JA Journey-A perception - Page 2

Originally posted by: prav2

my views in@Blue.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Wonderful post. I agree about love and hate. Jodha hated him with a passion and Jalal wanted her with a passion.

Like you pointed out as MA asked why did he not just make her a bandi. Here I would like to point out probably 3 things - one Jalal did not want to antagonize the entire Rajputana - he very well knew this would have been seen as an extreme insult and would have united everybody.

Secondly Jodha might have committed Jauhar before he even got to see her!

Thirdly he did not just want her body, he wanted HER and he was attracted not just to her beauty but her passion too. That made her save Abdul and put a sword on his neck. So he wanted her for his own and he knew marriage will make her forever his.

Jodha was very deeply affected by everything MA and Ruk said and more than his feelings, when HERS started to change they scared her. She realized that SHE was going to give him more power on HER due to her feelings. So she had to guard them fiercely and never let him know.

Interesting point you asked what if Jalal had said he loves her and wants her that day? She might not have trusted his love totally as in what if he is saying this now but what if his feelings change? If she actually believed he loved her, she might have given in who knows but she would not have told him about her own feelings.

Anyways her feelings came out when she saw him get near Ben. Till then she held Jalal's entire attention and suddenly he was giving it to someone. Jodha did not like it and more than his actions HER reactions worried her. She did not want to care or feel love for him but she had no control, just like he had no control when it came to her. He still does not like he could not stand when she praised Birbal who clearly meant nothing to her!

I remember this one line of Jalal's that "hum sapne me bhi ye nahi soch sakte ki koi sapne me bhi aap ka deedar kare" - he could have hundreds still he only wanted her and her not wanting him made him insecure. His having the entire haram made her insecure.

So they both took so long to let feelings come out, even to acknowledge them.

Their feelings came out only when they became so strong that it did not matter to either of them if they would be hurt. Jalal confessed in rage and Jodha in anger (in Sujamal track) later they actually confessed in love only when they felt confident about other's feelings.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Excellent writeup Priya .👏👏

Charu .

Originally posted by: prav2

Hi Friends,

I'm relatively new to this forum. So whatever I'm saying could have been discussed before but since I didn't get an opportunity to put forth my views before I wished to share my perceptions on JA's journey.

Since the journey even is about hate turning to love I too would like to go upon over this from my POV.

For me Love and hate share a common denomination-Passion. Without Passion you could never truly hate or love a person. Sometimes the hate is clouded by the negative traits like Jealous, Greed and turns it to an obsession which wholly consumes that individual and destroys them like in case of Maham or Ruq. That's y scholars advise us to " the one who harm us and then try to work for justice as a whole and not just for our own cause (because obsession has the power to even consume an otherwise good person and destroy them) which is the very quality I find endearing in our leads.

In some, Like Jo and Jalal life gives us an opportunity to see the other side of the coin and make us realize our roots of hatred are misplaced and at this moment the very hate turns to love. The fascinating aspect of their characterization is not just their qualities but the various insecurities and fear displayed which make them refreshingly human and help us to connect.

From Jalal's side the moment he saw her he had a certain pull towards her. But then two things happened. He was impressed on her for saving Abdul, but the very next moment she says she wants the head of Jalal. The warrior is him sees a challenge and accepts it immediately and want to defeat and conquer the opposition. Yet the human in him earns for surrendering himself to the object of his love. Maham here asks a valid question "If you want her y don't you just make her daasi and keep her.Why begum that too giving into all her conditions". If what he has felt is just a challenge and if only he had truly wanted to defeat her he could have very well done just that, but these unknown chords that are pulling him, wants her to be his equal and then defeat her .He doesn't understand her undue hatred towards him and so believe it as her arrogance and want to conquer it. Then comes his change of heart when he understood the reason behind her hatred and that very moment by bowing to kaali ma he surrenders to his love.

This is the moment for Jo too as this gesture helps her to see a different jalal and her hate begins to crumble and completely dissolves at the moment he gives that fort to sukanya. The following tent scene is beautifully choreographed as it shows their changing dynamics. Why should Jo react that extremely that day? Only her changing feelings affect her so much that she couldn't understand y is she beginning to be attracted to very person she hated and tries to run far from it.

Then come the dhakka scene which beautifully again portrays their conflicting emotion. For me personally till to date that was one of the beautifully choreographed and emoted episode. In jalal's dream we again see him repeating now he had finally defeated and conquered her. Yet when he come in reality, he say "I bow before your Love" shows his earning for surrendering himself to his love.

It is a poignant moment for Jo too. She clearly said she doesn't hate him anymore but yet it is hard for her to accept she has started loving him as the fear instilled in her by maham and ruq that once he

Conquers her she will become one another .Before she would not have worried about it, but now with her changing mind this fear has its deep roots. If we see in that episode too until the moment he said "YOUR LOVE" she has been perfectly ok .that word brought back the fear she long held. I have often wondered would her reaction been the same if he had simply said "I Love you and need you". So often we never express our true feeling on the fear of rejection as it's the most painful thing to bear.

I feel these insecurities and fears are always a part of us and this only helps rekindle the passion in love and makes the relation stronger as we witnessed in jalal in sujamal's scenario and in Jo's case the Atifa track

These are simply my perceptions and I might even be wrong in some areas .so I would be very interested if you all could share your perceptions too.

very well written dear.. its something new that what u described. u have put rare but logical facts to describe how hate-love relationship between jodha and jalal.😳

i also wanna say something from dif perspective 😊

i always believe that what we see on screen that very hardly can see in reality . i mean we people have no time for their close ones. if we still have, but we don't care it. coz now our lives become so technically. emotions, feelings always be there.but we never ever try to put them in to action. our busy schedules don't allow us to love or care with full of emotions towards others. money or every other needs come first . sad but true! exactly,we know that. but we can't help it.

so i still think that we people need that human quality to be real. pure love, attentions,care and everything we need but we can't get them in reality . so somehow we want to see that pure love if it is not in reality.so on screen we r addicted to see that and what we get in jodha akbar's pure love that is really what we wanna see. 😳

i wanted to tell this thing coz y we all people so much addicted to every little things between jodha and akbar. it's the love what we wanna see. how jalal(lover) care his jodha(lover), how jalal(husband) care his jodha(wife), how jalal (friend) care rukaiya(friend)...etc...😊

so finally i can say we see some true soul mates on screen and it brings us some happy coz thatz what we want in our real life too😳

your post made me to say this all...

Originally posted by: dushi123

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