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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: AreYaar



Thanks, Megha!

LOL yeah aren't we lucky? It's gonna be like back to back three straight days of taandav if tomorrow's precap is anything to go by...Lucky us!😆

Waise I wanted to see him more hurt in the precap...but he seems more DISGUSTED with them than anything...and he's totally right to be that too...Dilsher's tears in the precap fail to move me now...these two deserve to hear this from their only child who's life they ruined in their own hang-ups.

But I have a feeling that forgiveness is coming soon😆...by Friday max😆...everyone will sing the happy family song...tadaa😆

Yes, Mala leaving her son behind with an abusive man is just not justifiable...also her POETRY romance with Tejawat is a priceless visual😆...Ok so Mala had some horrible years with Dilsher...but she lived a good life after that with Tejawat, no? What about Rudra? He was literally screwed over by both parents turn by turn and now they are expecting him to just CHILL...wow.


Anu, we are lucky , getting back to back tandav's, and with that punching bag scenario, its hard to concentrate on anything other than major saab. so i just wana live in the current scenario, next week jo hoga dekhlengey. after a poor last week, this week has been quite good, so yes RR is unpredictable.

ok, so i thought i was the only one who wanted to see a hurt Rudra more than the angry one after he has encountered about Dilsher's abusive nature, i do want to see a solo scene of him where he is hurt and having a tough time to believe in it. But alas, nahi milega shayad, but that does not mean i won't like the burst out, he needed to give Dilsher and Mala a piece of his mind, and the expression of his hurt, anger and disgust which he felt for his parents should be expressed in front of them.
I hope the scene is between the trio only, i dont mind Paro but i want her to stay out when he is blasting off the two, her presence does change the mode of action of Rudra..😆

Firstly, its amazing that Tej is multitalented, a poet, a terrorist, a thakur come king come prince, whow, Mala had hit the jackpot and i must say Dilsher's abuse has not affected her in a negative way, she did find 15 years of luxury and a happy and loving husband, they both sang gazals, did poetry. Mala has come off so insensitive to Rudra's feelings and pain now, now i know why, its because she had the courage to leave her son with an abusive man, then this lady can do anything. so her having zero remorse is justified now, being guilty or repentance is not in her blood, she is more about self pity and self happiness, and she definitely proves that she is not the alpha but the beta version of mohini, thus the two sisters are quite similar.

Lastly, yes Any forgiveness is coming soon. I dont mind a forgiveness from Rudra, because thats him, selfless and unconditional for people he loves, he has always been that much biased, he loved Paro so he never bothered to file a case against her when he was told that she tried to burn dilsher, but in her place if it would be sumer, he would put sumer behind bars. He loves Dilsher and thus did not abandon him after facing abuse and dejection from him, thats what Rudra is. So forgiving his parents was coming. But i would do some damage if he forgives before Dilsher and mala asks for an apology, Paro should stay quiet for time being now, stop pushing Rudra, and Rudra should only forgive his parents after they ask for an apology and ensures him that they will love him beyond their own shortcomings now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22
Anuji, after the episode & these weird character changes I for one am done with the show😭 . I dont have the heart to continue watching it any more. Always had this feeling that at the altar of Mala's Redemption, Dilly Boy is toh going to be sacrificed. Well, the CVs proved me right. But the saddest part is I still feel no sympathy for Mala😲. Sorry, cannot feel for the mother who walks out leaving a child with such an abusive father & returns back after 15yrs expecting all to be hunkydory. In fact she comes out looking even worse than before, if possible . I dont know, maybe it is the actor playing the role of Mala, or the story; but whatever it is I just cannot find it in me to connect with that character. Another character i find difficulty in connecting with, is Paro Baisa. I am totally beginning to love the tez tarrar mirchi Mohini. Her dialogues for the past couple of days deserve this👏. At this moment of time, mohini & Rudra seem to be the only sane characters. I have reached the state where i want to hit my head against a wall after watching these ridiculous & illogical episodes. Practically, the whole week such crap seems to be thrust down our throats & they think DEKHNA HAI TOH DEKHO😡 I for one, dont want to DEKHO it any more. Then usually on fridays we get to see some PARUDLICIOUS episode. I am totally a PaRud shipper but even for the dangling carrot of maybe we'll get to see a beautiful PaRud episode , i cant sit thro the weekly torturous tracks i feel total disconnect with🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Crystal29



Dilsher's change of heart is because of Paro? Yes Paro was a turning point in Rudra/Dilsher's life because that made them come back to the haveli. But it looked to me like Dilsher softened down more because of his age and the need for family. That is how it looked to me. Maybe Paro was instrumental in making him realize family is important? I don't know. The writers were never clear on this...Dilsher was pretty much a rude drunkard till the point when he came back to the haveli...he all but spent two days with Paro and instantly fell in love with her and started singing her praises and asking her to marry Rudra...I would also like to believe the age having mellowed him theory but alas the writers are too busy painting him a total psycho who just had an overnight change of heart cuz of Paro's magical abilities.



Paro's arguments -

I don't agree with her first part. Like Shalini posted, Rudra was not all sweet tongued ever! He even called Paro characterless once. He does do extreme stuff in anger. Yes he did take a slap for Paro from Mohini even though he hated Paro then. But I bet he would do the same today - If Mohini tries to slap Mala, he will be there for this mother. That is how he has always been. Then why this whole he Rudra I fell in love with was not like this argument? I felt he was too soft on Mala. He actually was stating what is reality for him. Yes he added that sarcasm there. And he got slapped for that. 😕 And then he gets scolded by his wife for that too. As if he was the best behaved boy in the neighborhood when she fell in love with him. He has changed for the better now. Rudra's change of heart - yes Paro is the reason for that. If it had been the old Rudra, he would have thrown Mala out of the house by now. Arey everyone is saying this but am I the only one who heard it differently?😕...Didn't Paro say that his views about women weren't right but even then he respected them? And I do agree with that...yes Rudra questioned Paro's character at one point, hated her etc. etc...but even then he watched out for her...that is the point that Paro was trying to make I think...that even at his worst, he had the ability to watch out for a woman's respect.

Yes, the old Rudra would have thrown Mala out in a heartbeat but that is because this is way too personal...for a stranger, Rudra would have probably given more leeway even if he was in his "jallaad" mode...Paro was telling him to give Mala respect as a woman despite how the facts seem stacked up against her cuz even Paro would have been viewed cheaply had anyone just looked at the facts without knowing the whole story...but obviously it's very tough for Rudra to be objective on this front cuz the wounds he's gotten from Mala run too deep.




Comparing her situation with Mala's was okay. The context and premise is not the same. But it was like putting it all in perspective. Something like a coin can have two sides. I liked that. It was good and the way Rudra instantly corrected her and threatened her to never put herself down like that was awesome. Yes it was a bit of a stretch when it comes to drawing a parallel but still a good argument...she had a point and it got interesting reactions out of Rudra.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Jollypops

Great post Areyaar and Crystal ! It feels like the only one with a predictable behavior pattern is Mohini. Her ridiculing of some lovey dove emotions sometimes feel well deserved. I feel so bad for Rudra - for being left behind with a father who was so bitter. Dilsher broke Mala emotionally and in spirit. Did Mala's need to escape her husband make her so oblivious to the fact that leaving Rudra with his father could cause immense psychological damage to him? Rudra rightly says so in the precap of tomorrow's episode.. neither parent thought about him.

Agreed, Paro likes to take the high road. But I wish she would be a little patient with Rudra and not push him right into the inferno of facing/ thinking about his mother every time. He needs time to digest the fact that Mala is in his line of sight everyday now! Give him some breathing time Paro!




Thanks! And I really like your post here...you've rightly pointed out all the issues with the characters right now...especially Mala and Paro...

@bold: That is the biggest question right now for me too...it's very hard to imagine a mother (no matter how much she had suffered), willing to leave her child back in order to escape a nightmare...

As I said in a previous thread, Rudra has suffered far more than her...he spent far more time with a bitter/abusive Dilsher than she did...and if she suffered so much, one can only imagine the amount of damage it did to a child who didn't even have the strength to fight back/push back against his father for many years probably before he grew into a man...and imagine, this is the longest, ONLY "stable" relationship he shared with anyone in his life...with his father for these 15 long years...up and down through all the drunk/bitter tirades...That Mala never considered this would be happening to her child is just very hard to digest.

Yes, Paro likes to take the high road always...it's the only way she knows...and it's so very easy for her...she does not realize how a person as tormented as Rudra won't find it easy to take that road so quickly.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rithureuben

Awesome post. You can always expect Rudra and Mohini to ask the right questions at the right time. Rudra is just repeating what has been said to him for years. Its Dilsher's words coming out through his mouth. And what is being the sweet couple act when they actually owe support to their son at this point. Really they need Mohini for her acidic retorts than Paro for her sugary words.

So the big bad truth is out. Mala was an abused wife and Dilsher was a failure. Was Rudra is boarding school? Because he should have between at least thirteen when Mala left. Why didn't he notice her scars and sadness? Did he not talk back to his dad? Did her sister's family not notice, they all lived together right. Why didn't her poet lover know of her son? Did she not trust him with that detail? Did she leave her son behind with Dilsher as he was the Father of the year? Why did she wait for a month to come back for him?
Dilsher realised how wrong he was because Paro was sweet and loving towards him? So was Mala mean and uncaring that alcohol was needed to comfort him. Did he know of her affair and hence stopped her from dragging his son out of the house? Was her affair the reason he didn't trust that her success was not through her hard work? Was he nice to his son before Mala left? Did he want him in his life so prevented him from leaving? If he made a big deal of his wife's mistakes and hid his own, to ensure his son's loyalty, why didn't he just give him the love the boy longed for.
I didn't realise grammatical mistake Paro made when she used the wrong tense. I assumed she meant the man she fell in love with as I am not very good in Hindi. It was a nice speech but didn't Paro hate him when he got slapped in stead of her. She hated the man who kept her locked and tied up, who dragged her around like a rag doll. That was a man who lived completely on his on terms who did what he thought was right. He never interfered in things that did not concern him. He never saw her as anything but a female witness he had to protect and win over to help him with his job. She starts to respect him only when she comes to know of Tejawat's treason and starts to love him because she thought her God led her to him and he was his destiny. That's how I understood her journey so far. Still enjoyed the scene for the brilliant dialogues and acting by the leads.
Tomorrow another confrontation and hopefully Rudra gets to talk and not be rebuked for being angry. Because whether they like it or not anger is the only thing his parents have earned from him over the years not his affection or understanding.



Thanks!

@bold: You've asked all the right questions👍🏼 Love the points you've made here...especially the last one regarding his anger, disgust being the only thing Rudra's parents have earned from him.

Re: Paro...Yes, she doesn't see this herself but the fact remains that she pretty much FORCED herself onto Rudra after a point...he viewed her as a witness initially and his actions were in accordance with that...he did not interfere in other lives as you pointed out and was living on his own terms until Paro chose to latch on to him with all the bull-headedness she's capable of and refused to let go...and ultimately he had to give in...but yes I also enjoyed the scene for the confrontation and dialogues...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: sapna.k

Anuji, after the episode & these weird character changes I for one am done with the show😭 . I dont have the heart to continue watching it any more. Always had this feeling that at the altar of Mala's Redemption, Dilly Boy is toh going to be sacrificed. Well, the CVs proved me right. But the saddest part is I still feel no sympathy for Mala😲. Sorry, cannot feel for the mother who walks out leaving a child with such an abusive father & returns back after 15yrs expecting all to be hunkydory. In fact she comes out looking even worse than before, if possible . I dont know, maybe it is the actor playing the role of Mala, or the story; but whatever it is I just cannot find it in me to connect with that character. Another character i find difficulty in connecting with, is Paro Baisa. I am totally beginning to love the tez tarrar mirchi Mohini. Her dialogues for the past couple of days deserve this👏. At this moment of time, mohini & Rudra seem to be the only sane characters. I have reached the state where i want to hit my head against a wall after watching these ridiculous & illogical episodes. Practically, the whole week such crap seems to be thrust down our throats & they think DEKHNA HAI TOH DEKHO😡 I for one, dont want to DEKHO it any more. Then usually on fridays we get to see some PARUDLICIOUS episode. I am totally a PaRud shipper but even for the dangling carrot of maybe we'll get to see a beautiful PaRud episode , i cant sit thro the weekly torturous tracks i feel total disconnect with🤢



LOL I've given up in general storyline expectations wise too but I guess the last two epis have been good vis a vis flow so I haven't minded them so much...but yes this isn't living up to the expectations I had from the Mala track...Mohini and Rudra made for the entertainment for me yesterday otherwise I have no sympathy for either Dilsher or Mala at this point despite the whole sob story being revealed.

You're right that it's hard to fully enjoy the RP scenes when the storyline otherwise makes you feel disconnected but oh well...I guess we all have our days of being fed up😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice analysis on the episode.
Episode was quite power packed with great dialogues and the scenes between characters were also great.
Finally Mala's truth is out and Rudra has heard it all.
The precap looks like it is going to be a good episode as well.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Arey everyone is saying this but am I the only one who heard it differently?😕...Didn't Paro say that his views about women weren't right but even then he respected them? And I do agree with that...yes Rudra questioned Paro's character at one point, hated her etc. etc...but even then he watched out for her...that is the point that Paro was trying to make I think...that even at his worst, he had the ability to watch out for a woman's respect.


Yes, the old Rudra would have thrown Mala out in a heartbeat but that is because this is way too personal...for a stranger, Rudra would have probably given more leeway even if he was in his "jallaad" mode...Paro was telling him to give Mala respect as a woman despite how the facts seem stacked up against her cuz even Paro would have been viewed cheaply had anyone just looked at the facts without knowing the whole story...but obviously it's very tough for Rudra to be objective on this front cuz the wounds he's gotten from Mala run too deep.


Anu, I am also not saying that the old Rudra did not respect women or did not look out for them - even though he hated them. If Paro had argued on this after Rudra has slapped Mala or something equally disrespectful, I would agree. But it is so random that she is saying he was not like this before because he questioned Mala. That is absurd. He did not even say anything to Mala that is so disrespectful in my opinion. Yes it hurt. But everyone who does not know the flashback will think of it this way only. No matter why Mala chose to leave Dilsher, now she is back here. From what I can see, she is happy chatting away with Paro and Maithili, cooking kheer, Revisiting old memories laughing away with Dilsher. etc most of the time. That too in 1-2 days after she came back here. What else can Rudra think?

In fact after Dilsher asked Rudra not to interefere he did not even go out of his way to insult Mala or anything. If anything, he sort of took her side against Mohini during the kheer scene. He just wants to live his life with his wife. Paro is the one who says they will start their life only if he gets the Mala issues sorted out. So he confronted Mala and lost his cool rightfully. Then where does all this you have changed and you are not the person you were argument come into play? He has become worse now?😕 Wah! It was so random. Dialogues were good, but does not fit in.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Crystal29


Anu, I am also not saying that the old Rudra did not respect women or did not look out for them - even though he hated them. If Paro had argued on this after Rudra has slapped Mala or something equally disrespectful, I would agree. But it is so random that she is saying he was not like this before because he questioned Mala. That is absurd. He did not even say anything to Mala that is so disrespectful in my opinion. Yes it hurt. But everyone who does not know the flashback will think of it this way only. No matter why Mala chose to leave Dilsher, now she is back here. From what I can see, she is happy chatting away with Paro and Maithili, cooking kheer, Revisiting old memories laughing away with Dilsher. etc most of the time. That too in 1-2 days after she came back here. What else can Rudra think?

In fact after Dilsher asked Rudra not to interefere he did not even go out of his way to insult Mala or anything. If anything, he sort of took her side against Mohini during the kheer scene. He just wants to live his life with his wife. Paro is the one who says they will start their life only if he gets the Mala issues sorted out. So he confronted Mala and lost his cool rightfully. Then where does all this you have changed and you are not the person you were argument come into play? He has become worse now?😕 Wah! It was so random. Dialogues were good, but does not fit in.



But that is the point...in Paro's eyes, Rudra is unable to seperate Mala having wronged him as a mother from the fact that she is a woman before that and without knowing the whole story, to label her of loose character is unbecoming of him...see this is all PARO'S pov...I also don't think the argument is totally thought through but the dialogues were good and she had some points that were valid.

I think Paro was mainly just hurt as a woman on behalf of Mala...she may say she is being objective but fact of the matter is, that moment for her was about HER mother being insulted, that is why she scolded Rudra over it and tried to make him see it from a different angle...

No one is interested right now in how Rudra is JUSTIFIED in thinking this about Mala considering all he's been told for many years...the fact that Rudra was on the verge of saying that about Mala is what the became the focus...for DRAMA DRAMA DRAMAA😆

Paro only knows how to throw ppl into each other's path...she isn't really prepared to handle the expected volatile reactions to come out of such scenarios😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Chappals for being sooo late 😆😆. What to do life happened😆! One very interesting point on Rudra and his existence with this seemingly unbearable Dilsher. He had the heart and mind to stick around with his father no matter what, because he loved him and still does. He knows the worth of his loved ones but alas if we expect Mala to do any of that, it would be too much to ask😆

I am disappointed with the way they treated this Mala track. It certainly seems a rushed move in the end, just to move on to the next track with some new entries as can be seen from the recent articles floating around 😆

I am yet to watch today's episode and get back on track with RR.

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