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Posted: 11 years ago
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My point is that disrobing or insulting a woman is wrong ... be it a slave or daasi or kulvadhu or queen ...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn

My point is that disrobing or insulting a woman is wrong ... be it a slave or daasi or kulvadhu or queen ...





Absolutely...n i agree without any conditions. 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn

My point is that disrobing or insulting a woman is wrong ... be it a slave or daasi or kulvadhu or queen ...



Excellent point and I wonder what the author of epic was projecting about the then era. The story is very thought provoking and that is why probably it survived generations. Even after ages we are debating incidents, wonder how many changes would have happened in society over generations. Sometimes when you bring out bad point so that they are debated helps society and I guess that was the purpose of the story. Just my humble opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I really don't understand the character of Yudi. Neither do I have respect for that man. Who stakes their brothers in a game? And to know that he was never reprimanded for his behavior doesn't make sense to me. He is the one Pandava who I dislike a lot. And he got to go to heaven? What about others?
And yes, no woman, doesn't matter dasi or not, should be treated like how draupadi was in that sabha that day.

It is not just Dury who is at fault that day. Yudi had a big role too.

Sickening to know that thousands of years ago too, especially at a time when women were looked upon as Devis, something like this happened. Present day is no different, in fact even worse!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Agree with what you said most of the people weren't bothered about treatment being meted out to a woman only if she was a daasi or not

Regarding Yudhishtir i have come to a conclusion that whatever Yudi did at that time in dyut sabha was not considered adharma or a sin by dwapar yug standard or by ved vyas's standards

why

1)Krsihna ji never rebukes Yudhishtir for his staking

2)Despite him staking his wife and brother's his chariot is always in the Air indicating his purity

3)He is the only panadav who gets to go to heaven in his human form

Hence as per dwapar Yug standards or ved vyas whatever yudi did wasn't wrong

not that i agree with it for me its wrong and i will criticize yudi for it but just in support of your analysis that most of what happened in that sabha was on or right as per dawapar yug standards including what yudi did which explains why yudhishtir in the epic never gets rebuked for this staking(except for drauapdi and bhima)


I find one more interesting character King Harishchandra who sell his wife and son in open market just to keep his promise which he made in the dream of Vishwamitra. He got the title of Satyavadi and Yudi got the title of Dharmaraj.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harishchandra

If we consider yudi gambling was due to his promise then from dharma point of view it seems to be right.

"Yudhishthira said,--'Summoned, I do not withdraw. This is my established vow.


Note- Personally I dont think gambling is a right thing and staking your wife is stupidity.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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yudhisthir during swargarohan commented upon draupadi's death that she died because she loved arjun more than other husbands...i feel thats a horrible and not correct..

when compared to yudhisthir's sins, this sin of draupadi is nothing ..still on yudi got to go to swarg...

what i feel is due to the male dominated society, many alterations were made to original verses written by vyasa...

as there are so many loopholes in the epic..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine

yudhisthir during swargarohan commented upon draupadi's death that she died because she loved arjun more than other husbands...i feel thats a horrible and not correct..

when compared to yudhisthir's sins, this sin of draupadi is nothing ..still on yudi got to go to swarg...

what i feel is due to the male dominated society, many alterations were made to original verses written by vyasa...

as there are so many loopholes in the epic..


I already dislike Yudi. You are making it even worse 😆

Btw, do the original bhoj patras on which the vedas/mahabharata was written still exist? If not, then yeah...every translation of the original is going to be different based on the interpretation made by the author who is doing the translation. So lot of what we read may not be the complete truth and may have been skewed in favour of one side or the other based on how the author interpreted the original texts.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: liberiangirl


I already dislike Yudi. You are making it even worse 😆

Btw, do the original bhoj patras on which the vedas/mahabharata was written still exist? If not, then yeah...every translation of the original is going to be different based on the interpretation made by the author who is doing the translation. So lot of what we read may not be the complete truth and may have been skewed in favour of one side or the other based on how the author interpreted the original texts.

No, there are no 'original text' for the Mahabaratha or Ramayana. These epics have been passed down over generations orally, until writing became mainstream.

Until the 4th century BC, writing wasn't common. Writing was usually done by people in trade who maintained written documents or by people who looked at it as an art form (calligraphy). It was only during the centuries that followed that people began writing down many of these orally passed on knowledge and teachings. This is the main reason why we dont have any original text for these epics.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine


as there are so many loopholes in the epic..


I like this point... With so many loopholes and version of story, there is no way to figure which is correct and who the hell know that yudi went to swarag or nark. So no worries, enjoy life...I believe in Jindagi na melagi dobara... :-)

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