Thoughts on AD-Bani relationship Part-II

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Posted: 18 years ago
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First of all an acknowledgement to Bavie for her excellent post "Mea Culpa". Beautiful post and thread and few points I wanted to take up from there without hijacking her thread. Two points mainly, on AD revealing the whole truth to Bani. Second Abha's point about Bani's revenge.

On AD revealing the truth to Bani

Several points have been made against AD revealing the truth to Bani. First, that he does not know the truth. Second, he does not owe her the truth. Third what truth shall he tell her that JW was a coward who allowed himself to be blackmailed and all that.

Lets examine the first proposition. That he does not know the whole truth and that we have no proof that he knows anything. Does that sound convincing at all? The man is brilliant and meticulous. For the last 20 years, he has done nothing but plot and plan revenge against JW, he has made himself strong financially and physically and deadened himself emotionally for that. Don't u think that such a man wud know the Walias inside out, the finer details to the last '"t". U can bet that he wud even know what JW had for breakfast today morning. I hope if not anyone else, at least Adbhoot's fans wud not demean Superhero by claiming that he does not know anything.

Coming to the second point, till now since Bani is only his shastra he is perhaps justified. But now that he has agreed to marry her and will be her hubby, he is now under an obligation to reveal the truth.

What should he reveal if intends to get married?

Everything, however trivial it may be. Including but not limited to the following:

    Why he was in Mumbai five years back (if he was there only to take Bani away) and why he chose to protect Bani? What is his grouse against JW? Remember JW is not only her first hubby but also the father of her kids, a fact that can never be erased? The entire truth about why the Walia family betrayed her? And never bothered to punish Pia? And if in spite of knowing the whole truth, AD had concealed it from her and why?
  • That he himself had the slums razed and instigated the slumdwellers to burn down the WM knowing very well that Bani's kids live there?

Then again he must come clean on a few things on life post marriage:

Would Bani now rule his heart or wud she continue to play second fiddle to his first love?

What place if any wud Bani (and JW's) kids wud have in their married life?

Why AD should reveal the unvarnished truth to Bani?

First of all if he comes clean on everything and Bani still opts to remain with him, no cloud will overhang their married life, there will be no need to do the kind of hiding things that destroyed JB's married life. If he choses to remain silent, things will go the same way that it went for JW? Wud she not blame him for separating her from hubby and kids? Is that what we want for Bani and Adbhoot? And let's not forget the fact that he is no mean human being or a lover. He is a man who has mourned his love for 20 years and has lived for nothing but wreaking her vengeance. Wud it be fair on Adbhoot if after 20 years of suffering he had to face heartbreak again.

Of course, the truth ( a part of it at least) can be revealed by JW himself but he has kept quite out of a Selfless motive. But if Adbhoot keeps quite it wud be a purely Selfish motive. (Either revenge or love).

Then again truth can't hurt, can it? I am sure even if Bani knows the truth she will not go back to JW. She may be St. Kdbhoot's daughter but she wud have brains enuff not to desert a seaworthy Carpathia to board a sinking Titanic, she will surely choose Lord K over an ordinary mortal.šŸ˜‰

Finally, there can't be two standards. If we blame Munna for hiding the truth (PR/ONS), we cannot exonerate AD for doing the same. And if Munna can let the love of his life go, AD shud be prepared to do the same by telling the truth. In fact if anything Adbhoot shud hold himself to higher standards. Munna is a born sinner, Adbhoot is Lord K himself, the Guiding Light . šŸ˜‰

And from us viewers POV just think of the wonderful scenes we wud have post AB marriage. Bavie says "The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching scenes ever…it was filled with so much pain and tenderness..these two really do understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out, and he wants her happiness, I love how they shot this scene, the framing of the ADurga shot perfectly depicted both the characters difficult situation with AD in the background and Bani/DDG in foreground…him wanting to give her a sign that he understands her pain, sorrow-- how hard this decision must have been for her…he reluctantly places his hand on her shoulder to assure her that he is with her, that everything will be allright…that he understands….One of the best scenes of late in KS post leap." (Although my personal vote for the best KS scene EVER wud be AD in Bani's bedroom blowing air on her face). Surely we will be treated to more such beautiful scenes, if we have a marriage based on truth, openness and communication, what was sadly lacking in JB marriage.

Bani's Revenge

Bani has certainly a right to revenge against her own, her own have let her down , they have to be punished. But then don't Crime and Punishment have to have some correlation? Is framing someone and being blackmailed (by threat of a worse punishment to the victim) to frame someone the same level of crime and deserving of the same punishment?

The three witches certainly must be destroyed. But what about the rest? Bani's past responses certainly suggest that she wud want to destroy each and every one in WM.

I wud certainly not mind seeing JW completely destroyed. Not 'cos I don't love him ( I do) but I don't want his detractors to feel that he hasn't suffered enuff for his misdeeds. Don't know whether too many JB despos (barring perhaps Ash) wud feel that way. For the rest- Adi, Daadi etc I don't care a hoot. But there is someone who must not be harmed under any circumstance, it wud be a grievous, unforgivable Sin if Bani did. That is Rano, not because she is a Dixit or Bani's sister, but because she is the Yashoda of her kids. I am sure neither Bani nor her kids wud ever forgive her if Rano was hurt by Bani.

Rgds,

Priyanka

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Posted: 18 years ago
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About AD not knowing the truth. He himself ahs said multiple times about JAi's love for Bani & Pia's love for JAi. HE keeps calling Jia bechara WAlia because he knows the truth. IF he didn't why would he be affraid OF Jia talking to Bnai & telling herthe truthWhy he thinks that will harm his plan, diable his weapon thta's Bani.

So no he does know enough truth to know that Jai was trapped & he doesn't betray Bani for his love for Pia as Bani is made to believe even by AD himself.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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OK pri,
wat a way to put a post here! excellent!
your reasons make sense and at some point more convincing than what i would say
i totally agree!
sorry in monologues today coz im tired and plus i have a ff šŸ˜†
but excellent usage of sarcasm! couldn't have done it a better way
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rooj
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Come on Pri, AD is the guiding light and whatever he is doing is for Bani's own good. He is afterall her protector and will keep her from all harm. Bani is knee deep in love with him and that is why she is marrying him. AD has protected and cared for her all these years with no ulterior motive and even now it is only her best interests that is of paramount importance to him. Don't you think it is a match made in heaven. love, truth, openess, magnanimity all the marks of a true realtionship in their for AD-B.

I agree that Rano should not be part of Bani's revenge as if that happens Bani will destroy herself. There is not much left at the way they are going.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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((Bavie says that the AB scene in the garden was the most touching scene
in
KS ever Pri)))

Pri
Please quote the whole sentence...I stated that the ADurga scene was a
tender scene post leap KS...since the leap...and Pri it is one of my favorite
ADurga scenes post leap...for the emotional content, for the depth, the
tenderness, for the performances of both the characters and their
individual situations...

The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching
scenes
ever…it was filled with so much pain and tenderness..these two really do
understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's
difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out, and
he wants her happiness, I love how they shot this scene, the framing of
the ADurga shot perfectly depicted both the characters difficult situation
with AD in the background and Bani/DDG in foreground…him wanting to
give her a sign that he understands her pain, sorrow-- how hard this
decision must have been for her…he reluctantly places his hand on her
shoulder to assure her that he is with her, that everything will be
allright…that he understands….One of the best scenes of late in KS
post leap

Edited by aperture - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bavie,

I will quote the whole sentence.

(The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching scenes ever…it was filled with so much pain and tenderness..these two really do understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's
difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out, and he wants her happiness, I love how they shot this scene, the framing of the ADurga shot perfectly depicted both the characters difficult situation with AD in the background and Bani/DDG in foreground…him wanting to give her a sign that he understands her pain, sorrow-- how hard this
decision must have been for her…he reluctantly places his hand on her shoulder to assure her that he is with her, that everything will be allright…that he understands….One of the best scenes of late in KS post
leap..)

Rooj,

(but excellent usage of sarcasm!)

What makes u think that?šŸ˜•šŸ˜•šŸ˜•

Rgds,

Pri

Edited by majumdar - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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The best part of this post in my opinion is the last part where you said that the one person Bani cannot hurt is Rano. Bani, being a mother, probably wanted one thing most the entire time she was away-- someone to take care of her children and raise them up nicely. And Rano has done that wonderfully. Not only has she tatken good care of the kids, she also gave a piece of her mind to Pia at times when needed, and she has been by Jai's side and knows the problems he has had to go through...

-Pari
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

Bavie,

I will quote the whole sentence.

(The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching scenes ever…it was filled with so much pain and tenderness..these two really do understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's
difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out, and he wants her happiness, I love how they shot this scene, the framing of the ADurga shot perfectly depicted both the characters difficult situation with AD in the background and Bani/DDG in foreground…him wanting to give her a sign that he understands her pain, sorrow-- how hard this
decision must have been for her…he reluctantly places his hand on her shoulder to assure her that he is with her, that everything will be allright…that he understands….One of the best scenes of late in KS post
leap..)

Rooj,

(but excellent usage of sarcasm!)

What makes u think that?šŸ˜•šŸ˜•šŸ˜•no no not all of it yaar...just at some points...sorry i should've been clearšŸ˜†šŸ˜†

Rgds,

Pri

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Finally, there can't be two standards. If we blame Munna for hiding the truth (PR/ONS), we cannot exonerate AD for doing the same. And if Munna can let the love of his life go, AD shud be prepared to do the same by telling the truth. In fact if anything Adbhoot shud hold himself to higher standards. Munna is a born sinner, Adbhoot is Lord K himself, the Guiding Light of the Universe.

***Ofcourse there has to be double standards Pri! Because Munna makes only mistakes and can never be right, but AD is always right and he has a mission and has helped a female who had lost everything in her life, was betrayed by her family, kids were snatched away! And JW deserves much bigger punishment than this! After all the paap of separating kids from mother will never be erased, but AD has given a new name and life to Bani and have given all love and support she required!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Well pri,
i read it first time but failed to give my POV but i love the last part of your post: Bani not taking revenge on Rano at all!
love every bits of the reasoning...i'm glad you are acknowledging the woman fact...which leads me to ask you the next question: do you think that if Rano tried to talk to Bani now, would she listen?
rooj

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