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Posted: 11 years ago
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😛 Found it strange in the forum ... ruled by Kauravas 😉
You post anything ... just anything TRUE but not in favor of Karna and OMG ... post is deleted ...
All others have the right to post POV's 😛😛😛😛😛 with dream stories like Karna lost his kavach kundal before Viraat war ... People throwing Axe/ waxe etc etc simultaneously towards Bheeshma ... those stay ... but Karna ke nam pe kuch sach bhi bolo ... post deleted!!!! Ausa kysa rule hein ...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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'Dream stories' that are included in the most prominent translation i.e KMG.

It is mentioned in KMG that Karna lost his Kavach and Kundal before Virat Yudha, He lost it on the 12th Year of the Pandava exile. Below is the citation of Indra approaching and asking Karna.

"..Vaisampayana said, "And when the king of the celestials presented himself in the guise of a Brahmana, beholding him, Kama said, 'Welcome!' And not knowing his intention, Adhiratha's son addressed the Brahmana, saying, 'Of a necklace of gold, and beauteous damsels, and villages with plenty of kine, which shall I give thee?' Thereupon the Brahmana replied, 'I ask thee not to give me either a necklace of gold, or fair damsels, or any other agreeable object. To those do thou give them that ask for them. If, O sinless one, thou art sincere in thy vow, then wilt thou, cutting off (from thy person) this coat of mail born with thy body, and these ear-rings also, bestow them on me! I desire, O chastiser of foes, that thou mayst speedily give me these; for, this one gain of mine will be considered as superior to every other gain!.."


Bhishma was attacked by several Pandava warriors and Pandavas themselves. Below is the citation.

"..Sanjaya said, "Thus all the Pandavas, placing Sikhandin before them pierced Bhishma in that battle repeatedly surrounding him on all sides. And all the Srinjayas, uniting together, struck him with dreadful Sataghnis, and spiked maces, and battle-axes, and mallets. and short thick clubs, and bearded darts, and other missiles, and arrows furnished with golden wing, and darts and lances and kampanas; and with long shafts, and arrows furnished with heads shaped like the calf-tooth, and rockets. Thus afflicted by many, his coat of mail was pierced everywhere.."


But then again, this thread will be closed soon ( reported it already ), then why am I bothering to provide citations?, because I think the TM needs to understand that some things are not ' Dream stories ', they are nothing but rock solid facts.
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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READ THE WHOLE BOOK PROPERLY
My notes from KMG (real one - Bhishma Parva)
BHISHMA PARVA SECTION CIII

the son of Arjuna began to grind thy troops in battle, like a juice-blind prince of wild elephants agitating a lake overgrown with lotus.[465] Then Bhishma the

son of Santanu, beholding his troops routed, covered Subhadra's son with a thick shower of arrows.

Then many mighty car-warriors of the Dhartarashtra army, standing in a ring round that single hero, began to strike him forcibly with their shafts. That hero then, who resembled his sire in prowess and who was equal to Vasudeva in valour and might, - that foremost of all wielders of weapons, - achieved diverse feats in that battle that were worthy of both his sire and maternal uncle. Then the heroic Dhananjaya, excited with wrath and desirous of rescuing his son, arrived at the spot where the latter was slaughtering thy troops as he came along. And similarly, O king, thy sire Devavrata in that battle approached Partha like Rahu approaching the sun.[466] Then thy sons, O monarch, supported by cars, elephants, and steeds, surrounded Bhishma in that battle and protected him from every side. And so also the Pandavas, O king, clad in mail and surrounding Dhananjaya, engaged in fierce battle, O bull of Bharata's race.

and also: Those mighty shafts, whetted on stone and furnished with golden wings, which the great car-warrior Sikhandin shot, quickly penetrated
into Bhishma's body. Then the diadem-decked (Arjuna), excited with wrath, and placing Sikhandin ahead rushed at Bhishma and cut off the latter's bow. Thereupon mighty car-warriors, seven in
number, viz., Drona and Kritavarman, and Jayadratha the ruler of the Sindhus, and Bhurisravas, and Sala, and Salya, and Bhagadatta could not brook that act of Arjuna. Inflamed with rage, they rushed
at him. Indeed, those mighty car-warriors, invoking into existence celestial weapons, fell with great wrath upon that son of Pandu, and covered him with their arrows. And as they rushed towards Phalguni's
car, the noise made by them was heard to resemble that made by the ocean itself when it swelleth in rage at the end of the Yuga, Kill, Bring up (our forces), Take, Pierce, Cut off, this was
the furious uproar heard about Phalguni's car. Hearing that furious uproar, the mighty car-warriors of the Pandava army rushed forward, O bull of Bharata's race, for protecting Arjuna. They were Satyaki, and Bhimasena, and Dhrishtadyumna of Prishata's race, and both Virata and Drupada, and the Rakshasa Ghatotkacha, and the wrathful Abhimanyu. These seven, inflamed with rage, and armed with excellent bows, rushed with great speed. And the battle that took place between these
and the Kaurava warriors was fierce, making the hair stand on end, and resembling O chief of the Bharatas, the battle of the gods with the Danavas. Sikhandin, however, that foremost of carwarriors, protected in the battle by the diadem-decked (Arjuna), pierced Bhishma, in that encounter, with ten shafts after the latter's bow had been cut off. And he struck Bhishma's charioteer with other shafts, and cut off the latter's standard with one shaft. Then the son of Ganga took up another bow that was tougher. That even was cut off by Phalguni with three sharp shafts. Indeed, that chastiser of foes, viz., Arjuna, who was capable of drawing the bow with even his left hand, excited with rage,
one after another, cut off all the bows that Bhishma took up. Then Bhishma, whose bows were thus cut off, excited with rage, and licking the corners of his mouth, took up a dart that was capable of
riving a hill. In rage he hurled it at Phalguni's car. Beholding its course towards him like the blazing bolt of heaven, the delighter of the Pandavas fixed five sharp broad-headed arrows (on his bowstring).
And with those five arrows, O chief of the Bharatas, the angry Arjuna cut off into five fragments that dart hurled from Bhishma's arms. Thus cut off by the angry Arjuna, that dart then fell down like a flash of lightning separated from a mass of clouds. Beholding his dart cut off, Bhishma became filled with rage. That hero, that subjugator of hostile cities, then began to reflect. And he said unto himself, 'With only a single bow I could slay all the Pandavas, if the mighty Vishnu himself
had not been their protector. For two reasons, however, I will not fight with the Pandavas, viz.,their unslayableness, and the femininity of Sikhandin. Formerly, when my sire wedded Kali, he
pleased (with me) gave me two boons, viz., that I should be incapable of being slain in battle, and that my death should depend on my own choice. I should, however, now wish my own death, this being the proper hour.'
THIS WAS HOW BHEESHMA CHOOSE HIS FATE AND DEATH. READ THE WHOLE BOOK NOT ONLY THE SECTION YOU CAN TWEAK AND TWIST THE STORY. BHEESHMA HAD NO EFFECT FROM ALL THE SHAFTS ETC. THROWN AT HIM AS THAT WAS HIS BOON, BUT HE WAS ALSO PART OF GROUP ATTACK TO ABHIMANYU EARLIER WHEN ABHIMANYU WAS SAVED BY ARJUN.
BUT YOU COMPLAIN AND ADMIN LISTEN TO CLOSE ANY POST YOU DON'T LIKE. THIS IS A FORUM AND EVERYONE'S POV NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH SAME RIGHT. NOT ANYONES PERSONAL PROPERTY.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well I have read your comments which got deleted. Your post was not only a POV or viewpoint. You called basically all of those people who differ from your view having a mental blockage.
I may have any view or either do any forum member- This kind of personal bashing is not allowed or atleast I cant tolerate this. Ofcourse whatever may be your view, stick to that who asked you to change it. But give some respect to other views and not degrade them in this manner.
Edited by riti4u - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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What is here in this post that I was threatened this post to be closed/ deleted? If people post WRONG facts stating it's from KMG and that's how BHEESHMA died ... those can stay and objecting people degrading death of great warrior Abhimanyu with so many wrong words stay !!!! It was a fair war, he died only because he was not capable kind of statement really hurt my sentiment and I was sad to see people can think this way also.
What was wrong in those posts? All event's I mentioned are somehow supported as CORRECT by someone or others including many leaders ... I just gave some such examples.
I don't post normally as this is full biased forum and everywhere it's mentioned. But I was not able to take the way Abhimanyu's death was insulted and degraded. Hence I posted. DO NOT BASH A LEGEND KID LIKE ABHIMANYU. RESPECT HIS SKILL AND BRAVERY
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Reference- Kmg Vana Parva SECTION CCLXLVIII

Vaisampayana said, "As thou askest me, O tiger among kings, I will relate that history unto thee! Do thou listen to my words, O best of the Bharatas! After twelve years (of their exile) had passed away and the thirteenth year had set in, Sakra, ever friendly to the sons of Pandu, resolved to beg of Karna (his earrings).


If you are referring any other book that prove that Karns Kavach Kundal was taken after Viraat war, mention it.

We are here to increase our knowledge, not to spread dream stories

Edited by Neutral2 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bobbiswas

What is here in this post that I was threatened this post to be closed/ deleted? If people post WRONG facts stating it's from KMG and that's how BHEESHMA died ... those can stay and objecting people degrading death of great warrior Abhimanyu with so many wrong words stay !!!! It was a fair war, he died only because he was not capable kind of statement really hurt my sentiment and I was sad to see people can think this way also.

What was wrong in those posts? All event's I mentioned are somehow supported as CORRECT by someone or others including many leaders ... I just gave some such examples.
I don't post normally as this is full biased forum and everywhere it's mentioned. But I was not able to take the way Abhimanyu's death was insulted and degraded. Hence I posted. DO NOT BASH A LEGEND KID LIKE ABHIMANYU. RESPECT HIS SKILL AND BRAVERY

Noone insulted Abhimanyu's death and degraded it. Why are you taking it so extreme in this way. Almost everyone who posted this agreed to the fact that Abhimanyu fought a brave battle and in whole of it- battle was unfair. They were discussing aspects and part of battle which seemed fair with few. Topic got deviated from what was its motive. Anyways I can understand that your sentiments were hurt but you should also understand that you hurt quite a few sentiments with your post on that by calling names to Karna and those who love him . People can be attached with Karna in way that you are attached with Abhimanyu.
And Everyone respects Abhimanyu here-there is no question about it.
Edited by riti4u - 11 years ago

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