha saying that how come if he does something good he is his son and if he is being naughty, he is Jodha's son. Jalal says he looks like him and Jodha counters him saying he may look like you but his swabhaav is like mine. Jodha gives him 3 reasons to prove that Salim had indeed taken after her. One, he gave more importance to his dil. Two, she had also saved a bird like this back in Amer. And third, she had saved the deer Ruk had wanted to hunt. Jalal then agrees and says HAMARA Sheiku Baba AAP par gye hai. (Btw, Jalal and Jodha had new dresses. )

Ruk comes there with a dress and jewellery she specially got made for Salim. But Salim insisits on wearing the one given to him by his own mother as it is his favourite. Ruk is seen smirking again like an idiot. Her love and concern was so fake. She says ye shehzaade hai. Jo dil chaahe wo karne ki azaadi hai inhe. Allah inhe buri nazar se bachaaye.🤢

We see HB praying for her late husband's sukoon and SB comes there. She inquires about her grandson who comes running to her and hugs her. He sees tears in his grandma's eyes and asks her if anyone had done gustaakhi with her and if that is so he himself will punish that person. HB says that when he is there with her, how can anyone hurt her? Salim says he will always be with her and care for her and understands that she is missing his dadajaan that's why she is upset. He very innocently and cutely says that when he grows up, he will marry her. This makes everyone laugh. When HB says that it's not possible as daadi-pote can't get married, he again asks that why his father can marry his ammijaan but he cannot marry his father's ammijaan? And then says to Jodha that you only said that wives cook for their husbands and make laddoos for them and as dadijaan does all that so why can't he marry his daadijaan? (Already thinking of getting married hmm, Sheiku Baba?😉) HB says she may not be alive by the time he reaches a marriageable age and Salim says he will never let her go. ( I so missed my dadi during this scene. She has put up with all my odd demands and stupid questions when I was a kid)😊

Then comes tula-daan. Murad and Haider are glaring at Salim when he is being weighed. Murad expresses his wish to be weighed as well when Salima pacifies him saying it's not his turn now.

MS suddenly has a moustache. It was so evident that it is a fake. He looked really funny.😆 Anyway, Jalal sends Salim with MS and Rahim to distribute zakkat. Salim is out there doing just that when he hears music. He starts following it. He reaches that place and goes inside leaving Rahim outside. I didn't like what followed. Some girls are dancing and Anarkali is one of them. Rahim stands there smiling and pleasantly surprised at what he is seeing. For a moment I thought he looked besotted if that's even possible for a child to look like that. It remains to be seen if it's a start of friendship or childhood romance. 😕(I love this boy's toothy grin btw 😃)

Precap- Salim wants to go out of the palace to return Anarkali's ghunghroos. We see Murad and Haider asking him where he wants to go and it seems they are planning to take advantage of this and get back at him for the bird saving event. JJ are worried as Salim isn't there in the palace. Looks like he has managed to sneak out.
Sorry for the long post guys. I just went on and on.
Edited by Neetz - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz

Hello Folks,😊

READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Well, the episode today was by-far better than the last few. I, for one, was smiling through most of it mainly because of all those kids around. Though there is still one thing that really irked me.
The episode starts with Salim cleaning the bird's wound when Murad came there with Haider. This did go the same way as the Siddhartha-Devdutt story, one of my favourite childhood stories, I mentioned yesterday with Salim claiming that the bird was his as he had saved it and Murad claiming it to be his as he was the one who had hunted it and he was backed by Javeda's son here. I want to say that the kid playing Murad talks like Gabbar. When he said ye pakshi hame de do bhaijaan, he reminded me of Gabbar's famous dialogue ye haath mujhe dede thakur. 😆

Shifting to the practice area where Jalal and Rahim are practicing sword fighting. This was a well shot scene.Ok, it was funny as well as cute to hear Jalal call Rahim beta. It seemed weird hearing this from him.😛All the kids come to Jalal and ask him to solve their problem. He says that since Salim saved the bird it was his as maarne waale se bachane wala bada hota hai. If Murad had killed it, then it would have been his. Jodha comes there and says that as all of them were brothers so they shouldn't fight among themselves. It is Late Shehenshah Humayun's birthday so all the kids go to tidy themselves and get ready for tula-daan. Jodha stops him and chides him for rolling around in the mud and dirtying his clothes. What really struck me here was Jodha's partiality towards Salim. Wasn't Murad her son too. Ok he was being brought up by Salima but still he was her son. But she only noticed that Salim needed a bath. To me, both JJ came across as biased parents. It was as if only Salim mattered to them and no other child of theirs. (Only Murad is here for now.) As a proof of their biasedness, we see Murad really pissed with his father for always siding with his elder brother and preferring him over Murad himself. It is making him feel ignored. Salima pacifies him and explains to him that it's not so and Jalal had taken the right decision as Murad was wrong in this case. Besides Salim is his elder brother and the crown prince as well so he should respect him. Not only Murad but Javeda's son is also considerably mad at Jalal for his decision. He gets a resounding slap from his mother for insulting Jalal . He glares at her a la Adham. Mini- Adham he is. I wonder how he turned out so considering Javeda is so polite and soft-spoken. He sees Jalal as the culprit. As the one responsible for not having his father and grandma with him.

Jodha takes Salim for his bath. He says that he had it in the morning then what is the need for him to go for it again but she takes him nonetheless. He sits there having his bath and asks his moher as to why she scolded him when he was right. She advises him to be patient with his little brother and not raise his hand on him. Jodha is getting ready for tula-daan rasam when Jalal comes there and applies a kala tikka behind her ear to ward off any buri nazar.😉 (Not to worry Mr. Shehenshah as your BIL is not here now). He says that he was proud of the wayhis Sheiku Baba had saved the bird and that he thought from his dil. They have a cute banter about who had Salim taken after with Jodha saying that how come if he does something good he is his son and if he is being naughty, he is Jodha's son. Jalal says he looks like him and Jodha counters him saying he may look like you but his swabhaav is like mine. Jodha gives him 3 reasons to prove that Salim had indeed taken after her. One, he gave more importance to his dil. Two, she had also saved a bird like this back in Amer. And third, she had saved the deer Ruk had wanted to hunt. Jalal then agrees and says HAMARA Sheiku Baba AAP par gye hai. (Btw, Jalal and Jodha had new dresses. )

Ruk comes there with a dress and jewellery she specially got made for Salim. But Salim insisits on wearing the one given to him by his own mother as it is his favourite. Ruk is seen smirking again like an idiot. Her love and concern was so fake. She says ye shehzaade hai. Jo dil chaahe wo karne ki azaadi hai inhe. Allah inhe buri nazar se bachaaye.🤢

We see HB praying for her late husband's sukoon and SB comes there. She inquires about her grandson who comes running to her and hugs her. He sees tears in his grandma's eyes and asks her if anyone had done gustaakhi with her and if that is so he himself will punish that person. HB says that when he is there with her, how can anyone hurt her? Salim says he will always be with her and care for her and understands that she is missing his dadajaan that's why she is upset. He very innocently and cutely says that when he grows up, he will marry her. This makes everyone laugh. When HB says that it's not possible as daadi-pote can't get married, he again asks that why his father can marry his ammijaan but he cannot marry his father's ammijaan? And then says to Jodha that you only said that wives cook for their husbands and make laddoos for them and as dadijaan does all that so why can't he marry his daadijaan? (Already thinking of getting married hmm, Sheiku Baba?😉) HB says she may not be alive by the time he reaches a marriageable age and Salim says he will never let her go. ( I so missed my dadi during this scene. She has put up with all my odd demands and stupid questions when I was a kid)😊

Then comes tula-daan. Murad and Haider are glaring at Salim when he is being weighed. Murad expresses his wish to be weighed as well when Salima pacifies him saying it's not his turn now.

MS suddenly has a moustache. It was so evident that it is a fake. He looked really funny.😆 Anyway, Jalal sends Salim with MS and Rahim to distribute zakkat. Salim is out there doing just that when he hears music. He starts following it. He reaches that place and goes inside leaving Rahim outside. I didn't like what followed. Some girls are dancing and Anarkali is one of them. Rahim stands there smiling and pleasantly surprised at what he is seeing. For a moment I thought he looked besotted if that's even possible for a child to look like that. It remains to be seen if it's a start of friendship or childhood romance. 😕(I love this boy's toothy grin btw 😃)

Sorry for the long post guys. I just went on and on.

It was a cute epi, barring the last OTT scene. The kid playing Salim is cute😳
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: realitybites

Thanks Charu, I have read some of your posts, very thoughtful and insightful.

Yes despite having plethora of information on Akbar- Jodha and others, still the writers find difficulty?😕🤓 They are limited to shaadi & Bache and saazish?
Yes sad but true, its indicative that this trio cycle will be repeated with SA.


Thank you for appreciating my write-ups.

Yes, I completely agree with you.The Creatives are incapable of showing history infused with drama, in a believable manner. Todar Mal played an important role as Akbar's revenue minister. In the show, the Creatives reduced him to an emissary who always conveyed Akbar's messages to various rulers.Birbal was introduced with great fanfare and has now suddenly disappeared. So has Tansen whose personality and talents were reduced to a joke.Maan Singh was also one of the 'Navratnas' in Akbar's court who was held in high esteem by the shehenshah, and so far we have never seen any importance being given to him.Lesser said about the depiction of the Chittor war, the better.

At present, the Creatives are showing the various personalities of the royal kids to the viewers, this I believe is a change in strategy to appease the disappointed viewers and keep their interest and curiosity in the story line alive. It is just a matter of time before they focus their attention back on Rukaiyya and her evil attempts at ruining the relationship between Jodha and Salim.

Instead of taking this leap, there are numerous interesting positive aspects of Jodha and Akbar's lives that EK could have focussed upon.Instead not only did she disfigure historical facts to her own advantage, she also insulted and totally disrespected the precious royal characters of Jodha,Akbar and several others, by giving them an unrealistic soap drama-like feel to their personalities.I'm sure that the real Jodha and Akbar are rolling in their graves.

I have no high hopes about the story line of the future Salim and Anarkali. It depends upon the actors who are cast in the lead roles and their popularity to make the show a success.We have to wait and watch to see if they can repeat the magic of Paridhi and Rajat.



Charu.
Edited by JAfanCharu - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Sammy, yeah the kid playing Salim's role is very cute. His smile is so adorable with only 3 teeth visible. So is Murad. 😊
Who were the other 2 kids waise? Both golus..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz

Sammy, yeah the kid playing Salim's role is very cute. His smile is so adorable with only 3 teeth visible. So is Murad. 😊

Who were the other 2 kids waise? Both golus..

I presume one was Daniyal and the other one was Javeda's kid😳
But loved those kids today😳
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: justlovetv

I presume one was Daniyal and the other one was Javeda's kid😳
But loved those kids today😳

Haider is Javeda's son.The new Villian.
One might be zeenat's son and other might be that wet nurse of Salim that shamshad begum's son.
Daniyel was younger than Murad.I think they will show he is in amer,
Edited by Rashmi81 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Haider is Javeda's son.The new Villian.
One might be zeenat's son and other might be that wet nurse of Salim that shamshad begum's son.
Daniyel was younger than Murad.I think they will show he is in amer,

Ooo Haider will take revenge😲
Ooo😳 But I loved those kids😳

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