Mughal Women

Mughal Women stayed in strict Parda except Nurjahan. Plus Mughal women fought with mind instead of directly participating in battles. And they were not like rajputanis. They never tried to kill themselves. It was just not their cup of tea. Muslim royal women always tried every other tactic to defeat their enemies but never fought or tried to take poison. They followed if you can't beat them befriend them. Sorry but mughal women were way different than rajputanis in virtues and tacts. they were more like mind players than fighters.

Don't confuse Mughal/Timurid women with Arabs. Mughal women did fight in wars and accompanied their husbands to war too.

the show is not at all following history as it is

Two words, Natkiya Rupantar 😆

Um..we can't expect everything to be played out word by word according to history, can we? It would be so boring then.

Originally posted by: AntaresVega

Um..we can't expect everything to be played out word by word according to history, can we? It would be so boring then.

Mughal women never fought any battles. Nur jahan was an exception but she did not take part directly. She was the plotter. Mughal ladies were plotters not fighters. No muslim woman ever took part in wars directly except Raziya Sultan and that was also due to liberalism of her father.

Originally posted by: HaremSultan

Mughal Women stayed in strict Parda except Nurjahan. Plus Mughal women fought with mind instead of directly participating in battles. And they were not like rajputanis. They never tried to kill themselves. It was just not their cup of tea. Muslim royal women always tried every other tactic to defeat their enemies but never fought or tried to take poison. They followed if you can't beat them befriend them. Sorry but mughal women were way different than rajputanis in virtues and tacts. they were more like mind players than fighters.

all mughal womens stayed in stricked pardha including Nur Jahan she was not any exception
a english traveller Sir Thomas Roe went Hindustan for trading said in his chronicles that he felt the power of this lady(Nur Jahan) but was unable to see her ever as mughal being muslims there wives were in strick pardaa.Thomas Roe spent many years in Hindustan some years with Nur Jahan brother Asaf Khan he also got written orders from Empress Nur Jahan
but yes you can say in Nur Jahan case parda was not a hurdle to stop her putting her share in Mughal politics, economics,art ,architecture, literature ,travel & gardening .Nur Jahan is the first & only Mughal empress who participated directly into a battle she commanded a army to rescue her husband Empress Jahangir when the emperor is taken into captivity by one of the court noble & Jahangir own childhood friend Mahabat Khan.

i don't know how could you appriciate self killing there are cases where hindu womens are druged & forced to perform Sati & if we think logicaly same happen with the Jauher case i don't think every hindu women perform Jauher willingly.
i too never read so far mughal womens practiced self killing because on religious bases
'' Islam strickly condemn self killing'' & as per history such act not performed by Mughal womens because mostly the Mughal Emperors were victorious in the battle field.The enemy never reached to Mughal harem if you are thinking what they showed in JA serial except during the battle of Sher Shah Suri & Emperor Humayun when some Mughal womens were taken into captivity by Sher Shah Suri army but later Sher Shah Suri sent them back with respect.

you said They followed if you can't beat them befriend them. sorry this is followed by Raja Bharmal & later followed by other Rajas making marrige alliances with Emperor Akbar.
thats why Jodha Bai is one of my favorite historical character she sacrificed her life to save her homeland & brothers but GOD was kind she won her husband & in laws love & respect.

Mughal womens were not any less then Rajputanis.i don't know why are you comparing Mughlanis with Rajputanis both have there own amazing & rich history.

i'm not a Mughal nor a Rajput & not favouring anyone but i found your post so baised so i made my point clear what i read as per history.

Originally posted by: ann2012

Don't confuse Mughal/Timurid women with Arabs. Mughal women did fight in wars and accompanied their husbands to war too.

I wish Abhay was here to clear misconceptions.

Trimuds were Turks & speak turkish later adopted Persian Although Arabic and Turkish stem from entirely different language families. Arabic has had great influence on Turkish & we can find Arabic & Persian culture influence on Trimuds culture too.
its a misconception about Arab womens not fought in war or not involved in Politics. Actualy it was Arab empires i-e Umayyad Caliphate ,Abbasid Caliphate etc who set a ruling structure example which is later followed by mostly Muslim Empires.
Arabs have there own history about womens warriors & Queens
actually you can divide it in to 2 groups Pre Islamic & Post Islamic.
here i'm listing some of the Arab womens they were warriors, commanders,Queens,buisness womens

Khawlah bint al-Azwar ... a young arab warrior women sister of a powerful commander Zarrar. in 636 AD Battle of Yarmouk she fought against Bazantine she was wounded during a fight with a Greek soldier . Khawla fought in many battles that took place in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine. 634 Battle of Saniyat al Uqab Zarrar was caught by Bazantine soilders she fought in disguise as a men wearing armour & rescued her brother. The Romans eventually lost the battle and fled.Battle of Ajnadin, Khawla's spear broke, she was caught & imprisoned but she decided that to die is more honorable than living in disgrace.she encouraged other muslim women prisoners to fight they took the tents' poles and pegs and attacked the Roman guards.Khawlah killed 5 Roman soilders including the one who tried to rape her.
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Hazrat Ayesha need no introduction a well know respected figure in Arab & Muslim world
wife of Muhammd(P.B.U.H) commanded a army in the Battle of Jamal

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Azdah bint Al-Harith bin Kaldah She participated in the battle by the Al-Mughrab led by Mughirah bin Shu'bah when the people of Maisan had put together an army to challenge the Muslims. Maisan is located in Iraq and located between Basra and Wasit.
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Princess Dhat al-Himma a leader and Combattant, played a most important role in defending the state or the Abbasid
caliphate during its early days fought & defeated Byzantine Roman empire.
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Hind al-Hunnud she participated in the Battle of Badr against muslims she also commanded a guerrilla war against muslims but defeated & later converted to Islam.
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Nusaybah Bint Ka'ab a respected women warrior in Arab world. In the battle of Uhud.
she was working with the medical team she was bringing water to the thirsty fighters and tending the wounded but when the muslims army were on the edge of defeat Nusaybah went forward, with her sword & bow in her hand & joined army.she fought in many battles Aqabah, Al-Hudaybiyah, Khaybar & Hunayn including Al-Yamamah where she fought brilliantly and received eleven wounds as well as losing her hand.
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Arwa al-Sulayhi the queen from Sulayhid Dynasty It was under her rule that Yemen broke itself from the yoke of the Fatimid Caliphate and established its independence. She had the privillage that her name is read in Khutba's instead of her husband who was the King.
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Umm Hakim in Battle of Marj al-Saffar single-handedly dispatched seven Byzantine soldiers.
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Maviya al-Hawari Queen of the Tanukh Reign 375-425 she was an Christian Arab warrior queen defeated Roman army.
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Arabian queen Al Khaizuran wife al-Mahdi, 3rd Abbasid caliph of Baghdad (Iraq) an important political figure
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Queen Zenobia of Palmyra queen of the Roman colony of Palmyra, in present-day Arab country Syria, from 267 or 268 to 272. She conquered several of Rome's eastern provinces before she was subjugated by the emperor Aurelian (ruled 270-275).
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Princess Zubaidah bint Ja'far Abbasid princesses wife of Harun ul Rashid improved trade routes & mediated a peaceful settelment of the civil conflict following Harun al Rashid death
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Asma bint Shihab al-Sulayhiyya queen of Yemen
Sayyida Hurra: The Isma'ili Sulayhid Queen of Yemen
Queen Samsi (Shamsi) of Arabia (she rebelled against Assyrian King)
they played important political roles during there time.

i hope i cleared some misconseptions & provided some info about Arab womens
coming back to Trimud Princess if we examine details in Babur Namah, Humayun Namah, Tuzk-i-Jahangiri, we shall find the Timuride women wearing arms, riding horses, going on hunting excursions, killing lions, playing polo, and practising with bows and arrows. They learnt all the technicalities of soldiering and we learn from the Tuzk-i-Baburi that Babur's conquests of Kabul, Samarciand, and Farghana owed much to women.
so logicaly its obvious that it was a rule that Trimud Princess along with Princes learnt the basic soilder techniques .