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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Well compared to politicians NGOs are much cleaner.

The good work done by NGOs is much more obvious than the corruption that is prevalent.
Most of the time where government and it's agencies and the bureaucracy fail it is the NGOs and the private charity establishments succeed.It is an indisputable truth in our country and elsewhere in the world too where the NGOs work seems to function as lifelines when the establishments fail.

Politicians means only unethical behaviour misuse of power corruption fooling failure to deliver good governance making promises at the time of elections and forgetting about them is what comes to peoples' minds.

There may be rotten eggs every where but not as many as we see in politics and governement offices.This may be popular perception in the general public but there is a strong basis for this.


@bold - it is just that corruption in NGOs has not been highlighted much by media. Anybody who has dealt with NGOs know that they are more corrupt than the much maligned government officials. Try google search - the results will show the reality.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - it is just that corruption in NGOs has not been highlighted much by media. Anybody who has dealt with NGOs know that they are more corrupt than the much maligned government officials. Try google search - the results will show the reality.

I know corruption exists in NGOs I have seen that with my own eyes. I have come across both kind of NGOs.Even the corrupt organisation have to show the evidence of the work so some work gets done Even if they gobble up mot of the funds some work at least gets done.
Sorry to say but Govt employees really take cakes and bakeries when it comes to corruption inefficiency and when you walk int govt along with corruption you can also see inefficiency because nobody keeps a tab on them.Irrespective of their performances they get promoted to the next post.The way they treat public like dirt and they don't even remember this is the samae public who pays taxes from which their salries are paid.
If the govt institutions are so efficient we would have been much better off.
I have seen the difference between govt run schools and hospitals and the private schools hospitals hostels run by charity trusts I know where money gets managed better.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Government schools have to admit any child - in Delhi, the Government schools are full of children from weaker sections of society, most of them a first generation learners - teachers find it difficult to control them (I have many friends who teach in government schools) because the student learn all sort of bad things in their slum like environment - we cannot compare this with a public school, where students come from educated homes where parents spend a lot of money in extra tutions etc. Similarly Government hospitals cater to general public - the doctors are so much over burdened and get so little monetary compensation compared to their counterpart working in swanky private hospitals where even middle class people find difficult to go because of hefty fees.
Government employees are maligned because it is a fashion in India to blame everything on Government. Like people break the traffic rules - and if caught make all sort of bahana and then try to bribe the policeman to avoid paying chalan. Who is to blame here - the person breaking the rule or the policeman?

NGOs do work and some of them are very good - but just like politicians, even NGOs are full of corruption and swindling of money. They exploit the very people in whose name they get lots of funds from government, public and even foreign donations.

There can be a lot of arguments - but the fact is corruption is present in NGOs and the lady was imposing her presence and even insisting on giving money - if not by cheque then in the form of purchase - is this not enough to raise doubt about her motives?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thanks for the wu. Looks like vivek will fall in saurabh's trap
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wonder what this dance academy track is now!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

Government schools have to admit any child - in Delhi, the Government schools are full of children from weaker sections of society, most of them a first generation learners - teachers find it difficult to control them (I have many friends who teach in government schools) because the student learn all sort of bad things in their slum like environment - we cannot compare this with a public school, where students come from educated homes where parents spend a lot of money in extra tutions etc. Similarly Government hospitals cater to general public - the doctors are so much over burdened and get so little monetary compensation compared to their counterpart working in swanky private hospitals where even middle class people find difficult to go because of hefty fees.

Government employees are maligned because it is a fashion in India to blame everything on Government. Like people break the traffic rules - and if caught make all sort of bahana and then try to bribe the policeman to avoid paying chalan. Who is to blame here - the person breaking the rule or the policeman?

NGOs do work and some of them are very good - but just like politicians, even NGOs are full of corruption and swindling of money. They exploit the very people in whose name they get lots of funds from government, public and even foreign donations.

There can be a lot of arguments - but the fact is corruption is present in NGOs and the lady was imposing her presence and even insisting on giving money - if not by cheque then in the form of purchase - is this not enough to raise doubt about her motives?

I am talking about charity schools run by charitables trusts.I have studied in one of them which is meant tto cater for the weaker sections of the society.Mostof the girls I have been to school are from lower strata of the society and some of the kids were dirt poor who used to steal lunch boxes I know what I kind of education my school has given and what kind of education the govt school kids got. Teachers were paid by the govt in both schools and the money which my school received was put to much better use simply because the charity organisation and the principal of the school were committed to do good.
I work in a hospital run by a trust and it is not a free hospital it charges a lot but everything goes back to hospital and developing infrastructure.People come to us from all over the country and I know how they have been screwed up in the govt hospitals and corporate hospitals
I have seen enough govt run hospitals and I know how little they do.The only thing they do is crib they don't even do what is within their means because they know they get their salary and promotions irrespective of the fact whether they deliver or not
When did I ever say that there is no swidling of money in NGOs? all I said was that NGOs are better when compared to corrupt politicians and govt employees.
People trying to bribe well if the govt employees and politicians did a lot to earn their reputation for being the most corrupt.
They are not maligned for no reason.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am talking in general - your school and your hospital may be an exception. Schools run by christian charitable trusts are better but they receive grants and foreign aids too, the amount we would never know.
In Delhi - the best hospitals are government hospitals - they do not ask for unnecessary tests/medicines. Treatment even in charitable hospitals here is too costly compared to Government hospitals.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

I am talking in general - your school and your hospital may be an exception. Schools run by christian charitable trusts are better but they receive grants and foreign aids too, the amount we would never know.

In Delhi - the best hospitals are government hospitals - they do not ask for unnecessary tests/medicines. Treatment even in charitable hospitals here is too costly compared to Government hospitals.

Those foreign aids are not given blindly.They come and inspect the work that is being done. No foreign aid agency is a fool that it gives funds blindly.They have to show how the money has been spent and show the evidence of that and of course they see the results the work too.
They either continue with the aid or raise it or stop the aid based on their own observations.
It is conditional for every rupee they give the people have to raise fifty paise or twenty five paise on their own through donations from local poeple if it is a school and our school used to collect rs 2 every year and they didn't have choice who to admit either.Our maid's children and we studied in the same school.😊The children who get into these schools are the same as govt schools.
As for hospitals the funds are not just given like a blank cheque they are given for projects and the work is evaluated regularly.By the way Christian organisations don't get funds as they used to before.Now most of them are run on the funds raised locally.It's misconception that christain organisations are run exclusively on foreign aids which is not true I can vouch for that.
I know for sure govt schools are not inspected neither govt hospitals are inspected nobody ever questions them.Nobody is there to ensure that funds allocated are utilesd properly.
I have seen govt run hostels and shelters too I know in what condition they are in.
My family has long history of association with NGOs and I have seen all kinds of people in these NGOs the good and bad
NGO are scrutinised and evaluated performance wise.So the chances for corruption are much less.
I have seen charity institutions close and the employees running them dealt with in a severe manner when found to be corrupt and if found to be inefficient they are demoted too.Nothing of that sort happens in govt agencies and that's the truth.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Don't want to get into details, but people of India know the reality of foreign aids.
The arguments stretched this long because government school and hospital got mentioned. I have respect for these two government institutions - I have seen doctors on almost 36 hours non-stop duty and teachers doing what they can to control the unruly boys. In fact whenever people in my department complain about workload, I ask them to go see the workload of government doctors.

Different experiences may have led us to believe different ways, but that does not takes away the fact that Anandi seems to be trusting the lady who came out of nowhere and deliberately spent money on her organisation (the article took away any suspense in the track).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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All I said was that this dancer was camouflaged in a much better manner than Shyamal Bhai and Rasika and if the article did not come out it would not have been so difficult to believe this lady.

Yes Anandi was too trusting which she should not have done so early.But probably she trusted this lady because she must have thought the lady's intentions were similar to hers.
I just gave my reasons why politician raised so many doubts in the audience minds as opposed to this lady.

As for doctors they work like donkeys be whereever they are.i have done my 36 hour stints in my time as junior 😛
I do cherish those memories doctorsdon't see it as hard work they see it as a way of their life.😊

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