I LOVE JodhaAkabr - 24 - Mod note Pg11&15

Happy sunny Sunday everybody. 😃😃😃

What a strange ME!!! It was solely for MA glorification journey to start! So CVs gave Jalal Gajanitis and he forgot promptly that Ruk had insulted him horribly in DEK, she had dragged his ancestors in the argument against him, she had derided his offer of punishment and openly said she did not trust him. Jalal FORGOT all that Ruk did and that he is supposed to be SHOULD BE furious with Ruk. 😡😡

It seems Jodha and Jalal have totally forgotten that Jodha has promised to give one baby to Ruk. 😕 They were blissfully talking about teaching OUR BABIES and happy in the anticipation. Hope they will remember all this on Monday! Jalal remember you SHOULD be angry with Ruk! Jodha remember one of your baby is to be given to Ruk! Everybody REMEMBER what Ruk is! So Jalal please put the antenna back in place! 😆

Everybody had forgotten Jodha is pregnant including her! Till Ruk dragged Jalal to DEK asking for a baby. Cos NOBODY seems to care or WANTS to take care of Jodha.

Jalal seems to be promising Jodha some things and then promptly forgetting that he had promised Jodha he will take care of her, shower her with so much love to compensate for the tears. We are STILL waiting if Jalal gets out of his Gajanitis and actually starts taking some care of Jodha - other than saying the mandatory line Jodha Begum you should take better care you are pregnant!

I wonder what HB, SB and GB are busy doing?! HB probably lives in some ivory tower where she seems oblivious that her favorite bahu/beti needs loads of TLC and her care and experienced hand! SB seems to think that instead of HER taking any care of Jodha she should send Rahim to give Jodha running exercise and maybe is busy writing some poetry she will gift to Jodha!

CVs sure have their epic love story going - with Jaan Begum!!! So they make sure Jalal promptly forgets all his insults in one episode and is back to cuddling forehead kissing her!🤢😡

The precap brought back HORRIBLE HORRIFYING UGLY memories of the Ruk fake pregnancy track back. CVs sent Ruk to spoil EVERY first moment of JodhaJalal - the hug, the love declaration, the SR morning, the pregnancy news announcement to Jalal - why would they stop their epic love for Ruk during Jodha's first pregnancy?! So CVs sent the sick menage back it seems! 😡😡😡

I hope CVs realize and DO GET the zee feedback - almost EVERY viewer wants to know if and WHEN Ruk is going to be punished? That CVs excessive love for Ruk and the sick menage scenes are TRP leakers which sent viewers away in disgust after fake pregnancy track!

So CVs please please spare us the UGLY menage scenes and Ruk hovering around and LET Jodha and Jalal be together in her torture No.1 pregnancy!

Everybody is waiting in anticipation of this chess match. Ruk started it and Jalal was not even aware till she asked for the additional legal bits to be put in farman. THEN the King entered the field and took the legal right to his baby back from Ruk. Ruk scored her first self goal (sorry for this but I just know how chess pieces move not much beyond that! 😆). Jalal the King is now on the prowl and he is going to guard his Queen and cubs from the evil Queen. I want to see a fiercely protective husband guarding the rights of his love, his Begum Jodha from being wrenched from her. For his baby to remain with them. It will not be much fun if Ruk does something horrible and is then punished a la Adham! We want Jalal to catch her - we want to see Teda Jalal checkmate Ruk. This can be the BEST track yet cos we might get Tada possessive Jalal protecting Jodha and her rights and BESTEST yet - HUGE punishment to Ruk! 😃

I want to see a GRANDEST DEK scene with the WORST humiliations EVER given in JA for Ruk. I want to see her ridiculed and her ugly selfish vicious face to come before everybody. Hope CVs do not disappoint us like they did in Ruk fake pregnancy track, like they did in sorry excuse of a downfall of MA - cos if they disappoint us this time then the viewers will disappoint them!

CVs should not think DEK is place for insulting only good people like Jodha, Todarmal, Jalal! They may love their Jaan Begum but viewers WATCH ONLY FOR JODHA & JALAL.

Everybody please share your favorite posts, threads of the week.

WHY Jodha and Jalal BOTH have not suspected Ruk.

Jalal also did not suspect till Ruk asked him to add the point baby will only be hers. THIS is the moment Jalal started suspecting Ruk.

Just see Ruk's behavior AFTER the fake pregnancy track. Jalal pardoned her and since then in Mirchi war track Ruk herself told Jalal she knows he loves Jodha to go to her, praised Jodha openly, in Atifa track Ruk opened upto Jodha and later even cooked for her. You remember Jalal saw Ruk GB talk and smiled.

So TILL yesterday Jalal and Jodha were both thinking Ruk has changed.
When Zakira talked about second chances about SD, Jodha said what matters is what one does with the second chance. So Jodha has given Ruk a second chance at happiness whole heartedly.

Also fake pregnancy track was also about Ruk and baby - so Jodha and Jalal both might be thinking Ruk is getting upset about her barren state and this is why the wish.

The min Jalal got a doubt HE got into action and took the farman from Ruk.

Now Jalal will watch Ruk like a hawk.

Why did Jodha not show her pain to Jalal after the DEK scene? If Jodha had given even a HINT to Jalal that she is feeling very sad and miserable about her decision - Jalal would have blown his top! He was in barely controlled rage since morning and IF Jodha had cried in front of him saying I am going to lose my one baby - Jalal might have gone to Ruk and tore the farman.

Jalal would have been upset at Jodha for doing this and upset with HIMSELF for letting her do this. So for his sake Jodha had to not show any emotions to Jalal.

Secondly - the ENTIRE Jodha Jalal scene had a DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

Jalal was upset about having made the decision and after the stunt Ruk pulled in DEK FIRST time his antenna went up ABOUT Ruk's motives. Before this Jalal had been caught up in Ruk's drama and GENUINELY seemed to have thought Ruk is craving a baby. This is WHY he went to Ruk's hojara to console her EVEN AFTER HIS PUBLIC INSULT by Ruk in DEK.

Jodha does not suspect a thing. She felt that if we are giving the baby let us do it fully. This legal thing is something Jodha did not understand cos SO FAR Jodha is thinking she will have full access to her baby - somewhat similar to she gets with Rahim. Jodha does not have rights over Rahim but she gets to love him like her own son with SB.

Jodha telling Jalal that since their babies would have called Ruk Badi Ammi why was she not satisfied was about Ruk wanting to feel it was HERS. This is the way Jodha saw it not suspecting a thing.

Next thing Jodha was trying to reassure Jalal was about Ruk being a good mother. IF JODHA HAD EVEN A DOUBT IN HER MIND THAT RUK WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE BABY SHE WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED.

So Jodha was telling Jalal Ruk will be good mother RUK WILL TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THE BABY - THIS SENTENCE GOT JALAL THE BRAINWAVE and IMMEDIATELY after Jodha said this Jalal told her he needs to do something URGENTLY and WILL MEET HER LATER.

Jalal would have gone to HB told her of his plan that is why HB was there in Ruk's hojara - she did not go to confront Ruk but AS A WITNESS to the farman Jalal made Ruk give.

It does not matter whether Ruk mis-wrote - Marium uz Makani is the WITNESS and also the court clerk.

Irony and sad thing is Ruk is going to hurt the 2 people who MOST want to see her happy and actually are making a HUGE sacrifice for her sake. While Ruk does not even CARE about it! I mean she does not care about he baby at all! So Ruk's karma is finally going to catch up with her. I do not want to see Ruk lay her ugly selfish hand on the baby at all. Hope Jalal protects his baby from going to Ruk.

Jalal has got the legal right for his baby back to him and Jodha - it is just to be seen WHEN and HOW he claims this right. 😃

To describe the epic love of our beloved JodhaJalal

Preetgurti

just sitting byside bonfire hand to n hand resting on shoulder is romance

When you are in pain but your pain is visible in someone else eyes are s romance

chitterati

Neither I am me,

nor you are you,

nor you are me.

Also, I am me,

you are you

and you are me.

We have become one

in such a way,

That I am confused whether

I am you,

or you are me.

Loved these posts

Wishes and vachans are the bane of JA. Everyone is always giving everyone else a wish to do as they please or a vachan to bind them from doing as they please.

JAfanCharu

Rukkaiyya may not have an opportunity to lay her evil hands on these pure , innocent babies , before that , they may be in Kanhaa's protective embrace for good

Jalal is extremely hurt by her horrendous demand , but equally angry too . However he is not surprised by it , he clearly expresses to Jodha that Rukkaiyya will not stop here and will definitely ask for more . I do not want her to stop either . I want her to continue with her hideous act and expose herself , reveal her "real" intentions , thereby making it easy for Jalal to nab her .

Cleo12345

Ruk is the most pampered character in Agra... Even more than Rahim n BBs daughter put together. Everyone wears their kids gloves before entering her Hojra. Jalal has other begums. They do not hv kids ...maybe never will. Is it only the khaas begums in Mughal empire who can have the desire to hv kids? If this track does not result in Ruk bhandafod, then I don't understand the reason to introduce this track at all.

Rashmi81

.I am angry with the cvs who write Jodha's pathetic dialogues and scenes.Is somebody among them having a khunnas with the actress?? I never heard such ridiculous dialogues from expectant mother." Agar aap Aapke Mitra ko bhet dena chahate hain? " Is child a five star Chocolate bar that you are giving so merrily? They are showing Jalal unhappy, infact he has nothing to loose as child is going from one wife to another

But can't they show solo scene of Jo where she is crying and consoling herself that she has to put a brave act infront of others,

This scene should be before the DEK one of giving Farman to Ruku.So she being cool could be understood,

I seriously feel lack of proper scenes and no good dialogues for Jo, something is fishy somewhere.

Without a doubt for me the BEST posts, best writing of the last week. These posts are from Radhika's thread about Spirituality

lasyap3

People say often that SPIRITUALITY is TOTALLY different from ETERNITY. Yet, I say that these are TWO most important elements of life.

My personal hunch is that these are INTERLINKED.

LOVE also present in this TRIANGLE of three vertices, the other two being the above qualities I mentioned.

"There are a hundred trillion cells in the human body," she said. "And every single one of the cells of my body loves you. We shed cells, and grow new ones, and my new cells love you more than the old ones, which is why I love you more every day than I did the day before. It's science. And when I die and they burn my body and I become ashes that mix with the air, and part of the ground and the trees and the stars, everyone who breathes that air or sees the flowers that grow out of the ground or looks up at the stars will remember you and love you, because I love you that much."

Firstly for attaining a seat in the train of journey to Eternity, Love is the ticket.Love is that divine emotion, pure bonding between two hearts and souls.

The idea of the soul is that it is eternal and that it continually receives from an Eternal Source. So the idea in any relationship is never really what you can get from it; but the idea is what you can give to the other, what you can put into it. Withdrawing from eternity" and depositing into the physical realm. Of course, as you both give, you are also both receiving from one another, thus a beautiful relationship is formed and maintained. It's that certain flow that needs to be encouraged and allowed. I say "allowed" because it's natural, however, it's usually not "allowed" because our human faculties are taught and bombarded by stupid ideas in magazines that relationships are all about what one can get from it; it's never about giving! So in a nutshell, the idea is to give because you know that you are receiving from an Everlasting Source, but to also remain graceful and eager enough to also receive gratefully from the other. And this is how eternal relationships are born. We are all conduits of eternity and we happen to meet another conduit whom we feel we belong with, then we share what we receive from eternity and receive what the other has to share."

What if, there is halt in this journey, somebody tries to pull the emergency alarm in the train?Then remember these words-

"Forgive the past. It is over. Learn from it and let go. People are constantly changing and growing. Do not cling to a limited, disconnected, negative image of a person in the past. See that person now. Your relationship is always alive and changing."

The below words sum up everything . This is a perfect equation for the balance between the triangle.

"It takes three to make love, not two: you, your spouse, and God. Without God people only succeed in bringing out the worst in one another. Lovers who have nothing else to do but love each other soon find there is nothing else. Without a central loyalty life is unfinished."

Now, the real question comes,

How these two elements, SPIRITUALITY and ETERNITY are connected

Here is my concluding explanation---

To reach, the output called ETERNITY, LOVE is the algorithm and SPIRITUALITY is the logic and constraint.(Oh my God?, my obsession to programming ) .

History_geek

Hi all,

I will not go to Rumi this time(he is the King of Spirituality), and neither will use any of the theories pertaining to this topic, because Spirituality applies to all of us differently...We all perceive and look at it in different manner...I am jotting down whatever came to my mind i free flow...It's again an UN-edited Version...Pardon the errors, if any...

When i look at J-J's journey, it appears quite different to me...They lived in that era where they did not have all those amenities which we have today..No an iota of difference of opinion here that, they were the MOST RICH and powerful personalities of their times...Not all are Akbar and not all are MUZ and not all are SOUL-MATES as Jodha-Akbar...Someone said - "With greater powers come greater responsibilities"...I would go a step further and add one more line in this in JJ's context -- "With greater powers come greater responsibilities and ALSO GREATER TROUBLES" ... No doubt, Jalal was in a powerful position, hence he was always the NISHANA of his enemies...Poor Man...Had to FIGHT against his OWN Kinsmen, and faced betrayal...Be it Adham, Sharif, MA, Munim, Bairam, MC Begum...Don't want to write more on this, but this list is Endless and went on increasing till he ruled..!!!...

Sochkar hi ajeeb aur bura lagta hai ki, those people, had to lose so many kids in infancy...Those days when the Empire had many successors , Mughal Empire was an exception...Salim came quite late... The Birth of Twins, even today, creates so much pleasure and evokes celebrations of a different KIND...Imagine, those days, i have NOT heard, any Queen delivering twins... ... I can not imagine the amount of emotional trauma, JJ had to bear after losing them...Mazak wali baat nahi hai > those people lost their 4 kids back to back.. !!!! And, twins included in that...

Ok...Coming back, i want to say that, a person.?.He/She may be powerful to any extent, but there are some "WOUNDS" , the remedy for which is NOT the superficial materialistic comforts and power, but "Spirituality" ... The Royals had many means of entertainment, be it singing, dance, shikar(hunting), elephant fights, trophy wars, etc., or "Aankh Micholi and Kabutarbaazi " , and many other means...But some losses and deep scars of life can not be healed by these means...They need something else...I guess, here is when Spirituality comes into picture...

Spirituality, for me is a UNDEFINED DOMAIN.. ...And, i can justify my stand, as there are many shades to this WORD...We can go on an on and keep writing on this issue...So, here i go...>>..I think it is the personal transformation in accordance with "certain" ideals which are BOUND to result in our psychological growth, as it denotes the realm of the inner life, that is, the purity of motives, affections, intentions, inner SELF, and the the analysis of one's feelings... In laymen terms, it may be a kind of blissful experience... It can be also seen as a process of re-formation which "aims to recover the original SELF of man"...and is often seen as a blend of humanistic psychological growth, along with mystical and arcane happenings..We all know JJ's "Tryst with Spirituality" and their COMBINED trips to Sufi Saints/ Mystics (Ajmer Sharif, Agra Dargah, Shri Gusainji Ashram, etc..I think these will be shown in our serial.. ..I and KDR81 have mentioned these in our OLD threads..)..If we combine these trips as a PROOF of their Spiritual Journey, then this topic will also include the ethos of mysticism, perfection, devotion and piety...Infact, it relates to the mental aspect of life, contrasted with the material and sensual aspects...Coming to the other side of coin, it can also be accorded a social meaning along with the psychological aspect(described above), because it is the spark which leads one to a journey to attain more secular beliefs, and hence has got to do a lot with our social outlook...I can prove each of these words attaining the maximum meaning in Jodha-Akbar's context...Socially, Psychologically, Mentally, or many aspects which i am writing below...Take Social - And you get the doctrine of secularism getting past the 'treadmill', thereby helping in the Creation of a Better Nation, and this fabric was responsible for the flourishing Mughal Empire in Akbar's time... .Hukumat Taaqat ke dum par nahi ki ja sakti...Kuch der ki liye kar sakte ho par zyaada waqt ke liye nahi..These BIG things are often rooted in such small aspects which we tend to ignore...Take Psychological/Mental - And you find a Fountain of Strength Emerging within, which gives you a MEANS to get past the MOST Traumatic Situations of your lives...I want to give examples, but again i am restraining myself.!.

I would also like to mention that, Spirituality has NOTHING to do with a religion...Often, it is confused with religion.. I can give countless examples in this regard, but that may be "out of scope".. .. Hence, only writing normal passages today...{ Those who want to know on this, can Google for "SBNR", and you will know what i mean here.. } .. Still, can there be a BIGGER example than OUR OWN Jodha and Akbar.?., two beings who WENT PAST all barriers, and unshackled every tradition...Their journey is Unique for that time, and even in today's world, for they blended 2 faiths to reach the true SELF...Spirituality is not merely following customs and traditions of a religion,{ hence i am NOT talking about this topic} although that helps too. It is an inner awareness of one's connectedness with a higher, call it God or Collective or Source or Life Force, some call it the Ultimate Soul, etc...Another aspects, can be Gratitude, Compassion and empathy...These 2 virtues are the true spiritual bridges. When we feel for another person and connect with him/her, we are indeed connecting to the "spiritual realm" . Only a "genuinely" spiritual person can "truly" feel another's pain and pleasure. And if you can do it, then you are spiritual, whether or not you "believe" in spirituality...For me BELIEVING in Spirituality or not is different than, whether you are spiritual or not...B'coz one may NOT be knowing that he has taken a spiritual route, but may be PASSIVELY following it.. Gratitude opens a floodgate of inner peace, and thereby spiritual awareness. Just take note of what we do in our daily lives. Take note of the blessings. Bless the food we eat. Make a list of things we are grateful for. All these will open us up, and bring us closer to experiencing peace and awakening. When we are grateful for everything from our food to our life, we are acknowledging the presence of a Universal Energy and welcoming more positivity into our lives..Isn't this called spirituality.?.In modern times, we all are told by our teachers/elders, etc to maintain a diary and note our daily happenings in it, and told to learn and DERIVE some meaning from it...Same thing happened in OLD times, when Kings used to have many chroniclers with them..Isn't this something on the lines of spirituality.?. Here we are learning something...Isn't it.?. The cause is NOBLE, that is we are exploring where we went wrong...I also want to talk about the Spirituality and Rationalism in this case, in this context i remember Akbar's rational views and Einstein's also...Both, refer to Spirituality in "Rational context"...But that can be "out of scope"..Lets leave it...


Hence, in my sense, Spirituality is a wide subject and we can explore as many dimensions as possible.. ...You see, that there can be various facets of this ONE word, and i'll be very happy if the Creatives are able to rope in even an "iota" of the above qualities in Jodha Akbar...I have seen episodes where the Creatives nailed this ESSENCE perfectly...Does anyone remembers these scenes.?.
1. When Jalal was against Jodha's faith conversion..
2. When he removed the Pilgrim Tax..+.. Jodha's reaction in Amer when he removed the pilgrim tax..
3. Jodha-Hamida convo, after jalal gets well, after the Tiger attack..
These scenes were different...And, they were NOT about "normal talks of tolerance" , but the execution and dialogues in these scenes were par excellence...Sometimes the CV's really shock us with such stuff...I wish, that DEEP thinking and finely "grained" dialogues are again given back to the Leads... The RAW Material is present in this post, and i think this can be conveyed to the CV's (albeit in a easier to understand manner. )

Thanks for bearing with this long post...I hope this made SOME sense...
This is my wishful thinking for our Jodha Akbar.!!.

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

PS : I read that the actor portraying Akbar in MRP has given screen test for character of Salim! This means 20 years LEAP! 😡 Seems they have lost it! WE LOVE JodhaAkbar and JodhaJalal but It seems Cvs lack creativity to portray an amazing epic love story of 42 years filled with enough material for 10 serials! I do not care about SalimAnarkali 😡🤢

M R P Given test for Salim, & he is Love in with Anarkali, How can he Will Love Anarkali, SalimAnarkali, Love was Passonate LOVE.🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 or Cv want Other Mughal-E-Azam, so they should see Movie Once Time, Dilip +Madubala, passonate Love.MRP for he is Right, But Salim;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;NO, But Audience wants No, Leap But Again Leap talks tensing Me.

Yes FULLY agree No Leap No Leap. Only JODHA AKBAR.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

PS : I read that the actor portraying Akbar in MRP has given screen test for character of Salim! This means 20 years LEAP! 😡 Seems they have lost it! WE LOVE JodhaAkbar and JodhaJalal but It seems Cvs lack creativity to portray an amazing epic love story of 42 years filled with enough material for 10 serials! I do not care about SalimAnarkali 😡🤢

DO NOT WANT LEAP! DO NOT WANT LEAP!! DO NOT WANT LEAP!!!

Originally posted by: history_geek

Read your post...Some Good thoughts there.. :)
I want to write about Leap..

For me JA is simply JA, and nothing else...I have been so much
engrossed in Jodha and Akbar, and i have devoted so much of my
resources(not only monetary but otherwise also) that i have no words to tell you... I will
be really heart-broken if they skip those well defined tracks from real
life events...If they introduce the CRAP CALLED Salim-Anarkali , i think
this serial is bound for a doom.!!. I will "lose interest" in REEL JA...S-A will NOT do any good..It will reduce the space for Akbar and Jodha..

I
do not know the reasons for LEAP (if any)...But only passion can not
be the reason for a Leap.. Majority of
Audience(here and out of our forum also) are
quite happy with the 'kind of passion' the CV's are depicting...TRP's
are more or less same...There is
SO MUCH to
show, in JA..I do not know why are the makers skipping these
tracks...Perhaps, they can not afford to show all the wars of Akbar, and
esp some "dreaded" wars, like Chittor, etc. This is what my hunch
is...Why can't they show those trips of Jo-Ja to Ajmer , etc.?. They are
skipping that Empire expanding period..Why.?. They are totally leaving
that MP track and Chittor, etc...They are "quite nicely" leaving these
incidents from Akbar's life and focusing on other aspects, that
too by making it ULTRA-positive.!!!. But Now, slowly, of late, they are portraying
ONLY one version/shade of Akbar...And, this is the reason i see for the
Leap, for they can not afford to show that Brutal Empire expansion period.. I want them to show HIM not as a SAINT, but Like an Emperor , who can be as brutal as ANYTHING and KIND as well .!!.

For Ex: Akbar took title of Zil-e-Illahi after
1584..But here he is shown to have this title since 1562..!!!!..He threw away the power of Maulvis in 1578-79, but here they have shown it too early...!!!!!!!!..
They
have preponed his reforms, barring slavery/Pilgrim Tax...CV's
are skipping those cruel wars and are not able to balance the
scales in depicting the shadeS of Akbar..The
budget is one of the reasons, but i do not agree that it is the sole
reason...

Akbar was Tedha , but not like
this..If you have seen the Nur Jahan serial of DD, you will
understand..That was Akbar and that was Jodha...I do not see an inch of
Tedha-ness in present Akbar of our serial.!. I saw a glimpse of Jodha i concluded , in previous week, after MA's Curse..

It was the initial episodes of J-A where i
saw Tedha Akbar, and a FIERCELY strong Emperor.!. There also the CV's HAD focused on the Human Side of Akbar but it was Balanced with the Political Machinations.!.


Anarkali - is a totally
fictitious story... Salim was not Akbar BUT he was not a zealot also...He
embibed many good qualities from his parents...He revolted for
different reasons...Instead of dispelling that misconception, the PH/Ek
is re-enforcing it...They can show, that after Akbar if anyone surviving
was "somewhat" tolerant, then it was Salim..Instead of improving his
image, the makers are again reducing him...

<font color="#0000FF">About the TRP's...I
do not see any major problem..The serial is consistently performing in
top 3 (or lets say top 5 consistently..) And all this, despite the fact
that we all here , keep "kosofying" the CV's..LOL.. No matter many of us are fed up, but we still discuss this serial here..Isn't it.?. ;p
For we all are addicted to this serial..😆
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I
think we should wait...Even if the actor is finalized, we do not know,
<font color="#0000FF">when will the Leap take place</font>. Also, <font color="#0000FF">what if the actor is chosen for a
different role other than Salim.?.😉</font>