Yady, Kuru,Puru -- Acc. to Padma Puran Kuru and Puru were brothers?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yadu, Puru, Kuru ...

  1. Sri Krishna was a Yadava, a descendant of Yadu.
  2. Yadu was the son of Yayati and Devayani, Rishi Sukracharya's daughter. He was a step-brother of Puru, the son of Yayati and Sarmishtha. The descendants of Yadu were the Yadavas and the descendants of Puru were the Pauravas. Sarmishtha was a princess, the daughter of the Danava King Vrishaparva.
  3. Yayati the son of Nahusha who occupied Amaravathi and ruled from Indras throne after Indra slayed Vritra. Nahusha was trained by Vasishtha. Agastya Rishi, who helped Sri Rama, is the one who cursed Nahusha and turned him into a Naga. (This may be a ruling that said - go and live as a Naga among the Nagas. In the ValmikiRamayana, you find characters like Tataki and Kabandha and others who were turned into Rakshasas by curses and Sri Rama turned them back into Yakshas, Gandharvas etc. If you look at curses and boons as rules and grants made by the Rishis and Brahma, which everyone had to follow, a new sense of the stories will emerge. All these accursed people waited for Sri Rama, who heard their stories, redeeemed their curses and allowed them to go back to their people.)
  4. Yayati not only gave his kingdom to Puru but he also banned Yadu to the outlying regions.
  5. As per my analysis, Puru and Kuru were contemporaries and therefore Kuru could not be a descendant of Puru. As per the Padma Purana, Puru and Kuru were brothers. So this is verified.
  6. Puru's son was Dushyantha and Kuru's son was Santanu. Dushyanta and Santanu were cousins.
  7. Dushyanta and Sakuntala (Viswamitras daughter) had a son called Bharata. Santanu and Ganga had a son Devavarata who was later called Bhishma. Bharata and Bhishma were second cousins. Bharatha and Bhishma were contemporaries. This would make Sakuntala's son Bharata, a contemporary of Sri Rama's brother Bharata.
  8. Bhishma was of a grand-father's generation to the Pandavas, Kauravas and Sri Krishna.
  9. Yadu was of a grandfather's generation to Bhishma and therefore of the great-great-grandfather's generation of Sri Krishna.
  10. Yadu was the 6th generation from Sri Krishna. So Yayati was the 7th generation from Sri Krishna.
  11. There is a popular story that Anjaneya (Hanuman) defended Yayati when Sri Rama was about to punish him based on a complaint (order) from Viswamitra. At that time Yayati ruled from Varanasi (Kasi). Yayati may have been 3 or 4 generations senior to Sri Rama. Perhaps a contemporary of Vasishtha.
  12. Sri Krishna's father was Vasudeva and Vasudeva's father was Surasena. Surasena ruled the same place (Mathura) and lived at the same time as Surasena (the son of Satrughna). If they were the same., then the dark Sri Krishna was the great grandson of the dark Sri Rama's brother and both of them were the Avatars (descents - descendants?) of the dark Sri Vishnu.
  13. This gives us Krishna's lineage Yayati, Yadu, Sumitra Devi, Satrughna, SuraSena, Vasudeva, Krishna. Interestingly all we know of Sumitra Devi is that she is the daughter of the King of Kasi. And during the time of Dasaratha and Sri Rama, Yayati was the king of Kasi. I need to see if this analysis is backed by any purana.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Medha, from what I've read, Kuru was a descendant of Puru, and not one of the 5 sons of Yayati. He probably had an older brother who carried on the Puru name, and so his branch of the family was called Kuru.

After Vichitravirya, Dhritarashtra carried on the Kuru name, and so Duryodhan & his brothers were known as the Kauravas. Pandu's sons came up w/ a new fork bearing his name.

In Dr RC Majumdar's 'The Vedic Age', Parikshit & his successors are re-labelled the Purus, since all the other branches of Puru's descendants were wiped out in the Kurukshetra war. Even the term 'Kuru' was no longer used to label them.
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Ok so u mentioned yayati as a son of nahusha(the one whom yudi frees frm d curse). So is this that nahusha who gets married to shiv-parvati's supposed daughter Ashoka sundari (does she actually exist??) cos if Ashoka sundari IS yayati's mother, then won't all their decendents be directly related to shiv parvati?!?!
Sorry fr my extremely stupid doubt😳😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shriya

This has been analyzed, and given the timelines, the 2 Nahushas have gotta be different. The Nahusha who was the father of Yayati was different from Mr Ashokasundari

The Chandravansh lineage initially runs like this:

Chandra & Tara => Budh (This is controversial in & of itself, since Tara was Brihaspati's wife 😆)

Budh & Il => Pururavas (This story is narrated by Rama in the Uttarkand of Ramayan)

Pururavas & Urvashi => Ayush (& other sons) (hence Arjun's refusal to marry Urvashi - she was his ancestress)

Ayush & Indumati => Nahusha

Now, Nahusha's son is Yayati, but the wife that he begat him from was not Ashokasundari. She had a different name, and no mention is made of his other wives.

Given that Rama narrated the story of Budh & Il, and given that Bharat's & Shatrughan's descendants were dethroned by the Druhyus, it's more likely than not that Rama's contemporaries would have been no earlier than Pururavas, and not much later than Druhyu. Nahusha would have become devraj after the Indra killing of Vritra, which would have happened in the Satya yuga.

The Ashokasundari stories are pegged around the Treta Yuga, which was when Ganesh came about. Ashokasundari was supposed to have been much older to Nahusha. But if Nahusha existed during the Indra-Vritra era, no way could that have happened.

Given these complications, a clean conclusion is that there were 2 Nahushas - a good Nahusha (in my avi) whose wife was Ashokasundari, and who killed the asura Hunda, and the good-turned-bad Nahusha, who went after Sachi, became a snake for 2 yugas, captured Bhima and only let him go after Yudisthir agreed to a bhashan exchange on caste.

That's the other thing not believable: why would Mahadev/Parvati encourage the marriage of their daughter w/ someone who'd display lecherous behavior towards the queen of the devas? Or allow her to live unprotected for 2 whole yugas?
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@vrish thanks fr clearing my doubts to a large extent..this nahush business is really confusing n I blame a certain shw on life ok fr confusing me (hope u got my hint😉)
Evn there it has been mentioned that the father of nahush is ayush...thereby confusing me again
This two nahush theory seems more logical...n yaa evn I could nt digest the fact that mahadev n mahadevi could choose such a good fr nothing groom fr AS(if she actually existed)

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