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Posted: 10 years ago
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Romantic Fantasizing


Finally it has arrived - romantic love. The love that Tellywood and almost all of IF fan fictions promote as the only kind of love.

Romantic love is wonderful, easy, and so uncomplicated. It is what keeps IF alive and its members happy. The feelings and spontaneous awareness that goes through the hero and/or heroine that we are one; made for each other. You are perfect and will provide most or all of my wants, needs, and desires. I can give and receive love effortlessly.

The hero and heroine think about each other constantly, make much eye contact, and are very affectionate to one another. Passion and expression of romance come often. The hero/heroine is living in a state of near-bliss and infatuation. There is a feeling that "we will never disagree" and somehow fate or forces larger than themselves have brought them together.

On one hand, we have Veer whose subliminal feelings for Pakhi have bubbled forth and are tormenting his conscious mind. And on the other, we have Pakhi whose brain has been fed with feelings for Anshuman since childhood affirm herself to be the Dhola-Maroo heroine.

Veer is romantically fantasizing while Pakhi is living the illusion that been instilled in her since childhood!

IMO - both Veer and Pakhi are going through the stages of love in reverse order. By this I mean, normally romantic love is the first blush of love until reality sets in and they see the other close up with their personal habits and foibles. It is then that the couple learns how to deal with very real differences, how to deal with conflict, and how to integrate being an independent person as well as someone in an intimate relationship. Both and Veer and Pakhi dealt with reality first - learning about each other's strengths and shortcomings and learning to trust and work together as buddies.

In fact, Veer and Pakhi have gone beyoun reality and actually reached the final stage of love - which is acceptance. A high level of warmth is present between them. They know each other and know what to expect. They accept what they are getting from the other. They work together as a team to stay connected and also maintain their own identities. They support and balance each other. They know how to provide a healthy and fulfilling life to their kids.

But both of them had believed themselves to be martyr's in love. Veer lived in the illusion that he only loved Kiriti and Pakhi that she only loves Anshuman.

Now Veer is becoming aware of his romatic fantasizing while Pakhi is living in delusion. She is afraid to step out of the boundaries entrenched deep within her psyche since childhood.

Well, if the media are to be believed, Jiji is going to zap Pakhi out of her funk.

P,S. What is it with Lavanya? - When her mother (Anuja) was around she did not care two cents about Anshuman - now she wants Pakhi to stay true to her dead brother. That woman through out the serial has been flaky and shifty!!!






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anasuya43 thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I have'nt watched today's episode to comment fully ,but i like this pic...😉
Edited by anasuya43 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I like what you said about Pakhi and Veer being accepting of their relationship. What I've enjoyed about Pakhi and Veer's relationship, is their journey. He comes as a helper, ends up becoming a trusted friend, then a partner, and finally will become her lover. It's a really believable and great arc.

Honestly tho, I feel like there's needs to be more time shown, in order to show Pakhi believably falling in love with Veer. For Veer, I think its a bit simpler to fall in love, because its been years since he last saw/ heard from Kirti. First off, she got married and he decided to live alone. Then she's been dead for a couple of years. He's had time to grieve and move on. I don't think Pakhi has been given that same time. She's been strong for Ayan, strong for the Rathore Empire, strong for Anshuman as she wants to fulfill his dream. Personally, I'd like to see Pakhi finally deeply grieve for Anshuman and have a lot of time to reflect before she falls in love with Veer.

I don't think that Pakhi is necessarily living in illusion. At this point in time, it would be extremely unrealistic if they showed her falling for Veer. Pakhi had over 22(?) years to love Anshuman. She's only known Veer for what 6(?) months? Of course she'll think she can't fall in love with anyone but Anshuman for now. She'll come to the realization of love for Veer much later.

As for Lavanya, idk. I think part of the reason why she clung on to her mother and Aryaman so much, was that she was trying to compensate for Anshuman. Remember, Anshuman had been Lavanya's only constant family for a long, long time. For a long time, the two only had each other as their mother had left a long time ago and presumably their father wasn't one to show much emotion. When he left, the only "biological" immediate family, with whom she had any sort of childhood connect to, was Anuja. So obviously she was drawn to Anuja. She didn't want to lose Anuja, thus she agreed to subscribe to Anuja's ideas + plans. She didn't really care about Aryaman I think. But later on she realized that Girish was also her family and she made the conscious decision to let go of her childhood connect and focus on her present. I think at her core, she's a lot like Anshuman: needy and insecure. And those two traits drive many of her decisions (including the ridiculous ones).
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good analysis..

We have two persons in a compromise marriage..Veer and Pakhi..

Veer is experiencing the essence of love once again..He is in love with her that himself is amazed how it happened.

Coming to Pakhi she is not ready nor dont even want to think to move on in life...she has one mantra i can't love anyone except Anshuman..its understandable her situation ..she has waited for Anshuman for 18 years and has loved him unconditionally though he already had one marriage ..a child and an affair with Tanya.

As they say life always offers you a second chance and its called tomorrow...Pakhi has got it in veer but refusing to grab that second chance..Girish even told her to give veer a chance but we do know Pakhi will be adamant on her decision..

What will make her realise that life has given her a second chance to be happy ..its not a sin to move on and love again..As per spoiler pakhi will taunt veer about his love for kirti...One thing Pakhi should realise has she not given Anshuman a second chance..not one but several times ..married though she was his wife..wanted to marry Tanya and get rid of her and last point a finger on her character..even that she gave him a chance ..May be Pakhi should really let go of Veer if she is ready to live as Anshuman widow...

Its a fact sometimes second chances work better than the first..lets see what Pakhi choose ..Live in the past or accept the second chance in love and a beautiful future..one more thing it may take time but Pakhi should accept Veer as her husband in true sense with her heart and in love with him not just because of Ayaan...
Edited by saveeta24 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very interesting comments and I agree with the views expressed

If the spoiler alert is true and not Veer's dream and Pakhi actually blames Veer for losing Kirti as his love for her must not be true then I am truly saddened because that is very harsh and cruel. Veer is experiencing the feeling of love after almost 20 years. Pakhi waited for Ansuman for 18 years. The operative word is "waited" she had a hope that he would come. Veer had no hope because Kirti was married to someone else. Pakhi after all the trials and tribulations actually was lucky enough to experience (even for a short time) what it feels like to be loved by someone and live in a loving relationship. Veer on the other hand has not had even one moment of that. In fact until Reha told him he did not know for sure that Kirti cared for him. So he will be deeply wounded by Pakhi's accusation.

Pakhi is normally very kind, understanding, forgiving sometimes to a fault but when it comes to Veer she is very judgmental. Although time again she has been proved wrong Pakhi always thinks the worst of Veer. It makes me wonder whether somewhere deep down subconsciously she knows that if it was not for Ansuman she could fall in love with Veer and therefore is pushing him away in the harshest manner so that he walks away before she has to ever face that truth consciously.

Just my opinion - no offence intended.

As for Lavenya I understand that she wants to cling to her brother but I found it little difficult to understand her logic that Ansuman lives through Pakhi and Pakhi is keeping him alive. Surely Ansuman lives through Aayan more than Pakhi
Edited by payal7 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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^ Yeah I agree in that Pakhi is kinda mean to Veer. But I think its kind of a natural reaction for her. As much of a great person Veer is, let's not forget that he initially entered her life with the intention of spoiling her plans. And he did cause her some problems. So I'm pretty sure that Pakhi is not over that.

And I also agree that she probably thinks the worst of him because she does not want to consider the best of him. But its working in his favour because he continually proves himself to be good.

As for Lavanya, although she irritates the hell out of me sometimes, I find her really interesting. She's clinging on to Pakhi because of that comment Jiji made, about Pakhi no longer being theirs. Pakhi was Lavanya's sister-in-law first. And now she's probably feeling like she's not only being kicked out of Pakhi's life, but also out of Anshuman's memories associated with Pakhi. Lavanya said that for the first time, her maternal home did not feel like home. Even after Anshuman's death, that home still felt like hers and had Anshuman's memories. But now, she's being kicked out and feeling insecure. Anshuman does live on in Ayan more than Pakhi, but Pakhi is the one who has chances of being pulled away from Lavanya's family (as Pakhi is married into another family now and not necessarily her bhabhi anymore either). So her insecurity is causing her to cling on to Pakhi. Idk, that's what I thought.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Anasuya, Lovely Lady, Saveeta, and Payal

Thank you for sharing your views. Anasuya thank you for the beautiful CAP.


I am sorry I cannot reply individually because I am pressed for time.

I must say - I like the different perspective and the thoughts of all contribute to a better idea of what it is that Pakhi, Lavanya, and Veer are undergoing.

Personalities are complex and individual emotions have several shades - no one person can grasp it all, we can but try. So I thank you all for sharing your viewpoints
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi every one!
Yesterday's episode was a mixture of cute and sad. On one hand Veer is falling on the other hand Pakhi is holding strongly to her love for Anshuman.
This is really going to be an interesting phase in their relationship that has so far become comfortable.
I do feel kinds sad for Veer, in all intents and purposes this is the 2nd time he is experiencing this type of love ... the first time she got married , this time she is going to fight him. Poor guy.
Now that idea will be in her head though I guess Pakhi will not be able to think about it. After all it is only when some one brings something into your awareness you start thinking about ot sometimes. So when she learns that he has feelings for her she will fight it but she will deal with it some how.
Lets see how it goes.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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When true love is considered , you cannot fall for someone else .. thats all I'll say..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Anonee
What does the phrase Dhola Maro mean please? Sorry my Hindi is not that good😳

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