why osama's proposal to kashaf bother zarron - Page 11

Originally posted by: nevah_mind

That is one point will never understand and will never accept about justifying a typical man.

(The men in my life - my father, my brothers, the special one in my life are not at all like this, maybe that is the biggest reason I will always find this attitude objectionable. But that is my personal experience. I however do accept that these kind of men -like Zaroon, exist and that majority of men are like that, in our society. But I will never justify for them)

Given that, Kashaf's words to Abrar, just before she accepted Zaroon's proposal -"that if a man is looking for certain qualities in a wife, a wife too can want certain things in her husband" was very meaningful and thought-worthy. Applicable here, that even a woman can "allow" a certain amount of freedom to her husband and draw the line that she doesn't want him to cross.

To me, it s not only a man's right to put restrictions and "give" freedom, while he is allowed to get away scot free by doing whatever he wants.

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

when did i say that ?

my comment was moving on from yours above, now in pink. You mentioned Zaroon being a typical man, and I took that thought further. In discussions this is the way conversations flow. It does not mean anyone is challenging anyone.

I said it before, I'm saying it again, everyone has their own perspective and their own vision. it doesn't make anyone right or wrong. Its a matter of one owns opinion, based on ones situation and experience.

obviously even women have the rights to put that equal amount of restrictions when needed, and we have seen it happening. Asmara broke up with him and that was equality, he wanted to change her certain attitude and she did not want to change, so she drew the line .

I think the problem is sometimes people get carried away because feminism comes into play, but we tend to forget that how society works . ur fiancee, or my fiancee will never like it if i wear shorts and rome around in the streets of pakistan, whereas in canada thats just pretty normal.

Zaroon had a problem with how his fiancee has adapted the society the belong to and not that she was not listening to him.

Feminism? Again that is a term which has its own definition for each woman. So I'm not sure what kind of thoughts are included in the reference here. To me, equality between a man and a woman, or between husband and wife is of utmost importance. This is the reality i my surroundings, and that's the way it works for me. That might be seen as feminism to some, and something else to others. See for us in Mumbai, girls wear shorts and its pretty normal for us. So if a guy objects to a girl (his mother/sister/friend/fiancee/relative) wearing it here, its for her to handle it. Every situation is in context to ones own set up and surroundings.

he had a problem when he realized that probably Asmara's male friends were drunk in the late night party where she was alone with them, and not that she was literally with boys.

Zaroon knows that how such parties work, how such environment is not something that can be safe.

I suppose he didn't think about that when he was going out with girls or going to places where guys brought their girlfriends. of course, he said he was a guy and he could go to such places. I think that if a place is not good enough for a girl to go to, guys should also stay away. We all know what happens there!😆

Originally posted by: nevah_mind

it came across as an issue to me too. One that has been continuously given importance to keep in mind through the serial to distinguish between good/acceptable and otherwise.

Please tell me what was Asmara wearing to college that Zaroon got so upset? that it would "invite" comments? (sorry, but this mindset really gets me, but ignore that part)

Other than wearing bright colors which can possible be contrasts that people might have opinions on, what was wrong in them?😆

Kindly educate, since I saw normal college clothes and nothing bad in them. What did catch my attention was total lack of relevance in the conversation😆

(e.g. Asmara saying that Zaroon"sab ke samne said all those things. umm, it was only Osama. And he was a good friend, so doesn't really fall in the "sab ke samne" category.😆)

Originally posted by: Perfect100

What was Asmara wearing to college that zaroon got so upset ?
Well i think he was not interested in her so he wanted a way to come out from this relationship 🤣 🤣
Jokes apart. He was aware from Asmara's life style right from the beginning but he agreed for this relationship and then all of a sudden he started fighting with her on issue of cloths and uploading pics on facebook. These things were not new for him, So it's not Asmara who have changed but Zaroon and that too all of a sudden. Yes he had a issue of late night party's but he never had a issue with Asmara's cloths, issue of uploading pics on facebook by her etc. So i feel the reasons of their split were stupid. These small things can easily sort out in any relationship but then they presented zaroon's character with a mindset of 'Either my way or a highway'. And that was completely out of the place.

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

the split was not stupid, i think there is a certain level of difference when a couple is in a relationship as girlfriend and boyfriend and when they are officially engaged. People do change , and in case of Zaroon and Asmara both have changed. Asmara was the girl who would eat up his head for engaging her, and later after the engagement she loses her basic sense of responsiblity to not even inform her fiancee and just go to another country with the group of boys whom probably her fiancee does not like. Here the problem was not Zaroon's. he was seeing how sara had lost her path in her marriage with farhan, he did not want to repeat the same thing with his and asmara's relationship and tried to make Asmara realize the basic values and responsiblities that an engaged/married girl must follow, till that time asmara was his fiancee and it was irresponsible of her to not allow him to know about her whereabouts.

And he never fought with her about her clothes, it was just that one incident in the university when osama made fun of her, and knowing Zaroon , he was supposed to react.