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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2

Hi Radhika,

GM. Hope u had a wonderful Diwali. Missed ur posts and glad that you made it...


Hi Priya

Yes, I had a wonderful Diwali and got baby Salim as a gift that day from Ekta 😆 Missed you too and hoping you had a great Diwali 😃


Loved ur post and the title. You have said it all and these questions are precisely the reason y I have stopped watching. Leaving aside chittoor which was intolerable jalal's behavior towards jo cut the magic, Jo's apology dent it further and finally ruq going once again free made me give up.

Just reading wu but enjoyed everyone's post here and the hilarious takes..

Thanks, Priya! There are many like you who have given up the show and are just reading WUs and discussing with friends...It's all for the best...😊


Sorry for deviating, but wished to share the episode I watched yesterday the dek scene before shivani's wedding . I have watched Benazir track only in bits and pieces so was pleasantly surprised to see this episode and in this present climate it looked even more beautiful.

It started with the reunion of sukany and jo after sukanyas wedding. It's always a pleasure to watch them both together and jo longingly told how she was missing those days and her and feel at times so lonely here. I guess jo though have salima , their relation has always been more on respectful terms and she should have really missed those banters with sukanya. Though we grew up we always seem to miss the innocence of childhood isn't it?

Priya, thanks for sharing lovely memories from a beautiful episode. 😊 Sukanya was always my fave and I enjoyed Jodha's relationship with her. Really miss her.


There was another cute scene of dadisa gifting all the Mughal begums and hb gifting jo with Mughal dress. The scene of the day was jo walking into dek in Mughal dress with that amazing bgm . and it was made more cute when Rahim joined the dancers . Jalal was so captivated with jo's smile that only an eyelock from jo made him remember he was in dek and that too in gringha mode . He so tried but failed to avoid seeing her.

I remember...Jalal was so captivated .. he couldn't look away...😳

There was a reminiscence of sukanya's wedding too when jalal finds jo's nose ring loose and automatically tried to correct her .. But couldn't leave it there so called jo in the night for his famous jibe now, "Though you look beautiful in this ,Benazir would have looked better ,but it seems jo has grown wiser to his antics and hence replied .. I don't care anymore and would be happy to give it if you please and would be even better if you ask hb to do so..".. But Could our shehenshah leave it there ...You always seems to say onething and do another and hence I wonder what should be going on your mind whenever you insult me.A classic way of jalal's asking Do you have any feelings for me.. and poor jo has to duck the question and state she is leaving,But she stands there for a moment caught in a dilemma of wanting to spend some more time with him or leave the place before betraying herself.

Jalal notices this with smile and says her "Ah you have proved me right jodha begum by standing there and not leaving",now jo leaves and jalal stops her by giving back her fallen ankle and give it back to her with that special handhold ... How would he ever miss an opportunity like that ...

Priya, I had made a post on his fetish for collecting Jodha's payals in those days 😆 It used to be so sweet... those lovely days are gone, leaving behind just their fragrance...😕 Even when they couldn't seemingly stand each other, there was so much love and tension in the air...Now they apparently love each other but you have to remind yourself of this fact from time to time because there is hardly any love even in their cutesy-pie, lovey-dovey, flirting or intimate scenes.

The episode also had maham,ruq and Benazir but it was not jarring at all and the overall tone of the episode was so positive that I was left wondering what has gone amiss between then and now...

The only thing I could see was back then though there were many villains the focus of the show was always on ja their pain,happiness etc.. as it should have been ..Sadly in the race for TRP's the overall focus has been changed and villains are glorified and left us in a disheartened state of once adored drama.

The shenshah who submitted himself before kalmia, the son in law who showed unconditional love and respect by gifting ratanpur to sukanya , the husband who fought for justice and honour of his wife punishing his own sister , the lover who took care his spouse as a precious doll and the father who stood bearing all the pain of a son's(hasan) death yet supporting his wife and giving her a reason to live all seems to be the distant memories of the past .The jo who was so dignified, full of self-respect who even showed that if needed she can live a life on her own rather living on mercy of someone also seems to be lost.

@bold: This loss is so unbearable...it's almost like a physical pain...it cuts us as if we lost two dear friends to the vagaries of the script and they have now been replaced by impostors who are not even fit to be the shadows of the originals.


What we have now seems to be the fabrication of cvs and I could no longer connect them to ja I used to adore and only left with questions ...

v true...

Priya,


Thank you so much for such a beautiful post and for reminding us that JA used to be truly magical and bewitching once upon a time...


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz


Priya, we can only hope.. Rahim was the only one who brought in positivity and joy. I even liked when they showed him playing with the ball and finding the finger glove. he is adorable.
Baby romance was pukeworthy. it started right from the womb yr with Salim poking Zilbahar's tummy then after her birth keeping his hand on her head, forehead kissing and smiling too. CVs are mad. At this age kids are innocent and they don't go around falling in love. Shaguni's dialogue on seeing the taveez ki rishta jud gya hai..dil se dil mil gaye something and khoon jaise rang hoga mohobbat ka and all was OTT. CVs forgot they are dealing with babies here. Where is the innocence and naivety of kids in all this? I can digest to an extent if they show him playing with Ms. Pomegranate. I will tolerate that.
No sign of fatehpur sikri. they are in Agra only. 😕


No FS, no Lahore... Akbar will live and die in Agra only, as per Ekta...

No wars...Ekta must be rattled by the brickbats she got for Chittor. Soshe is now steering clear of wars and "leap"ing over them.

Btw, MS and Aziz Koka must be older by a dozen years by now...What about their marriages? 😲
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0



No FS, no Lahore... Akbar will live and die in Agra only, as per Ekta...

No wars...Ekta must be rattled by the brickbats she got for Chittor. Soshe is now steering clear of wars and "leap"ing over them.

Btw, MS and Aziz Koka must be older by a dozen years by now...What about their marriages?😲


Right Di. He will live and die in Agra madhouse.
Yeah. Ekta won't be showing any war now. She's jumping like a kangaroo over them. Aisa hi tha toh she shouldn't have shown Chittor as well.
Hahaha.. poor MS and Aziz Koka.. Here, Akbar has got so many wives and they haven't got even one. Aziz Koka's wedding is pending since Eid. That princess with whom Jalal had fixed his wedding-kya hua uska?😲
One day we will suddenly get to see their wives without much hullabaloo..
Edited by Neetz - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
😆😆😆 So the show has taken 15 years leap? Just like that!!😛😆😆
By this hypersonic speed, it may end by Nov or early Dec.
Sadly the JA show which was once captivating has now turned into a lack lustre and drab.
While there were glaring follies in the tracks but still they managed to hold the viewers interest. But the fake pregnancy track of Ruq, Kyber track and Atifa track were not only incredulous but horrifying to show on part of the writers. How can they show the Mughal empire like this? So casual like its a flea market or a free for all zone?
If this was not enough the horrifying and ugly death of the babies, followed by the
most repulsive and horrendous thing shown of Jalal blaming Jodha for spending the night with him and the death of Hussain.🤢🤢🤢 Who on earth can come up with such repulsive and obnoxious thoughts? The so called writers in Ekta team are all young women, its unfortunate and painful that they think like this.
The writers butchered all the characters-Jalal, Jodha, Ruq, HB, Todarmal, Birbal. Perhaps Salima has been spared.
By this account no wonder Ekta may show Jodha dying before Jalal so that she is sada suhaagan types😆😆😆
Is it fair to use licence of creative liberty to show the story in such banal and fable banner?
The story line Ekta and her team has followed is simply limited to Shaadi-Bache-Saazish.🤢 She is recycling it again and again. None of tracks in JA has gone outside this realm. Saazish will always be limited to jealousy or position.😕
Its nothing but complete bankruptcy of ideas and competency of the writers🤢.
Hope in future there are better QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT WRITERS who handle such subjects.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: realitybites

😆😆😆 So the show has taken 15 years leap? Just like that!!😛😆😆

By this hypersonic speed, it may end by Nov or early Dec.
Sadly the JA show which was once captivating has now turned into a lack lustre and drab.
While there were glaring follies in the tracks but still they managed to hold the viewers interest. But the fake pregnancy track of Ruq, Kyber track and Atifa track were not only incredulous but horrifying to show on part of the writers. How can they show the Mughal empire like this? So casual like its a flea market or a free for all zone?
If this was not enough the horrifying and ugly death of the babies, followed by the most repulsive and horrendous thing shown of Jalal blaming Jodha for spending the night with him and the death of Hussain.🤢🤢🤢 Who on earth can come up with such repulsive and obnoxious thoughts? The so called writers in Ekta team are all young women, its unfortunate and painful that they think like this.
The writers butchered all the characters-Jalal, Jodha, Ruq, HB, Todarmal, Birbal. Perhaps Salima has been spared.
By this account no wonder Ekta may show Jodha dying before Jalal so that she is sada suhaagan types😆😆😆
Is it fair to use licence of creative liberty to show the story in such banal and fable banner?
The story line Ekta and her team has followed is simply limited to Shaadi-Bache-Saazish.🤢 She is recycling it again and again. None of tracks in JA has gone outside this realm. Saazish will always be limited to jealousy or position.😕
Its nothing but complete bankruptcy of ideas and competency of the writers🤢.
Hope in future there are better QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT WRITERS who handle such subjects.

A Great post .👏
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: realitybites

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">😆😆😆So the show has taken 15 years leap? Just like that!!😛😆😆

By this hypersonic speed, it may end by Nov or early Dec.


Sadly the JA show which was oncecaptivating has now turned into a lack lustre and drab.


While there were glaring follies in the tracks but still they managed to hold theviewers interest. But the fake pregnancy track of Ruq, Kyber track and Atifa track werenotonly incredulous but horrifying to show on part of the writers. How can they show the Mughal empire like this? So casual like its aflea market or a free for all zone?


If this was not enough the horrifying andugly death of the babies, followed bythe </font><font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">most repulsive and horrendous thing shown ofJalal blaming Jodha for spending the night with him and the death of Hussain.🤢🤢🤢Who on earth can come up with such repulsive and obnoxious thoughts? The so called writers in Ekta team are allyoung women, its unfortunate and painful that they think like this.</font>

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<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia">The writers butchered all the characters-Jalal, Jodha, Ruq, HB, Todarmal, Birbal. Perhaps Salima has been spared.</font>



<font color="#660000" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">By this account no wonder Ekta may show Jodha dying before Jalal so that she is sada suhaagan types😆😆😆</font>


<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia">Is it fair to use licence of creative liberty to show the story in such banal andfable banner?</font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">The story line Ekta and her team has followed is simplylimited to Shaadi-Bache-Saazish.🤢 She is recycling it again and again. None of tracks in JA has gone outside this realm. Saazish will always be limited to jealousy or position.😕</font>

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<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Its nothing but complete bankruptcy of ideas and competency of the writers🤢. </font>


<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hope in future there are better QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT WRITERS who handle such subjects.</font>

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where were u though I know show is disguistinh to even talk about still I miss your views yaar

hope u remember me btw

ekta wont end it soon I so wish she does bit no she will not JA is getting money for her which none of her shows doing

I am not watching this show since Thursday but forum is and addiction sply freinds here

awesome post
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: realitybites

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">😆😆😆So the show has taken 15 years leap? Just like that!!😛😆😆

By this hypersonic speed, it may end by Nov or early Dec.


Sadly the JA show which was oncecaptivating has now turned into a lack lustre and drab.


While there were glaring follies in the tracks but still they managed to hold theviewers interest. But the fake pregnancy track of Ruq, Kyber track and Atifa track werenotonly incredulous but horrifying to show on part of the writers. How can they show the Mughal empire like this? So casual like its aflea market or a free for all zone?


If this was not enough the horrifying andugly death of the babies, followed bythe </font><font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">most repulsive and horrendous thing shown ofJalal blaming Jodha for spending the night with him and the death of Hussain.🤢🤢🤢Who on earth can come up with such repulsive and obnoxious thoughts? The so called writers in Ekta team are allyoung women, its unfortunate and painful that they think like this.</font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia">The writers butchered all the characters-Jalal, Jodha, Ruq, HB, Todarmal, Birbal. Perhaps Salima has been spared.</font>



<font color="#660000" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">By this account no wonder Ekta may show Jodha dying before Jalal so that she is sada suhaagan types😆😆😆</font>


<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia">Is it fair to use licence of creative liberty to show the story in such banal andfable banner?</font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">The story line Ekta and her team has followed is simplylimited to Shaadi-Bache-Saazish.🤢 She is recycling it again and again. None of tracks in JA has gone outside this realm. Saazish will always be limited to jealousy or position.😕</font>

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<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>

<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Its nothing but complete bankruptcy of ideas and competency of the writers🤢. </font>


<font color="#660000" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hope in future there are better QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT WRITERS who handle such subjects.</font>

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Hey lavanya aftr long time 😳 last time I saw ur post was during JJ amer seperation track... Aftr that u r gayab 😕 SA made u to cme back 😉 well nothing is left in JA its all over wonderful post 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi akka and all. Very appropriate title.

Finally got over with my test and came here and I dont know what to say. Just two day and the show is upside down. Leap after leap. Lost track ready how many years have past by. My resolute to not watch got broken and watched first few minutes and rest fast forwarded. Reading comments are far more better than watching even reading WU.

Kathal and Kataharikai.( love and brinjal) They killed love story and giving rotten katari now. People are worried on issues like teen pregnancy and here they are glorifying infant romance. Since I dont know the fictional story of anarkali, what happen in the end? I guess it is a tragic. Then how can they justify this before birth connection all. And salim ka dil starting to bit when anarkali is born 😲. Kissing forehead. Showing innocent kids like this. JA show is showing what all should not happen.
Even I'm writhing about SA not JJ😕.

Coming to JJ, since the writer have memory loss so we to have to erase certain memories to actually understand what is happening. All was well till hussains dead. Ruks blaming Jo is acceptable. Ja being angry at Jo and blaming her can be swallowed but how can that happen for 3 years. Now that 3 years leap is before or after chittor war? Both ways it is not logic. If before, how to be single minded and not thinking and harbor anger for years, only jalal can do that. If after also not logical. So should not think logic when come to JA. Then now Jo is the one apologizing for no fault of hers. It did not like one bit when Jo say sorry and Ja was silent and the look he gave as if telling her I say so. And later she again apologize to Ruks. Ja standing there without saying anything why just to safe himself from being sandwiched in between 2 begum. He perfectly aware that Ruks the one wrong. And Jo, I'm not very upset that she accepted guilt of a crime which she the innocent and also victim. See she had guilty on the very day the baby died. Even if Ruks did not open her mouth, she would have blame herself coz it is natural way to grieve. But what should the others should have done is correct her thoughts. But no and on top of it Jalal himself accused her without sharing any blame and dumped her out of his life for 3 years. That is not enough he when to war with Rajavanshis. In that 3 years she is just part of the harem and we can imagine how life would have been. This is like getting a confession out of an innocent by torturing. Repeating something again and again will become true eventhough it is not. That is why it is not advised to name call a child like stupid coz they may end up one. Okay I think should stop here. JJ are now married for 15 years I guess. So, should let go the past and embrace the present. Think this way that JJ had peaceful life for 8 years. Hopefully they are mature especially Jalal. It will look silly if they show separation now. They can have fight, argument and all but should be solved soon, They should know each other.

Rukaiyah...she is still walking as if she owns the land. I dont see any downfall of her at all. Jalal already said that no matter what I will be your dost. More than anything this friendship is the one is epic.

From good CVs to moderate Cvs and now the one writhing is worst Cvs.

Sorry for venting...its better now. Good thing is there are so many post which are hilarious and I thank you all friend for that.😆
 


 
 
 

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: realitybites

😆😆😆 So the show has taken 15 years leap? Just like that!!😛😆😆

By this hypersonic speed, it may end by Nov or early Dec.
Sadly the JA show which was once captivating has now turned into a lack lustre and drab.
While there were glaring follies in the tracks but still they managed to hold the viewers interest. But the fake pregnancy track of Ruq, Kyber track and Atifa track were not only incredulous but horrifying to show on part of the writers. How can they show the Mughal empire like this? So casual like its a flea market or a free for all zone?
If this was not enough the horrifying and ugly death of the babies, followed by the most repulsive and horrendous thing shown of Jalal blaming Jodha for spending the night with him and the death of Hussain.🤢🤢🤢 Who on earth can come up with such repulsive and obnoxious thoughts? The so called writers in Ekta team are all young women, its unfortunate and painful that they think like this.
The writers butchered all the characters-Jalal, Jodha, Ruq, HB, Todarmal, Birbal. Perhaps Salima has been spared.
By this account no wonder Ekta may show Jodha dying before Jalal so that she is sada suhaagan types😆😆😆
Is it fair to use licence of creative liberty to show the story in such banal and fable banner?
The story line Ekta and her team has followed is simply limited to Shaadi-Bache-Saazish.🤢 She is recycling it again and again. None of tracks in JA has gone outside this realm. Saazish will always be limited to jealousy or position.😕
Its nothing but complete bankruptcy of ideas and competency of the writers🤢.
Hope in future there are better QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT WRITERS who handle such subjects.

. Great post 👏..you have rightly picked up the major fictional tracks which were brought in to raise our tempers ...was there any grace elegance ,royal treatment in Khyber,fp n atifa track ? ...Jodha had a memory loss of being a royal queen and perhaps of being a pregnant woman requiring delicacy n had gone for a forest run , a stream swimming and what not in the company of Khyber,ruqu had given up every decency to cheat everyone during fp track and till now she has become even more bolder , she was happily let scot free as the leads were shown as dumb n stupid ,Jodha - the mahan queen who had happily accepted every blame whether due or not and Jalal had behaved abominably with his chief queen Jodha during atifa track ...the cv's can show any crap but to depict the infant love story with all smiles ,touching,kissing is totally indigestible ...you say salima has been spared from butchering - cv's should not be reminded dear as they are nicely picking up the characters to show their degradation ...and on top of that the zee ppl are continuously asserting that ruqu will be exposed n Jodha Jalal scenes will be the main focus of the story ...the cv's want that the viewers should not run away from JA n they will say anything !
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz

First of all Aady, see how the Cvs have not paid any attention to developing Salima-Jalal's relationship. Till now they have depicted that both of them had a platonic brother-sister kind of a relationship rather than that of a husband-wife. She was his lawfully wedded wife and to see that they had no physical relationship was difficult to digest and then they take an 8 year leap and show that Salima-Jalal had a kid. How on earth did that happen? This is like feeding us something and asking us to digest it even though it is inedible. For a moment I thought that the woman Jalal was talking to today in the garden was Salima. I thought there that ok Jalal did go to his other begum but it turned out to be his mother. This was so idiotic and haphazard. Don't you think?

As for what Ruk will do about her sooni godh, that woman is beyond me. I almost fell when Shaguni Bai called her Dayan.😆 Some people on the forum think that we will see Murad as Salima's son so this way Ruk can't say anything I guess. Ufff...I don't know what to think..😕


Shaguni Bhai always picks on the right topics. 😆

Neetz, whatever awe are shown we tend to connect to that. Several arguments may come up saying Jalal was part of a polygamous setup, so wanting him to only be with one wife is a little odd- And this is true. If they showed him having simultaneous relations with other begums, this development of Murad as Salima's son would be a little digestable, but NO. They show Salima purely as a mentor type person, who shares a sistery relation with Jalal and expect us to just accept the fact that suddenly over a leap they have a child???

They have given us a one woman Jalal who can't think about any other woman other than Jodha, now they better continue on with it. Polygamous set ups are already very very confusing to understand, on top of that when they suddenly add new layers to his relations, it gets very confusing. Now let's see, when have the CV's ever lived up to our expectations? 🥱

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