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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
If people are using word such as hate and stupid it it bashing. It is an opinion to say i am disappointed or hut but I don't think Raman deserves such strong words to express an opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: sai14

Thank you so much for making this topic. There is so much hatred towards Raman that it does not even make sense. Raman has disappointed me some times during the track but my love for him has grown because he is disappointed me as I can see how much tormented he is to be doing what he is doing. This is the same guy that did not think twice before having Ishu apologize to Adi before. Look at how torn he is now. He has grown up as a character. He was never perfect and is not perfect. I don't understand how people are not able to see the guilt in his face. It is so easy for everyone to say that is what he should be doing but when you are in that situation you never know what you will be doing.

Raman is not being stupid or dumb. He is doing this for his son and why are people finding fault for him having blind love over his son. It is his son his blood. I also believe that Raman is placed in hard situation because he does not know how Ishita feels. We know that Ishita is in love with him and hence she is upset that he hung out with Shagun and he hid things from her. But according to Raman Ishita is a friend. he does not know she loves her and he has not realized that he loves her. So it's very unfair to say he has hurt Ishita because of the hurt she is going through because Raman does not know the type of hurt that she is going through. Even Ishita herself has said yesterday that it's ok for Raman to hang out with Shagun or go to picnic with Adi because it's his son and she was the one that convinced Ruhi. So why is Raman still being blamed when even Ishita herself said it is ok.


I don't think anyone is questioning his love for son. Of course father will love his son and at times try to hide mistakes. But to what extent is the question?
Also i doubt it's only what Ishita feel that frustrated ppl, rather his actions. Fact is right now he is shown engaging in criminal activities, whatever be - he's helping Shagun and Shagun only. Speaking abt real life, yes ppl do such things in real life and they end up alone or in prison !

Saying he is feeling guilty is not enough. So next if Shagun comes back and says I feel so guilty abt what I did to you please forgive me, should Raman says sure come aboard? Or next Adi will ask Raman to go kill someone should he do it and later say I feel guilty.

Matter is not just abt Ishra rather how Raman himself is regressing. Yes he's not perfect hero but don't ppl want to see a hero who slowly but surely overcomes his weakness, fear, not just do right thing when it's convenient for him? I mean Raman himself has said whatever he is doing is wrong which is fact so why not accept it. Just accepting he's wrong also is not enough, how to correct him.

Again criticism to character doesn't mean ppl don't like actor. KP is doing good job. Also I don't mean to start any sort of fight here or argument of right or wrong. I believe ppl are frustrated because they want to see the hero win, come as victorious and happy, not miserable, in pain, lonely or dejected !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53
There is a bit of misunderstanding here it is not Nafrat ...I would call it Concern for Raman.😭
It is because we like his character so much that we are disturbed that he is making an ass out of himself when he allows Adi and Shagun to manipulate him.
we have seen earlier that he felt sorry after giving in to unreasonable demands of his son.. then he had to make dosa and all that..šŸ˜•
But i have a feeling that he is doing all this in order to get to the bottom of amma's accident..find the real culprit and have him punished...😔
ONLY the fact that he is having the CCTV footage tampered with is contradicting my view...By the way he is committing a crime himself when he tampers with evidence, his lawyer should TELL him that!😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
@Sai, doesn't friends have trust b/w them? A genuine friendship can never grow if no trust is there. So, does that mean Raman thinks Ishita as a friend only for his own interest, cos she is taking care of Ruhi, cos she is the babysitter of Ruhi? Only this can be the reason of his belief that Ishita isn't hurt or she can digest every mistake he does. Is Raman so dumb that he can't understand what type of pain Ishita is suffering? He himself knows the promise of him to Ishita to trust her in Ruhi related every matter. So, isn't he understanding that he broke that promise and her trust, that's why she is hurt, forget about love thing? I can't blame him if he doesn't know about Ishita's feelings. And, BTW, Ishita too is not fully in love with him. She has considered him as the best friend...and since pyar dosti hain, she just stepped in the love area, but dint walk yet. Her pain is about the trust Raman broke. Raman himself knows this. Doing mistakes unknowingly should be forgiven after some little punishment. But mistakes done knowingly...would you forgive someone like this easily?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: _Divya_

kaun kambhakt hai jo Raman se nafrat karta hai? 😲😔

hum toh bas usse pyaar karte hai, bhottt sara pyaar! 😳 ā¤ļø šŸ¤—


n agar koi uske lie bura bol bhi raha hai toh isilie coz situations aisi hai.. n v cant do anything!!

aur waise bhi gussa bhi ussi se karte hai naa jisse pyaar ho! ā˜ŗļø jo aapka apna ho 😳




ya ryt...iss gusse mein bhi pyaar chupa hua hai!!!😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: jay_bpm


I don't think anyone is questioning his love for son. Of course father will love his son and at times try to hide mistakes. But to what extent is the question?
Also i doubt it's only what Ishita feel that frustrated ppl, rather his actions. Fact is right now he is shown engaging in criminal activities, whatever be - he's helping Shagun and Shagun only. Speaking abt real life, yes ppl do such things in real life and they end up alone or in prison !

Saying he is feeling guilty is not enough. So next if Shagun comes back and says I feel so guilty abt what I did to you please forgive me, should Raman says sure come aboard? Or next Adi will ask Raman to go kill someone should he do it and later say I feel guilty.

Matter is not just abt Ishra rather how Raman himself is regressing. Yes he's not perfect hero but don't ppl want to see a hero who slowly but surely overcomes his weakness, fear, not just do right thing when it's convenient for him? I mean Raman himself has said whatever he is doing is wrong which is fact so why not accept it. Just accepting he's wrong also is not enough, how to correct him.

Again criticism to character doesn't mean ppl don't like actor. KP is doing good job. Also I don't mean to start any sort of fight here or argument of right or wrong. I believe ppl are frustrated because they want to see the hero win, come as victorious and happy, not miserable, in pain, lonely or dejected !


Who are we to tell Raman to what extent can he love his son? He yearns for his son, his son was snatched away from him and his son's mind was polluted with negative information against his dad. The longing he has to spend time with his son be there for him. who are we to tell him to what extent. Raman does not yet know that Adi did the accident. We cannot judge him based on something he does not know. He is not helping Shagun. He is being selfish so that his son does not end up in a foster care when his mom goes to jail as his son does not want to stay with his dad. Is it wrong to be selfish for your son? Another thing - Raman is located in India and i think we all know how "perfect" Indian judicial system is. If you have money you can get away with murder so what is wrong with Raman taking advantage of the situation so that his son does not end up in foster care. He is not supporting Shagun for doing the accident. He is protecting his son. Not all people in India that do accidents end up in prison. Did he have a discussion with Adi telling him that we your mom did was absoultely correct? he did not.

I don't think any of us are saying what Raman doing is correct. What we are saying is that Raman should not be hated or bashed upon because of the dilemma he is in. You know, throughout this whole track I do not connect with Ishita. I don't understand her pain because she is not yet aware that Shagun did the accident. So i do not understand her suffering over the fact that Raman hid things from her when there was never such kind of relationship between them. But i am not going to express my displeasure with Ishita because in the situation that she is in she feels correct. Same goes to Raman- in the situation that he is in he is doing what he needs to do to protect his son.

This is not about Shagun. Raman will never forgive Shagun nor do we see him attempting to forgive Shagun. Just because Raman is being cordial with Shagun in dealing with this matter does not mean that he forgave her.

Hero's dont have to be perfect. We have too many perfect heroes out there. What makes Raman so relatable is he is your every day guy. He makes mistakes that we all do. Feeling miserable, being in pain, lonely or dejected- that is what a normal human being is and that is what Raman is. Why is there a need for Raman to succeed and win in each episode or each track? Why can't we be on his side when he is going through bad times and walk this journey with him.

I am also not trying to start a fight or argument here but I don't know what KP has do with this or why KP is being brought up. We are talking about Raman here and KP is irrelevant to this discussion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
BTW, a minor can't be punished in jail, it's his/her guardians to be punished, if someone has to. And, Raman doesn't know that...it's hard to digest. So, in a sense, isn't he protecting the guardian of Adi, Shagun? Well, that's my POV. Anyone can think different from this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: _Divya_

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">kaun kambhakt hai jo Raman se nafrat karta hai? 😲😔

<font color="#CC0066">hum toh bas usse pyaar karte hai, bhottt sara pyaar! 😳 ā¤ļø šŸ¤—</font>


n agar koi uske lie bura bol bhi raha hai toh isilie coz situations aisi hai.. n v cant do anything!!

aur waise bhi gussa bhi ussi se karte hai naa jisse pyaar ho! ā˜ŗļø jo aapka apna ho 😳



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let's wait
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: sai14


Who are we to tell Raman to what extent can he love his son? He yearns for his son, his son was snatched away from him and his son's mind was polluted with negative information against his dad. The longing he has to spend time with his son be there for him. who are we to tell him to what extent. Raman does not yet know that Adi did the accident. We cannot judge him based on something he does not know. He is not helping Shagun. He is being selfish so that his son does not end up in a foster care when his mom goes to jail as his son does not want to stay with his dad. Is it wrong to be selfish for your son? Another thing - Raman is located in India and i think we all know how "perfect" Indian judicial system is. If you have money you can get away with murder so what is wrong with Raman taking advantage of the situation so that his son does not end up in foster care. He is not supporting Shagun for doing the accident. He is protecting his son. Not all people in India that do accidents end up in prison. Did he have a discussion with Adi telling him that we your mom did was absoultely correct? he did not.

I don't think any of us are saying what Raman doing is correct. What we are saying is that Raman should not be hated or bashed upon because of the dilemma he is in. You know, throughout this whole track I do not connect with Ishita. I don't understand her pain because she is not yet aware that Shagun did the accident. So i do not understand her suffering over the fact that Raman hid things from her when there was never such kind of relationship between them. But i am not going to express my displeasure with Ishita because in the situation that she is in she feels correct. Same goes to Raman- in the situation that he is in he is doing what he needs to do to protect his son.

This is not about Shagun. Raman will never forgive Shagun nor do we see him attempting to forgive Shagun. Just because Raman is being cordial with Shagun in dealing with this matter does not mean that he forgave her.

Hero's dont have to be perfect. We have too many perfect heroes out there. What makes Raman so relatable is he is your every day guy. He makes mistakes that we all do. Feeling miserable, being in pain, lonely or dejected- that is what a normal human being is and that is what Raman is. Why is there a need for Raman to succeed and win in each episode or each track? Why can't we be on his side when he is going through bad times and walk this journey with him.

I am also not trying to start a fight or argument here but I don't know what KP has do with this or why KP is being brought up. We are talking about Raman here and KP is irrelevant to this discussion.

Just how you are able to see Raman's pov others are not. The way you can't connect with Ishita, well others have strong emotion. Where selfish is an emotion, well as viewers others have right to have emotion where they think Raman is acting dumb or extent say they hate him. It's their individual choice. If ppl can hate Shagun for acting selfish, they can hate Raman too.
Shagun is also very much like real ppl, in real life ppl do that.

As for Ishita's feeling, we just had enough episodes where both of them have shown developing feelings. They had mature discussion of not hiding any matter be it for Adi and deal together. So she sure has her feelings.

Raman may think he's doing it all for Adi, but then his actions are only benefiting Shagun only. He didn't have talk with Adi his mother did is correct but he said he'll protect her.

Where as you don't mind seeing hero who losess, being left alone, dejected and whatnot; others don't want hero to remain miserable. they want to see Raman learn from mistakes and move forward. It's matter of opinion and in process they say hate, well their opinion.

Only reason I clarified abt KP is from little experience on forum have seen ppl may misinterpret character & actor. So simply wanted to avoid that.

I'll prefer ending this by saying we all have different expectations from show. Some like drama, others simply love, some like solely acting, others pain or whatever. End of the day, everyone is entitled to feel what they want abt a character, be hate, love, respect or whatever !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#60
I think the track will end before our debate ends on Raman! 😊 The specialty of Raman's character is that this lead character is even giving us the chance to be hurt coz of him - He is not a typical hero - We love him and we are disappointed with him as well. That is where Raman is close to reality and not the stereotype! :) OK, time for the episode! ;)

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